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Are Christmas Trees in the Bible? You Betcha!
Self | Mordechai ben Avram

Posted on 11/30/2022 11:20:01 PM PST by Tzaphon

Are Christmas Trees in the Bible? You Betcha!

The Hebrew Sages have stated that, 'Everything that ever was and ever will be is in the Torah' (Pirqe'i Avot 5:22) they are correct. They also relate that the Prophets and Writings expand the Torah. Most people don't realize that the Writings have never stopped, have never stopped!

Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened…
Yeshua

Notice, there are no limits on this statement.

Genesis 35:1 Then ELoHIM said to Jacob, “Arise, go up to BethEL and dwell there; and make an altar there to EL, who appeared to you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother.

2 And Jacob said to his household and to all who were with him, “Put away the foreign ELoHY that are among you, purify yourselves, and change your garments. 3 Then let us arise and go up to BethEL and I will make an altar there to EL, who answered me in the day of my distress and has been with me in the way which I have gone.” 4 So they gave Jacob all the foreign ELoHY which were in their hands, and the earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the terebinth tree which was by Shechem.

5 And they journeyed, and the terror of ELoHIM was upon the cities that were all around them, and they did not pursue the sons of Jacob.

6 So Jacob came to Luz (that is, BethEL), which is in the land of Canaan, he and all the people who were with him. 7 And he built an altar there and called the place EL BethEL, because there ELoHIM appeared to him when he fled from the face of his brother.

Not clear enough? This will clarify the subject…

Jeremiah 10:1 Hear the word which YHVH speaks to you, O house of Israel.

2 Thus says YHVH:

“Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.

4 They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple.

5 They are upright, like a palm tree, And they cannot speak; They must be carried, Because they cannot go by themselves. Do not be afraid of them, For they cannot do evil, Nor can they do any good.” 6 Inasmuch as there is none like You, YHVH (You are great, and Your name is great in might),

7 Who would not fear You, O King of the nations? For this is Your rightful due. For among all the wise men of the nations, And in all their kingdoms, There is none like You. 8 But they are altogether dull-hearted and foolish; A wooden idol is a worthless doctrine.

9 Silver is beaten into plates; It is brought from Tarshish, And gold from Uphaz, The work of the craftsman And of the hands of the metalsmith; Blue and purple are their clothing; They are all the work of skillful men. 10 But YHVH is the true ELoHIM; He is the living ELoHIM and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation.

11 Thus you shall say to them: “The ELoHY that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens.” 12 He has made the earth by His power, He has established the world by His wisdom, And has stretched out the heavens at His discretion.

13 When He utters His voice, There is a multitude of waters in the heavens: “And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, He brings the wind out of His treasuries.” 14 Everyone is dull-hearted, without knowledge; Every metalsmith is put to shame by an image; For his molded image is falsehood, And there is no breath in them.

15 They are futile, a work of errors; In the time of their punishment they shall perish. 16 The Portion of Jacob is not like them, For He is the Maker of all things, And Israel is the tribe of His inheritance; YHVH TZaVOT is His name.

17 Gather up your wares from the land, O inhabitant of the fortress! 18 For thus says YHVH:

“Behold, I will throw out at this time The inhabitants of the land, And will distress them, That they may find it so.”

19 Woe is me for my hurt! My wound is severe. But I say, “Truly this is an infirmity, And I must bear it.” 20 My tent is plundered, And all my cords are broken; My children have gone from me, And they are no more. There is no one to pitch my tent anymore, Or set up my curtains.

21 For the shepherds have become dull-hearted, And have not sought YHVH; Therefore they shall not prosper, And all their flocks shall be scattered. 22 Behold, the noise of the report has come, And a great commotion out of the north country, To make the cities of Judah desolate, a den of jackals.

23 O YHVH, I know the way of man is not in himself; It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps. 24 O YHVH, correct me, but with justice; Not in Your anger, lest You bring me to nothing.

25 Pour out Your fury on the Gentiles, who do not know You, And on the families who do not call on Your name; For they have eaten up Jacob, Devoured him and consumed him, And made his dwelling place desolate.

Cause and Effect

There is an interesting ritual among Orthodox Jewish families. When a family member converts to Christianity they hold a funeral for them. Well this is related in the parable of the Prodigal Son. Read it like this, the older brother is Judaism, the younger son Christianity. And count how many times He mentions “The Father”.

Luke 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.

15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.

15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 15:18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, 15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

15:20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. 15:21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: 15:23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

15:25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. 15:26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.

15:27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. 15:28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.

15:29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: 15:30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

15:31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. 15:32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

Another interesting fact is that, nowhere in the Scriptures does it instruct one to worship the Messiah, nowhere!

Yeshua instructs us to worship The Father and ELoHIM.

See: John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of ELoHIM.

19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Yeshua: worship ELoHIM: for the testimony of Yeshua is the spirit of prophecy.

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וָאֶפּׂל לְרַגְלָיו לְהִשְׁתַּחֲוֹת לוֹ וַיּׂאמֶר אֵלַי רְאֵה אַל־תַּעֲשֶׂה־זּׂאת עֶבֶד אֲנִי כָּמוֹךָ וְחָבֵר לְּךָ וּלְאַחֶיךָ אֲשֶׁר עֵדוּת יֵשׁוּעַ בְּפִיהֶם הִשְׁתַּחֲוֵה לֵאלׂהִים כִּי עֵדוּת יֵשׁוּעַ הִיא רוּחַ הַנְּבוּאָה׃

Jeremiah16:19 19 O YHVH, my strength, and my stronghold, and my refuge in the day of affliction, unto thee shall the nations (gentiles) come from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Our fathers have inherited nought but lies, even vanity and things wherein there is no profit.

16:20 Shall a man make ELoHIM unto himself, and they are no ELoHIM?

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הֲיַעֲשֶׂה־לּוֹ אָדָם אֱלֹהִים וְהֵמָּה לֹא אֱלֹהִים׃

16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is YHVH.

My wife and I visited David Wilkerson's church and (twas the season) they had a very large Christmas tree on their stage. Sure enough some children approached the tree (and I pointed out) got on their knees (in front of this wooden idol) and retrieved their trinkets from under the tree.

Jeremiah 10:8 But they are altogether dull-hearted and foolish; A wooden idol is a worthless doctrine.

This is what the church has done, they left Beit-EL long ago, went back to the tree and retrieved their trinkets from under the tree.

Jeremiah 10:16 The Portion of Jacob is not like them, For He is the Maker of all things, And Israel is the tribe of His inheritance; YHVH TZaVOT is His name.

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Yeshua sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

That is quite clear…

Jacob 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one ELoHIM.

You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!

20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?

22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed YHVH, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of YHVH.

24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Faith and Works

For Example

John 6:48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

52 The Jews therefore quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this Man give us His flesh to eat?”

53 Then Yeshua said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”

59 These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.

The Jews therefore quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this Man give us His flesh to eat?”

Well now just back up a few chapters into the book of Luke and you'll find that...

Luke 22:14 When the hour had come, He sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him. 15 Then He said to them, “With desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;

16 for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of ELoHIM.”

17 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide among yourselves; 18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of ELoHIM comes.”

19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

21 But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!”

Pesach / Passover links

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The mark in the forehead can be found in the Quran, how about that...

Quran
Fat-h or Victory

29. Muhammad is the Apostle Of God; and those who are With him are strong Against Unbelievers, (but) Compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow And prostrate themselves (In prayer), seeking Grace From God and (His) Good Pleasure.

On their faces are their Marks, (being) the traces Of their prostration. This is their similitude In the Taurat; And their similitude In the Gospel is: Like a seed which sends Forth its blade, then Makes it strong; it then Becomes thick, and it stands

You get marked in your forehead from bowing to Mecca.

Anyway, many are familiar with the bad mark, how many know about the good mark?

Exodus 13:16 And it shall be for a token upon thine hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand YHVH brought us forth out of Egypt.

Now back up to verse 9 (Exodus 13)

13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that YHVH Torat may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath YHVH brought thee out of Egypt.

They’re called patterns, and they echo throughout the universe…

And when YHVH repeats in the same section (chapter) you might what to pay attention! You get the good mark from observing Pesach / Matzah! As they say in Brooklyn, such a deal!

Isiah 56:9 All you beasts of the field, come to devour, All you beasts in the forest.

10 His watchmen are blind, They are all ignorant; They are all dumb dogs, They cannot bark; Sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yes, they are greedy dogs Which never have enough. And they are shepherds Who cannot understand; They all look to their own way, Every one for his own dishonest gain, From his own territory.

12 “Come,” one says, “I will bring wine, And we will fill ourselves with intoxicating drink; Tomorrow will be as today, And much more abundant.”

MbA

The bottom line is, leave your idols under the tree and ascend to Beit-EL! See you there, or not…


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To: vladimir998
Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

I knew you were going to use this mistranslation to prove your point. Here is the correct translation.

Act 12:4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

The Strongs is G3957 and that is "pascha" or Passover in Greek. There are several mistanslations in the KJV of the Bible. Also, the Masoretic text dates around 7th to 9th century AD. Acts was written much earlier than about 110 AD. in Greek. The Masoretics made many mistranslations. Another is when they translated "Sabbaton" as the "First day of the week" which would mean "Sunday" instead of the first Sabbath after First Fruits. This is relied upon for the people that don't realize that they are relying on this verse to try to justify the pope changing the sabbath to Sunday. If you look at other translations almost all translate this verse to say Sabbaton instead of the first day of the week. If "Day" is in italics in your Bible that denotes a word that was added to the verse and not the actual verse. There is no "Easter" in Scripture so the KJV just changed Passover to Easter. Maybe by the time King James ordered the translation in the 1600's it was politically incorrect to mention Passover after the popes had cancelled it, so I don't know why they did it. Gen 4:26 says that "Men began to call upon the name of the Lord" when Enosh was born. It actually says "Men began to defile the name of the Lord" When Enosh was born. Quite the difference. The Roman Catholic church was trying to sell the Nephilim as Godly people that came from children of Seth. All other translations say they profaned God's name and were evil. When reading the Old Testament, the Septuagint is the gold standard. Most of the OT quotes from Jesus are taken from the Septuagint. Relying on the KJV is one of the biggest problems in the church today for misunderstanding. You also have to always take into consideration most of the error in the church after the RCC took over the church in 326 AD was from antisemitism. They outlawed the Feast Days and put in Easter and Christmas and changed the Sabbath to Sunday to placate the pagans ordered to become Christians. When Rome pretty much ruled the world, they got what they wanted or fed you to the lions. The pope today will say he still controls all Christians because they still worship on Sunday. So a Lutheran that broke away from the RCC thinks they are independent now but still meet on Sunday. The pope still claims them.

The KJV is OK for a few things, but They are way off on too many things to make them your go to Bible. It is at least 800 years after most of the Bible was written in the early Hebrew and Greek. Easter and Passover almost never occur on the same calendar day and Christmas and Tabernacles aren't even close.

Amo 3:3 Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?

If you can't agree when God said He would meet with His people, will you not miss His appointment with you?

Jer 18:15 "Because My people have forgotten Me, They have burned incense to worthless idols. And they have caused themselves to stumble in their ways, From the ancient paths, To walk in pathways and not on a highway,

The "ancient paths" means the Torah. Jesus kept Passover, not Easter, and Tabernacles, not Christmas. Nothing Biblical happens on Christmas and Easter.

21 posted on 12/02/2022 9:33:36 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

And I knew you would cop out by focusing on the idea that it is a mistranslation rather than simply admitting what all orthodox Christians know - the Resurrection (which is Easter) is in the Bible.

“Nothing Biblical happens on Christmas and Easter.”

Except that on those days Christ’s birth and His Resurrection are celebrated - and that’s entirely Biblical. The shepherds and wise men celebrated His birth. The early Christians celebrated His resurrection.

Hislop is slop.


22 posted on 12/02/2022 11:44:58 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: GMThrust

Was Christ born?

Or was only “part” of Him born?

I did explain how you were wrong: Women give birth to persons, not parts. It’s just that simple.


23 posted on 12/02/2022 11:46:29 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

This is why there is so much division in Christianity. I used the word “part” then corrected it and said he was bodily born-human. You are focusing in on the word “part”. You are playing semantics and not dealing with the concept.
I believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. If I’m not saying it your way, then you are not listening, and you only want to pontificate. So be it. We are saying the same thing, except I’ve now said it three times.


24 posted on 12/02/2022 2:05:21 PM PST by GMThrust
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To: Jonty30; chuckles; vladimir998; GMThrust; Campion; GingisK; BipolarBob
First, I wish all of you and yours a healthy happy year… We've all seen Charlie Brown's Christmas, it's a cute show. My favorite part is when Charlie Brown comes to his wits end and calls out, 'Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about' then Linus gives his explanation from the book of Luke. But there's a point where you should slam on your brakes and say, hey wait, shepherds don't watch over their flocks by night in winter! This is a fact. Yeshua was born during Sukkot (Tabernacles). It's late summer, shepherds are watching over their flocks at night and it's a pilgramage festival, three time a year all your men shall go up to Jerusalem. That's why there was no room at the inn.

The spirit of Christmas is Baphomet, ask the Bidens...

Jill Biden puts Baphomet Demon in White House as Christmas Decoration - Dr. Taylor Marshall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbdDi1Hh9Fg

Well now I know why this country is going to Hell…

25 posted on 12/26/2022 6:29:32 PM PST by Tzaphon (EL CHIIM)
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To: Tzaphon

Thanks for pinging me.


26 posted on 12/26/2022 7:00:33 PM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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To: vladimir998
"Easter" is NOT in the Bible. Acts 12:4 is a mis-print only in the KJV of the Bible. The Greek word is for Passover.

Eze 8:16 speaks of a Sunrise service and how God called it an abomination.

Eze 8:16 So He brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house; and there, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of the Lord and their faces toward the east, and they were worshiping the sun toward the east.

Before that he speaks of women weeping over Tammuz on the winter's solstice(Dec. 25th) as an abomination.(Eze 8:14)

The days God directed us to observe are found in Leviticus 23.God will manifest Himself in earthly events on the days He set aside in Leviticus 23. Jesus was born on or around Nisan 1 and died on Nisan 15(Passover) and rose on First Fruits. Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century. On Pentecost the church was born. Trumpets will bring about the Rapture. Judgement Day will come 7 years later on Atonement, and The Millennial reign will start on Tabernacles after that. To pick random days in the calendar is just not like God to do. He has announced what days He will do things in Scripture.

To not understand the history of Christmas, Easter, the Yule log, and other fables is just denial of truth. A yule log is a baby thrown in a fire to Baal. Jer 10:4 is a discussion of idols in Israel like Christmas trees.

27 posted on 12/27/2022 11:43:01 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Tzaphon
No.

Neither are singing angels, candles or turkeys.

28 posted on 12/27/2022 11:49:29 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: vladimir998
...."Jesus was born” not “The human Jesus was born”.

The baby Jesus had the Spirit of God inserted into a human body. Several times in Scripture we can se that Jesus appeared before the Human baby appeared. Melchizedek is only one example. The Angel that appeared to Joshua was another. Anytime you see "Angel: with a capital "A" it's a theophony of Jesus in His celestial body.

Humans are clay containers that holds a soul and a spirit. Jesus had the Holy Spirit in His body. He was fully God and fully man because a horse couldn't pay the sin price for man. A man had to die to cover the sin price for Adam. You might hear that we aren't under the Law anymore, but Matt 5 says that we are, in red writing. The price Jesus paid for us on the cross was the Law of sin and death. If we sin we won't die if we trust that Jesus died for that sin, but the Commandments are still in effect. Not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law. Putting up a Christmas tree is against the Law of worshiping idols. For me, acting like a tree has any significance to the life of Christ is no different than choosing to observe Sunday instead of what God said several times about the Sabbath in Exodus and Leviticus. You aren't automatically going to hell if you have a Christmas tree, but why go against what Scripture plainly says and dare God to say anything about it. It's no different than saying "I know the day to worship God is on the Sabbath, but I choose to go on Sunday and dare Him to say something about it." Scripture says that if you sin on purpose, you will suffer many stripes if you know what you are doing. Its no different that a believer saying that Homosexual love is as good as approved love so what's the problem? God has specifically disapproved homosexuality so you are shaking your fist in God's face and screaming at Him like a petulant child. Jer 10:4 specifically says a tree in the house with gold and silver is a pagan practice and should be avoided. Why would a Christian say "I don't care, I'm going to have a Tree and there's nothing God can do about it". It's just open sin and you are laying another stripe on the back of Jesus and pounding the nails in deeper.

29 posted on 12/27/2022 12:19:26 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Your posts are a litany of error and misunderstandings. Let me give you some examples from just one of your posts:

1) “”Easter” is NOT in the Bible.”

The resurrection is - and that is what Easter signifies to Christians.

2) “ Acts 12:4 is a mis-print only in the KJV of the Bible.”

It’s not a misprint. It was a very deliberate editorial choice by the translators of the KJV. They knew Easter was synonymous with Passover (i.e. Pascha) in non-Germanic language speaking countries for Christians meaning the Resurrection.

3) “Eze 8:16 speaks of a Sunrise service and how God called it an abomination.”

It is logically impossible for the celebration of the Resurrection of Lord to be an abomination so your comment is meaningless here.

4) “Before that he speaks of women weeping over Tammuz on the winter’s solstice(Dec. 25th) as an abomination.(Eze 8:14)”

Winter solstice is on December 21st not the 25th. You poor deluded, barely educated man.

5) “The days God directed us to observe are found in Leviticus 23.”

Those days no longer need to be honored as Jews honored them because they are part of the old law and Jesus fulfilled that law.

6) “Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century.”

No. The Feast of the Resurrection was celebrated from the time of the Apostles. The word Easter was not used by anyone for that feast in the 4th century because there really were no Germanic Christians yet. They were only converted in later centuries.

7) “To not understand the history of Christmas, Easter, the Yule log, and other fables is just denial of truth.”

Clearly, between the two of us, I am the only one who DOES understand these things.

8) “ A yule log is a baby thrown in a fire to Baal.”

No. Yule is a winter time festival of events celebrated by pagan Germanic peoples in Europe. And the Yule log was a purely European thing.

Baal was a pagan god in the Levant. That means the Middle East - in other words no where near Europe and the Germanic peoples. Ironically, it would be Christianity and its stories from the Old Testament that would have been the very first instance of Germanic peoples learning anything about the ancient pagan god Baal - and that was only as one to be detested and condemned.

9) “Jer 10:4 is a discussion of idols in Israel like Christmas trees.”

No it isn’t. For one thing it doesn’t mention Christmas trees. Also, since literally no one has ever worshipped a Christmas tree in recorded history, they aren’t idols to anyone.

There are at least 9 documentable errors in that one post of yours. Knowing that you can’t go more than a few words without making an error, is there really a point to this other than to cause yourself embarrassment?


30 posted on 12/27/2022 3:10:33 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
Easter and Passover are not on the same day,....ever! Acts 12:4 says "Passover" in other translations other than KJV.

If God directs you to observe Passover and you decide to observe another day, are you just giving the finger to God? You can signify what you want,but God has directed observance of another day. Same with Dec 25th. Nothing of Biblical importance happens in December.

Back to the KJV of the Bible. Genesis 4:26 says "Men began to call upon the name of the Lord after Enosh was born. What it actually says is "Men began to defile or profane the name of the Lord" at that time.

You say the Lev 23 days don't need to be fulfilled because Jesus fulfilled them. IS He finished? The next fulfillment will be the Rapture of the church on Trumpets.The last fulfillment was the birth of the church on Pentecost. The Last Trump can only happen on Trumpets. Jews say the day no one knows the day or the hour is Trumpets because it is the only day with a new moon and can last for 2 days.

I don't want to spend all my time writing chapters of the Bible explaining what they mean to someone that has been brought up in American Gentile church. There is too much error.If you were interested, the info is all there if you were teachable. Just look up the history of Easter and Christmas and it's all there. The RCC forced everyone to drop Lev 23 and follow the pagan days to make Christianity more accepted by Gentile pagans. That includes Sunday worship, the day they already worshiped the sun god.

If you look at it like I do, you will see that you are following a man and not God. The pope changed the calendar and days and went against the Word of God. Is Jesus the "Word of God?"

Everything I said was true and provable in Scripture. What you are following are wives tales made up over the centuries even if you want to convince yourself that you are worshiping God.

When Israel became Israel and Judah, the northern Kingdom began to worship bulls and the king made priests from non Levites and declared a feast on the 8th month and 15th day, instead of the 7th month and 15th day like Scripture demands. That is what has happened today with the church. God blesses certain days and tells you what they are in Scripture. You can't just make up a day and insist that you are worshiping God on a made up day.

I'm tired of typing, but I'll give you one more. Look up in Scripture how many times God tells you to "watch!" What are we to watch for? When are we to watch? Google "The King is in the field". In Matt 25, who were the wise virgins and who were foolish virgins? The foolish weren't ready to go. The month of Elul is when you pray, repent, and fast, right before Trumpets, when the King is in the field. Gentile Christians know nothing about this time and believe Jesus could come for His Bride on some random day no one knows.

I'm not going to write a book to answer your ramblings I've heard all my life. It's time to get off the milk and onto the meat.

31 posted on 12/28/2022 1:22:33 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

“Easter and Passover are not on the same day,....ever!”

That’s literally your first sentence - and you’re wrong:

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/2022/04/13/passover-and-easter-overlap-2022-they-have-more-common-than-you-think/7303486001/

It should give you pause that you are wrong this often.

But instead of realizing just how many mistakes you make - mistakes you have no answer for - you wrote: “I’m not going to write a book to answer your ramblings I’ve heard all my life. It’s time to get off the milk and onto the meat.”

You are the one who is clearly wrong. You keep proving it.


32 posted on 12/28/2022 6:21:33 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: chuckles
The Greek word is for Passover.

The word used for "Easter" in Greek and all of the Romance languages is derived from the Hebrew word for Passover.

Only English, Norwegian, Dutch, and some western German dialects use "Easter" or a word similar to it.

Easter is a pagan day brought in by the RCC in the 4th century.

Ridiculous. If the feast were newly introduced in the 4th century, why was there controversy about when to celebrate it starting in the 2nd century?

By the way, the feast that Nicaea legislated about was called "Pascha". Look it up. They spoke Greek, not English.

33 posted on 12/29/2022 11:46:03 AM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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