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To: cowboyusa

The Trinity teaching did not appear until the Middle Ages. Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities.


9 posted on 03/19/2024 6:18:59 PM PDT by howlinhound (Tagline in the shop for repairs.)
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To: howlinhound

3 Persons, 1 GOD


10 posted on 03/19/2024 6:26:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: howlinhound

The Binary teaching started MUCH sooner: Let US make man in OUR image.


33 posted on 03/19/2024 9:25:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I am astounded at the degree of your misinformation on Scriptural matters.

howlinhound: The Trinity teaching did not appear until the Middle Ages.

No, this is an untutored supposition that is ignorant of what Job and Moses recorded in the Old Testament, where each of the three manifestations of The Godhead, Jehovah Elohim, The Triune God, are documented many times.

howlinhound: Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities.

Nor is your claim here supported in any way. The Godhead is ONE entity with THREE manifestations. A similar example might be the element mercury, which existed as a solid below minus 38 degrees Centigrade, thus making a mercury-based liquid thermometer useless when this cold. Furthermore, vaporized mercury supports an electrical arc to start a fluorescent lamp. The entity is the substance mercury, and its manifestations are as solid, liquid, and vapor, all of which can coexist and be converted from one of the states of matter to one of the others.

The Pre-Incarnate Messiah Redeeming Savior Jesus, also identified as The Word (John 1:1), speaking to inspire Isaiah's written words, which Godly proclamation proves His Own existence as Trinity is translated thusly:

Isaiah 48:12-19 (AV; bolding and superscripted notes added for emphasis):

12Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am (H)e; I am the firstAlpha, I also am the lastsee Rev. 1:8
13Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. 
14All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The LORD hath loved him: heCyrus, 2 Chr. 36:22-23, Ezr. 1:1-2 will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the ChaldeansBabylonians
15I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called himCyrus : I have brought himIsrael figuratively, and heCyrus shall make hisIsrael way prosperousreturning the temple riches and the people to Jerusalem
16Come yepeople of Israel near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that |it was|began, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent methe Redeemer, the Preincarnate Christ
17Thus saith the LORD, thy RedeemerJesus Messiah, Emmanuel, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORDJehovah thy GodElohim which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. 
18O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea: 
19Thy seed also had been as the sand, and the offspring of thy bowels like the gravel thereof; his name should not have been cut off nor destroyed from before me. 
20Go ye forth of Babylon, flee ye from the Chaldeans, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob. 
Here the Trinity is so obvious in Old Testament times, that the knowledge of God-in-Three-Persons cannot be denied.

Let me suggest that you obtain better counsel, my FRiend, before you make such doctrinally outrageous statements of a mind that knows Him not at all.

80 posted on 03/21/2024 4:03:57 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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