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Are Christmas Trees in the Bible? You Betcha!
Self | Mordechai ben Avram

Posted on 11/30/2022 11:20:01 PM PST by Tzaphon

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To: vladimir998
Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

I knew you were going to use this mistranslation to prove your point. Here is the correct translation.

Act 12:4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

The Strongs is G3957 and that is "pascha" or Passover in Greek. There are several mistanslations in the KJV of the Bible. Also, the Masoretic text dates around 7th to 9th century AD. Acts was written much earlier than about 110 AD. in Greek. The Masoretics made many mistranslations. Another is when they translated "Sabbaton" as the "First day of the week" which would mean "Sunday" instead of the first Sabbath after First Fruits. This is relied upon for the people that don't realize that they are relying on this verse to try to justify the pope changing the sabbath to Sunday. If you look at other translations almost all translate this verse to say Sabbaton instead of the first day of the week. If "Day" is in italics in your Bible that denotes a word that was added to the verse and not the actual verse. There is no "Easter" in Scripture so the KJV just changed Passover to Easter. Maybe by the time King James ordered the translation in the 1600's it was politically incorrect to mention Passover after the popes had cancelled it, so I don't know why they did it. Gen 4:26 says that "Men began to call upon the name of the Lord" when Enosh was born. It actually says "Men began to defile the name of the Lord" When Enosh was born. Quite the difference. The Roman Catholic church was trying to sell the Nephilim as Godly people that came from children of Seth. All other translations say they profaned God's name and were evil. When reading the Old Testament, the Septuagint is the gold standard. Most of the OT quotes from Jesus are taken from the Septuagint. Relying on the KJV is one of the biggest problems in the church today for misunderstanding. You also have to always take into consideration most of the error in the church after the RCC took over the church in 326 AD was from antisemitism. They outlawed the Feast Days and put in Easter and Christmas and changed the Sabbath to Sunday to placate the pagans ordered to become Christians. When Rome pretty much ruled the world, they got what they wanted or fed you to the lions. The pope today will say he still controls all Christians because they still worship on Sunday. So a Lutheran that broke away from the RCC thinks they are independent now but still meet on Sunday. The pope still claims them.

The KJV is OK for a few things, but They are way off on too many things to make them your go to Bible. It is at least 800 years after most of the Bible was written in the early Hebrew and Greek. Easter and Passover almost never occur on the same calendar day and Christmas and Tabernacles aren't even close.

Amo 3:3 Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?

If you can't agree when God said He would meet with His people, will you not miss His appointment with you?

Jer 18:15 "Because My people have forgotten Me, They have burned incense to worthless idols. And they have caused themselves to stumble in their ways, From the ancient paths, To walk in pathways and not on a highway,

The "ancient paths" means the Torah. Jesus kept Passover, not Easter, and Tabernacles, not Christmas. Nothing Biblical happens on Christmas and Easter.

21 posted on 12/02/2022 9:33:36 AM PST by chuckles
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And I knew you would cop out by focusing on the idea that it is a mistranslation rather than simply admitting what all orthodox Christians know - the Resurrection (which is Easter) is in the Bible.

“Nothing Biblical happens on Christmas and Easter.”

Except that on those days Christ’s birth and His Resurrection are celebrated - and that’s entirely Biblical. The shepherds and wise men celebrated His birth. The early Christians celebrated His resurrection.

Hislop is slop.


22 posted on 12/02/2022 11:44:58 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: GMThrust

Was Christ born?

Or was only “part” of Him born?

I did explain how you were wrong: Women give birth to persons, not parts. It’s just that simple.


23 posted on 12/02/2022 11:46:29 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

This is why there is so much division in Christianity. I used the word “part” then corrected it and said he was bodily born-human. You are focusing in on the word “part”. You are playing semantics and not dealing with the concept.
I believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. If I’m not saying it your way, then you are not listening, and you only want to pontificate. So be it. We are saying the same thing, except I’ve now said it three times.


24 posted on 12/02/2022 2:05:21 PM PST by GMThrust
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To: Jonty30; chuckles; vladimir998; GMThrust; Campion; GingisK; BipolarBob
First, I wish all of you and yours a healthy happy year… We've all seen Charlie Brown's Christmas, it's a cute show. My favorite part is when Charlie Brown comes to his wits end and calls out, 'Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about' then Linus gives his explanation from the book of Luke. But there's a point where you should slam on your brakes and say, hey wait, shepherds don't watch over their flocks by night in winter! This is a fact. Yeshua was born during Sukkot (Tabernacles). It's late summer, shepherds are watching over their flocks at night and it's a pilgramage festival, three time a year all your men shall go up to Jerusalem. That's why there was no room at the inn.

The spirit of Christmas is Baphomet, ask the Bidens...

Jill Biden puts Baphomet Demon in White House as Christmas Decoration - Dr. Taylor Marshall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbdDi1Hh9Fg

Well now I know why this country is going to Hell…

25 posted on 12/26/2022 6:29:32 PM PST by Tzaphon (EL CHIIM)
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To: Tzaphon

Thanks for pinging me.


26 posted on 12/26/2022 7:00:33 PM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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To: vladimir998
"Easter" is NOT in the Bible. Acts 12:4 is a mis-print only in the KJV of the Bible. The Greek word is for Passover.

Eze 8:16 speaks of a Sunrise service and how God called it an abomination.

Eze 8:16 So He brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house; and there, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of the Lord and their faces toward the east, and they were worshiping the sun toward the east.

Before that he speaks of women weeping over Tammuz on the winter's solstice(Dec. 25th) as an abomination.(Eze 8:14)

The days God directed us to observe are found in Leviticus 23.God will manifest Himself in earthly events on the days He set aside in Leviticus 23. Jesus was born on or around Nisan 1 and died on Nisan 15(Passover) and rose on First Fruits. Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century. On Pentecost the church was born. Trumpets will bring about the Rapture. Judgement Day will come 7 years later on Atonement, and The Millennial reign will start on Tabernacles after that. To pick random days in the calendar is just not like God to do. He has announced what days He will do things in Scripture.

To not understand the history of Christmas, Easter, the Yule log, and other fables is just denial of truth. A yule log is a baby thrown in a fire to Baal. Jer 10:4 is a discussion of idols in Israel like Christmas trees.

27 posted on 12/27/2022 11:43:01 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Tzaphon
No.

Neither are singing angels, candles or turkeys.

28 posted on 12/27/2022 11:49:29 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: vladimir998
...."Jesus was born” not “The human Jesus was born”.

The baby Jesus had the Spirit of God inserted into a human body. Several times in Scripture we can se that Jesus appeared before the Human baby appeared. Melchizedek is only one example. The Angel that appeared to Joshua was another. Anytime you see "Angel: with a capital "A" it's a theophony of Jesus in His celestial body.

Humans are clay containers that holds a soul and a spirit. Jesus had the Holy Spirit in His body. He was fully God and fully man because a horse couldn't pay the sin price for man. A man had to die to cover the sin price for Adam. You might hear that we aren't under the Law anymore, but Matt 5 says that we are, in red writing. The price Jesus paid for us on the cross was the Law of sin and death. If we sin we won't die if we trust that Jesus died for that sin, but the Commandments are still in effect. Not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law. Putting up a Christmas tree is against the Law of worshiping idols. For me, acting like a tree has any significance to the life of Christ is no different than choosing to observe Sunday instead of what God said several times about the Sabbath in Exodus and Leviticus. You aren't automatically going to hell if you have a Christmas tree, but why go against what Scripture plainly says and dare God to say anything about it. It's no different than saying "I know the day to worship God is on the Sabbath, but I choose to go on Sunday and dare Him to say something about it." Scripture says that if you sin on purpose, you will suffer many stripes if you know what you are doing. Its no different that a believer saying that Homosexual love is as good as approved love so what's the problem? God has specifically disapproved homosexuality so you are shaking your fist in God's face and screaming at Him like a petulant child. Jer 10:4 specifically says a tree in the house with gold and silver is a pagan practice and should be avoided. Why would a Christian say "I don't care, I'm going to have a Tree and there's nothing God can do about it". It's just open sin and you are laying another stripe on the back of Jesus and pounding the nails in deeper.

29 posted on 12/27/2022 12:19:26 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Your posts are a litany of error and misunderstandings. Let me give you some examples from just one of your posts:

1) “”Easter” is NOT in the Bible.”

The resurrection is - and that is what Easter signifies to Christians.

2) “ Acts 12:4 is a mis-print only in the KJV of the Bible.”

It’s not a misprint. It was a very deliberate editorial choice by the translators of the KJV. They knew Easter was synonymous with Passover (i.e. Pascha) in non-Germanic language speaking countries for Christians meaning the Resurrection.

3) “Eze 8:16 speaks of a Sunrise service and how God called it an abomination.”

It is logically impossible for the celebration of the Resurrection of Lord to be an abomination so your comment is meaningless here.

4) “Before that he speaks of women weeping over Tammuz on the winter’s solstice(Dec. 25th) as an abomination.(Eze 8:14)”

Winter solstice is on December 21st not the 25th. You poor deluded, barely educated man.

5) “The days God directed us to observe are found in Leviticus 23.”

Those days no longer need to be honored as Jews honored them because they are part of the old law and Jesus fulfilled that law.

6) “Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century.”

No. The Feast of the Resurrection was celebrated from the time of the Apostles. The word Easter was not used by anyone for that feast in the 4th century because there really were no Germanic Christians yet. They were only converted in later centuries.

7) “To not understand the history of Christmas, Easter, the Yule log, and other fables is just denial of truth.”

Clearly, between the two of us, I am the only one who DOES understand these things.

8) “ A yule log is a baby thrown in a fire to Baal.”

No. Yule is a winter time festival of events celebrated by pagan Germanic peoples in Europe. And the Yule log was a purely European thing.

Baal was a pagan god in the Levant. That means the Middle East - in other words no where near Europe and the Germanic peoples. Ironically, it would be Christianity and its stories from the Old Testament that would have been the very first instance of Germanic peoples learning anything about the ancient pagan god Baal - and that was only as one to be detested and condemned.

9) “Jer 10:4 is a discussion of idols in Israel like Christmas trees.”

No it isn’t. For one thing it doesn’t mention Christmas trees. Also, since literally no one has ever worshipped a Christmas tree in recorded history, they aren’t idols to anyone.

There are at least 9 documentable errors in that one post of yours. Knowing that you can’t go more than a few words without making an error, is there really a point to this other than to cause yourself embarrassment?


30 posted on 12/27/2022 3:10:33 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Easter and Passover are not on the same day,....ever! Acts 12:4 says "Passover" in other translations other than KJV.

If God directs you to observe Passover and you decide to observe another day, are you just giving the finger to God? You can signify what you want,but God has directed observance of another day. Same with Dec 25th. Nothing of Biblical importance happens in December.

Back to the KJV of the Bible. Genesis 4:26 says "Men began to call upon the name of the Lord after Enosh was born. What it actually says is "Men began to defile or profane the name of the Lord" at that time.

You say the Lev 23 days don't need to be fulfilled because Jesus fulfilled them. IS He finished? The next fulfillment will be the Rapture of the church on Trumpets.The last fulfillment was the birth of the church on Pentecost. The Last Trump can only happen on Trumpets. Jews say the day no one knows the day or the hour is Trumpets because it is the only day with a new moon and can last for 2 days.

I don't want to spend all my time writing chapters of the Bible explaining what they mean to someone that has been brought up in American Gentile church. There is too much error.If you were interested, the info is all there if you were teachable. Just look up the history of Easter and Christmas and it's all there. The RCC forced everyone to drop Lev 23 and follow the pagan days to make Christianity more accepted by Gentile pagans. That includes Sunday worship, the day they already worshiped the sun god.

If you look at it like I do, you will see that you are following a man and not God. The pope changed the calendar and days and went against the Word of God. Is Jesus the "Word of God?"

Everything I said was true and provable in Scripture. What you are following are wives tales made up over the centuries even if you want to convince yourself that you are worshiping God.

When Israel became Israel and Judah, the northern Kingdom began to worship bulls and the king made priests from non Levites and declared a feast on the 8th month and 15th day, instead of the 7th month and 15th day like Scripture demands. That is what has happened today with the church. God blesses certain days and tells you what they are in Scripture. You can't just make up a day and insist that you are worshiping God on a made up day.

I'm tired of typing, but I'll give you one more. Look up in Scripture how many times God tells you to "watch!" What are we to watch for? When are we to watch? Google "The King is in the field". In Matt 25, who were the wise virgins and who were foolish virgins? The foolish weren't ready to go. The month of Elul is when you pray, repent, and fast, right before Trumpets, when the King is in the field. Gentile Christians know nothing about this time and believe Jesus could come for His Bride on some random day no one knows.

I'm not going to write a book to answer your ramblings I've heard all my life. It's time to get off the milk and onto the meat.

31 posted on 12/28/2022 1:22:33 AM PST by chuckles
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“Easter and Passover are not on the same day,....ever!”

That’s literally your first sentence - and you’re wrong:

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/2022/04/13/passover-and-easter-overlap-2022-they-have-more-common-than-you-think/7303486001/

It should give you pause that you are wrong this often.

But instead of realizing just how many mistakes you make - mistakes you have no answer for - you wrote: “I’m not going to write a book to answer your ramblings I’ve heard all my life. It’s time to get off the milk and onto the meat.”

You are the one who is clearly wrong. You keep proving it.


32 posted on 12/28/2022 6:21:33 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: chuckles
The Greek word is for Passover.

The word used for "Easter" in Greek and all of the Romance languages is derived from the Hebrew word for Passover.

Only English, Norwegian, Dutch, and some western German dialects use "Easter" or a word similar to it.

Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century.

Ridiculous. If the feast were newly introduced in the 4th century, why was there controversy about when to celebrate it starting in the 2nd century?

By the way, the feast that Nicaea legislated about was called "Pascha". Look it up. They spoke Greek, not English.

33 posted on 12/29/2022 11:46:03 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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