Posted on 06/26/2022 1:28:46 AM PDT by Morgana
Maria Teresa Kumar is a self-proclaimed Catholic and former member of the board of Planned Parenthood. She was also the Saturday guest host of MSNBC’s Velshi where she accused the Supreme Court of implementing Catholicism across the country after it struck down Roe v. Wade.
During a discussion with Slate editor, podcaster, and NBC law and politics analyst Dahlia Lithwick, Kumar declared the U.S. is now going against global trends, “just last year we saw South American countries, heavily Catholic countries like Colombia, like Mexico, saying that abortion was the law of the land. We have a Supreme Court justice that is very much tilted on Catholicism saying that this is something that shouldn’t be done.”
She further claimed “As a Catholic myself, I find it abhorrent” and wondered “How do you reconcile this whole idea that we are now seeing an activist judge on the Supreme Court that is basically saying, mandating how a majority of Americans should live, based on their own religious beliefs?”
For Lithwick this is “the question.” Based off her response viewers might have come away with the impression the Court banned abortion, instead of just returning it to the states, “this is fundamentally a theological issue, it is fundamentally a matter of personal conscience. And there’s so much in this discussion around Roe, around Casey that is inflected, as you say, by not just religious ideas but sectarian religious ideas about when personhood begins, about what’s called ensoulment, which is a theological concept.”
When life begins is also a scientific question that is answered in every high school biology class in the country. Yet, Lithwick declared “those are not secular ideas and yet the Court frames this as a purely secular, non-religious conversation and so we cannot even have the conversation about why we are having the Court imposing what in many, many instances are theological notions on people of other faiths around the country who have different beliefs.”
To try to justify her claim, Lithwick further added there “is a synagogue in Florida who’s actually going to challenge Florida's abortion law because they say that has nothing to do with our theological beliefs and you can’t impose them on us. So, I think you're quite right to say part of the problem here is that we are having a conversation that is fundamentally about religion without calling it that.”
Abortion is still legal in Florida, it’s new law just moved the prohibition limit from 24 to 15 weeks. Furthermore the synagogue claimed in their statement, that Lithwick did not read from, that they are obligated to perform abortions “if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman.” Florida’s law also has a maternal health exception. The stunt lawsuit will fail.
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Here is a transcript for the June 25 show:
MMSNBC Velshi
6/25/2022
8:08 AM
MARIA TERESA KUMAR: But what I also found was striking is just last year we saw South American countries, heavily Catholic countries like Colombia, like Mexico, saying that abortion was the law of the land. We have a Supreme Court justice that is very much tilted on Catholicism saying that this is something that shouldn’t be done. As a Catholic myself, I find it abhorrent. How do you reconcile this whole idea that we are now seeing an activist judge on the Supreme Court that is basically saying, mandating how a majority of Americans should live, based on their own religious beliefs?
DAHLIA LITHWICK: It's—it’s--not just a great question, Maria, I think it’s the question. That this is fundamentally a theological issue, it is fundamentally a matter of personal conscience. And there’s so much in this discussion around Roe, around Casey that is inflected, as you say, by not just religious ideas but sectarian religious ideas about when personhood begins, about what’s called ensoulment, which is a theological concept, those are not secular ideas and yet the Court frames this as a purely secular, non-religious conversation and so we cannot even have the conversation about why we are having the Court imposing what in many, many instances are theological notions on people of other faiths around the country who have different beliefs and one of the interesting thing that came about recently, is a synagogue in Florida who’s actually going to challenge Florida's abortion law because they say that has nothing to do with our theological beliefs and you can’t impose them on us. So, I think you're quite right to say part of the problem here is that we are having a conversation that is fundamentally about religion without calling it that.
Lady if you support abortion you are NOT Catholic.
for myself, this was an issue the FEDERAL government had no business, in forcing the American citizens to support via tax revenue.
It is an issue for the citizens within their state to decide.
And no, I profess to NOT, neither catholic, nor protestant, nor pentecostal.
However, i am concerned where my tax dollars are spent.
I believe that killers need killing, but I’ve neverr seen a killing baby.
Maybe she is a CINO. 😀
Lady if you support abortion you are NOT Catholic.
Actually I think a more accurate term would be BAD CATHOLIC.
“Lady if you support abortion you are NOT Catholic.”
That’s not how Catholicism works. Once someone is baptized and gets forts communion- after study and catechesis, they’re Catholic for life. They can say they’re not Catholic, but they are.
They do anything outside the teachings, that they know, because they’re simple enough for a second grader, they can go to confession- which is good only if they change their ways
First communion
The Supreme Court imposed the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not Catholicism. The 10th Amendment to the Constitution says:
10th AMENDMENT
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Anybody saying different is just pushing democratic talking points for the midterm election.
That’s right, there’s going to be a line in the 1040 asking you to provide proof of receiving the Eucharist.
“The Supreme Court imposed the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not Catholicism. The 10th Amendment to the Constitution says:
“10th AMENDMENT
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
You nailed it!
I think that many, including Catholics, understand that a “pre-birth baby” is a PERSON and that it is a crime to murder a person.
SCOTUS should have recognized the fundamental human right to LIFE and determined that an abortion is a violation of that person’s Constitutional rights, and BANNED abortion in the US.
That will give the “nice weather let’s get together and have a protest” crowd something to fume about.
God will separate the wheat from the chaff.
They need to start piss testing cable TV news hosts. Until they do, we shouldn’t believe any of their so called wisdumb they spew at us.
A catholic in a state of sin will badically totally prostitute herself to satan. Don’t we all, to varying degrees whever we free will voluntarily jump down into sin from the high place our loving God set us and to which with repentance he fied and rose, suffered, for us to have yet another opportunity for his glory.
In condemning abortion the Church is defending the natural law not “religious” teaching.
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