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Of Primates and Percentages: No, Humans Aren’t 99% Chimp Whether we are 99 or 84% similar to chimps genetically, there is clearly more going on than materialists can account for.
breakpoi ^ | 03/13/23 | John Stonestreet and Shane Morris

Posted on 10/01/2023 6:03:56 AM PDT by daniel1212

In a recent discussion on The Discovery Institute’s ID the Future podcast, geologist Casey Luskin explained that the original “98-99%” figure was derived from a single protein-to-protein comparison before the chimp genome was sequenced. Since then, we’ve gained a great deal more precision.

According to Luskin, humans and chimps have about 35 million single base-pair genetic differences and five million insertion-deletion differences. Humans also have 689 unique genes not found in chimps. And while there are different ways of quantifying the differences, almost none of these ways yield the famous “98-99%” number.

For example, in 2018, Queen Mary University of London evolutionary geneticist Richard Buggs performed a one-to-one analysis of human and chimp nucleotides. He reported that “the percentage of nucleotides in the human genome that had one-to-one exact matches in the chimpanzee genome was 84.38%.”

Other methodologies have yielded numbers ranging from the mid-80s to 90s. Why the different results? Well, because as Luskin explains, it is not entirely clear how we should compare human and chimp genomes:

Are you comparing the number of genes or copies of genes that the organism has? Are you comparing one-to-one nucleotide similarities? Are you including just the protein-coding DNA or also the non-coding DNA? Are you looking at certain segments of the genome that aren’t even necessarily places where the sequence matters, like the centromeres … ?

It turns out you’ll get a different answer depending on which method you choose. And there is an even deeper problem, says Luskin:

All of the chimp genomes we have today were effectively humanized. … The human genome was used as a scaffolding during the construction of these chimp genomes, which essentially makes the chimp genomes appear more similar to humans than they truly are.

None of this is new. Back in 2007, a paper in the journal Science admitted that the “1%” statistic was a myth and called for the truism to be retired. Yet 16 years later, this zombie idea shambles on, perpetuated by publications like Smithsonian Magazine, Nature, and the American Museum of Natural History website...

“There’s a vast cognitive and behavioral gulf” between humans and apes:"


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: adameve; apes; atheists; creation; darwin; dna; evolution; genesis; johnstonestreet; primates; shanemorris
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Excerpt of larger article, which includes links. And now we have evolution into gender fluidity.
1 posted on 10/01/2023 6:03:56 AM PDT by daniel1212
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More: Human and Chimp DNA: Is It Really 98% Similar?[i]

One of the great trophies that evolutionists parade to prove human evolution from some common ape ancestor is the assertion that human and chimp DNA are 98 to 99% similar.[ii] People quote this statistic in hundreds of textbooks, blogs, videos, and even scientific journals. Yet any high school student can debunk the “Human and Chimp DNA is 98% similar” mantra that this chapter covers.

Why does this matter? We know that genes determine body features from gender to hair color. If we are genetically related to chimps, some may conclude that humans should behave like animals, with no fear of divine justice. But if we all descended from Adam, not from animals, then common animal behavior such as sexual promiscuity cannot be justified on these grounds.[iii] This has been a primary foundation for the mistreatment of humans worldwide by genocidal political leaders and governments over the past 150 or so years. One highly reputable study showed that the leading cause of death in the 20th century was “Democide”—or “murder by government,” which has claimed well over 260 million lives.[iv] All of the totalitarian murderous tyrannies the world over, despite their different political variations, maintained the same Darwinian evolutionary philosophy that humans are higher animals to be herded and culled in wars, death-camps, abortions, mass starvations, and outright slaughter.[v] Does this issue matter? Well, it’s a matter of life and death. It needs to be refuted if it’s not true.

We should evaluate the major evidences that exposes the 98% myth and supports the current conclusion that the actual similarity is 84.4%, or a difference of 15%, which translates to over 360 million base pairs’ difference.[vi] That is an enormous difference that produces an unbridgeable chasm between humans and chimpanzees. The chimp genome is much longer than the human genome. Humans have forty-six chromosomes, while chimps have forty-eight. According to the latest data, there are 3,096,649,726 base pairs in the human genome and 3,309,577,922 base pairs in the chimpanzee genome. This amounts to a 6.4% difference.[vii] The 98% similarity claim fails on this basis alone.

If human and chimp DNA is nearly identical, why can’t humans interbreed with chimps?[viii] Furthermore, such an apparently minor difference in DNA (only 1%) does not account for the many obvious major differences between humans and chimps.

If humans and chimps are so similar, then why can’t we interchange body parts with chimps? Over 30,000 organ transplants are made every year in the U.S. alone, and currently there are over 120,000 candidates on organ transplant lists—but zero of those transplants will be made using chimp organs.

Table 1. Organ Transplants[ix]

Organ Transplants (2016)
Organs# Currently Waiting% of Transplants Made Using
Human OrgansChimp Organs
All Organs121,520100%0%
Kidney100,623100%0%
Liver14,792100%0%
Pancreas1,048100%0%
Kid./Panc.1,953100%0%
Heart4,167100%0%
Lung1,495100%0%
Heart/Lung47100%0%
Intestine280100%0%

A Basic Overview

The living populations of the chimp kind include four species that can interbreed. From the beginning, they were spirit-less animals created on Day 6 of creation. Later that Day, God made a single man in His own image, and He gave him an everlasting spirit or soul (Genesis 2:7). Then God commanded man to “rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the animals,” including chimps (Genesis 1:26).

If the creation narrative from the Bible is true, we would expect exactly what we see in today’s ape-kinds. First, all varieties of chimps have no concept of eternity. For example, they do not bury their dead nor do they conduct funeral rituals. Secondly, apes use very limited verbal communication—they cannot write articles or even sentences. Thirdly, they do not display spiritual or religious practices as humans do. In other words, they show no capacity for knowing their creator through worship or prayer. This fits the Biblical creation account that God created humans as spiritual beings with an everlasting spirit or soul (Genesis 2:7).

It stands to reason that God, in His desire to create diverse life forms on Earth, would begin with the same building materials, such as DNA, carbohydrates, fats, and protein, when making various animal kinds. Research has revealed that He used similar building blocks for all the various physical life forms that He created. Genetic information in all living creatures is encoded as a sequence of principally 4 nucleotides (guanine, adenine, thymine, and cytosine, shown by the letters G, A, T, and C). We also see this principle in nature—such as many plants and animals sharing Fibonacci or similar spirals with clear algorithms and sequences as building patterns.

Much more: https://genesisapologetics.com/faqs/human-and-chimp-dna-is-it-really-98-similar/, by the grace of God.

2 posted on 10/01/2023 6:11:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; ...

See above


3 posted on 10/01/2023 6:11:27 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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IDK. I don’t see much difference between chimps and Leftists. (Apologies to the chimps)...


4 posted on 10/01/2023 6:24:14 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: daniel1212
It might not make sense to say that all humans aren't 98-99% similar to chimps.

Some humans may be...like Biden, for example. He even looks like a chimp.

I'm not arguing that he evolved from chimps. I just think there might a chimp in the Biden family tree. I'm pretty sure that Hunter would mate with a female chimp if she would wear a bikini and smoke crack.

5 posted on 10/01/2023 6:24:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: daniel1212

I’d rather cue The Monolith.


6 posted on 10/01/2023 6:25:37 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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I don’t know. Take a look what’s going on in Chicongo, NYC, Baltimore, and DC.


7 posted on 10/01/2023 6:37:19 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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And LA, Seattle, Houston, Philly, ad nauseum.


8 posted on 10/01/2023 6:45:25 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: daniel1212
Humans can use language to communicate complex ideas and concepts.

Humans can reason abstractly about things that are not present in the physical world.

Humans have a sense of morality and can distinguish between right and wrong.

Animals do not have these abilities.

Premise 1: Materialists believe that the human mind is nothing more than a product of the physical brain.
Premise 2: The human mind has unique and complex cognitive abilities, such as language, abstract reasoning, and a sense of morality.
Premise 3: Animals do not have these abilities.
Premise 4: The unique and complex cognitive abilities of humans cannot be explained by materialism alone.
Conclusion: Materialism is an inadequate explanation of the human mind.

Premise 1: Humans are different from animals in kind, not just in degree.
Premise 2: Materialism cannot account for the qualitative differences between humans and animals..
Premise 3: For example, humans have the ability to reason abstractly, to create art and music, and to experience moral emotions..
Premise 4: Animals do not have these abilities..
Conclusion: Materialism is an inadequate explanation of the human mind..

9 posted on 10/01/2023 6:48:02 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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To: daniel1212

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-does-being-99-percent-chimp-mean-180955645/
[As Emily Elert explains in the Minute Earth video above, it’s hard to know what 99 percent similarity really means, especially when you take into account that humans also share 50 percent of their DNA with bananas and 80 percent with dogs.]


10 posted on 10/01/2023 6:52:08 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: daniel1212
It stands to reason that God, in His desire to create diverse life forms on Earth, would begin with the same building materials, such as DNA, carbohydrates, fats, and protein, when making various animal kinds. Research has revealed that He used similar building blocks for all the various physical life forms that He created. Genetic information in all living creatures is encoded as a sequence of principally 4 nucleotides (guanine, adenine, thymine, and cytosine, shown by the letters G, A, T, and C). We also see this principle in nature—such as many plants and animals sharing Fibonacci or similar spirals with clear algorithms and sequences as building patterns.

Since we all live in basically the same environment, of course there would need to be those kinds of similarities.

Additionally, since much of the plant and animal life is also food for us, in order for our bodies to assimilate it, it would have to have components our bodies could use. If they were radically different, they would not be able to nourish us, and might even be deadly.

11 posted on 10/01/2023 6:58:10 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: DownInFlames

I’ve heard that the people in MD refer to Baltimore as “Baltimordor”.


12 posted on 10/01/2023 6:59:16 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Chimps are quadrupeds. Humans are bipedal. That alone is a major difference.

Chimps do not have the bone structure to permit speech. Another major difference.

The genetic similarity argument/lie is based on a small piece of DNA extrapolated to cover the entire DNA maps.

13 posted on 10/01/2023 7:11:06 AM PDT by fso301
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Humans don’t throw steel chairs at their teachers. That’s a chimpanzee thing.


14 posted on 10/01/2023 7:12:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (And the invasion of America continues while the RAT Party worries about the Ukraine.)
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I’m in GA and I sometimes refer to it as Baltimordor.

With many good reasons.

https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/?range=2023


15 posted on 10/01/2023 7:15:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I mean, if we're 98% chimps, then by the same token, we are 70% slugs.

And I have observed the latters' slime trails they leave all over the media, bureaucratic offices, and political seats.

16 posted on 10/01/2023 7:20:19 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Is this another article about John Fetterman?


17 posted on 10/01/2023 7:22:01 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Biden would give Jesse James the train schedule for his 10%.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

no but humans do fling their poo at jailers


18 posted on 10/01/2023 7:24:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
"I’d rather cue The Monolith."

Ape Monolith Scroll

19 posted on 10/01/2023 7:51:10 AM PDT by guest7
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To: daniel1212

Chimps and people are made of 100% the same atoms.


20 posted on 10/01/2023 7:52:32 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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