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[Catholic Caucus] BREAKING: Vatican orders forced concelebrations, new restrictions on traditional Mass and sacraments
LifeSite News ^ | December 18, 2021 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 12/18/2021 7:44:31 AM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] BREAKING: Vatican orders forced concelebrations, new restrictions on traditional Mass and sacraments

The document released restricts the traditional celebration of the sacraments, hints at a future withdrawal of permission to celebrate the traditional Mass at all , and issues penalties for priests who will not concelebrate.

Hence, in order to pursue the “progress” desired by Traditionis Custodes (TC), the Congregation ordered that it would “not grant permission to use the Rituale Romanum and the Pontificale Romanum which predate the liturgical reform,” since they have “been abrogated” under the terms of TC. 

Under these conditions, it remains unclear whether the Congregation will allow the traditional orders to hold their ordinations in the ancient liturgical form, or if they will be forced to take place according to the Novus Ordo. 

Priests who don’t concelebrate forbidden from saying Latin Mass 

Concelebration is widespread in the Novus Ordo, and the Congregation have moved to promote this liturgical practice by placing severe restrictions on priests who do not do it. 

Hence, if a priest currently allowed to say the Latin Mass, (whether he be diocesan or part of a traditional order, since the Responsa does not differentiate) and “does not recognise the validity and legitimacy of concelebration – refusing to concelebrate, in particular, at the Chrism Mass,” he is to be banned from saying the traditional Mass. 

Before the bishop places this heavy penalty upon the priest, he is to “establish a fraternal dialogue with the Priest, to ascertain that this attitude does not exclude the validity and legitimacy of the liturgical reform, the teaching of the Second Vatican Council and the Magisterium of the Supreme Pontiffs, and to accompany him towards an understanding of the value of concelebration, particularly at the Chrism Mass.”  

The reason for this is to bolster Pope Francis’ claim in Traditionis Custodes that adherent of the Latin Mass rejecting the liturgical “reform” because “it betrayed the Tradition and the ‘true Church.’” 

“The explicit refusal not to take part in concelebration, particularly at the Chrism Mass, seems to express a lack of acceptance of the liturgical reform and a lack of ecclesial communion with the Bishop, both of which are necessary requirements in order to benefit from the concession to celebrate with the Missale Romanum of 1962,” the Congregation’s Responsa declared. 

Such a statement was noted to be in violation of Canon 902 of the Church’s Canon Law, however, which preserves the right of priests to concelebrate, but only if they wish to concelebrate. 

VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) – The Vatican launched a new attack on the Traditional Latin Mass today when the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (CDWDS) released a Responsa to eleven questions on the Latin Mass. 

The Responsa implements severe restrictions on celebrating the sacraments in the traditional manner, as well as on priests who refuse to concelebrate. 

The document was signed by the staunchly anti-traditionalist head of the CDWDS, Englishman Archbishop Arthur Roche. It is dated December 4 but was published December 18. It was approved by Pope Francis in November.  

Traditional sacraments – axed 

The document was uncompromising in its attitude towards the traditional ceremonies accompanying the seven sacraments.  

“Is it possible, according to the provisions of the Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes, to celebrate the sacraments with the Rituale Romanum and the Pontificale Romanum which predate the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council?” one dubia, or official question, asked.  

“Negative” was the Congregation’s response.  

It stipulated that diocesan bishops can only grant permission to use the “Rituale Romanum (last editio typica 1952),” and this permission is only to be granted in “canonically erected personal parishes,” such as those of the Institute of Christ the King (ICKSP), the Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP), or the Institute of the Good Shepherd (IBP). Five of the seven sacraments are contained in the Rituale Romanum: baptism, penance, Holy Communion, matrimony, and extreme unction.  

This episcopal permission to use the Rituale should be granted by the diocesan bishop only “[a]fter discernment.” 

The Responsa specifically ruled out bishops granting permission for the use of the Pontificale Romanum, which contains the sacraments of Confirmation and Holy Orders. 

The aim to suppress the traditional Latin Mass is clear. The Congregation reminded bishops that Traditionis Custodes “intends to re-establish in the whole Church of the Roman Rite a single and identical prayer expressing its unity,” apparently in line with Vatican II and “the tradition of the Church.” 

Mass in parish church – allowed in very limited circumstances 

While Traditionis Custodes (TC) forbade the celebration of the Latin Mass in parish churches, the Responsa has allowed for parish churches to be used for the Mass in places where “it is not possible to find a church, oratory or chapel which is available to accommodate the faithful.” 

Explaining why the ban on using a parish church had been stipulated in TC, the Responsa stated that: “The exclusion of the parish church is intended to affirm that the celebration of the Eucharist according to the previous rite, being a concession limited to these groups, is not part of the ordinary life of the parish community.” 

Under the terms of the Responsa, the diocesan bishop must “request” that a parish church can be used, “only if it is established that it is impossible to use another church, oratory or chapel. The assessment of this impossibility must be made with the utmost care.” 

Furthermore, if the parish church is used for the Latin Mass, the attendees are set to be ostracized, as the Responsa orders that the Mass “should not be included in the parish Mass schedule,” and “should not be held at the same time as the pastoral activities of the parish community.” However, the Congregation claims that there is no intention to “marginalise the faithful” devoted to the traditional Mass. 

Usage of biblical translations 

The Responsa, responding to Pope Francis’ decree that certain readings in the Latin Mass be proclaimed in the vernacular, permitted the use of “the full text of the Bible for the readings, choosing the pericopes indicated in the Missal.” 

Such a permission was granted since “[n]o vernacular lectionaries may be published that reproduce the cycle of readings of the previous rite.” 

Defending the order to use the vernacular for certain parts of the traditional Mass, the Congregation stated that the Novus Ordo lectionary is “one of the most precious fruits of the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council.” 

Future priests to be forced to say the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass? 

The Responsa next turned to the provisions made in TC for priests ordained after July 16, who wish to say the traditional Latin Mass.  

The Congregation ruled that such permission is still in place, subject to the procedures outlined in Traditionis Custodes, stipulating that the diocesan bishop must assess each case and seek permission from the Vatican before allowing the new ordinand to say the traditional Mass.  

However, the explanation of this particular question seemed to indicate that priests could be forced to say both the Novus Ordo and the Latin Mass. Mentioning that TC described the liturgical texts of “Popes Saint Paul VI and Saint John Paul II,” – the Novus Ordo – as  “the unique expression of the lex orandi of the Roman Rite,” the Congregation wrote: “it is therefore absolutely essential that Priests ordained after the publication of the Motu Proprio share this desire of the Holy Father.” 

“All seminary formators, seeking to walk with solicitude in the direction indicated by Pope Francis, are encouraged to accompany future Deacons and Priests to an understanding and experience of the richness of the liturgical reform called for by the Second Vatican Council,” the Congregation added. 

“This reform has enhanced every element of the Roman Rite and has fostered – as hoped for by the Council Fathers – the full, conscious and active participation of the entire People of God in the liturgy (cf. Sacrosanctum Concilium no. 14), the primary source of authentic Christian spirituality.” 

Suggesting an end of any permission to say the Latin Mass 

While stipulating that new priests may say the Latin Mass, subject to the outlined prescriptions, the Congregation also hinted that permission may be withdrawn in future. The Responsa referred to permission to us the traditional missal “for a defined period of time,” which can end upon the decision of the local bishop. 

“The possibility of granting the use of the Missale Romanum of 1962 for a defined period of time – the duration of which the diocesan Bishop will consider appropriate – is not only possible but also recommended: the end of the defined period offers the possibility of ascertaining that everything is in harmony with the direction established by the Motu Proprio. The outcome of this assessment can provide grounds for prolonging or suspending the permission.” 

Notably this section did not contain any exemption for such a future ban on the Latin Mass for members of the traditional orders. 

Local permissions only for Latin Mass 

In what will be a blow particularly for members of the traditional communities, who often travel between dioceses to offer the traditional Latin Mass, the Congregation ruled that permission to celebrate the traditional rites only applies in each particular diocese. Hence, while one diocese may allow a priest to offer the ancient liturgy, the neighbouring diocese may not grant him this permission. 

Priests cannot offer Latin Mass on days when they also say Novus Ordo 

In a prohibition which will severely affect diocesan priests offering the Latin Mass, the Congregation expressly forbade any offering of the Latin Mass on days when the priest also celebrates the Novus Ordo.  

Such a prohibition was defended since “there is no ‘just cause’ or ‘pastoral necessity’ as required by canon 905 §2: “the right of the faithful to the celebration of the Eucharist is in no way denied, since they are offered the possibility of participating in the Eucharist in its current ritual form.” 

Such a prohibition is put in place even for a private Mass, as the priest is banned from offering two Masses “either with a group or privately.” 

This will be a heavy burden on churches not served by the traditional orders, (ICKSP, FSSP, IBP) but by diocesan priests who have been allowed to continue offering the Latin Mass alongside the Novus Ordo.  

The date of December 4 was specifically chosen for the signing of the Responsa since it is the 58th anniversary of the promulgation of Vatican II’s document on the liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium. As with Traditionis Custodes, published July 16 (feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel), the Responsa has been released on another traditional Marian celebration, the feast of the Expectation of Mary. 

Defending Traditionis Custodes as being “in the constant search for ecclesial communion,” the Congregation’s Responsa repeated the papal accusation that the traditional Latin Mass has become “a cause for division.” 

“It is sad to see how the deepest bond of unity, the sharing in the one Bread broken which is His Body offered so that all may be one (cf. Jhn 17:21), becomes a cause for division,” wrote the Congregation. 

Reactions 

Commenting on the document, Vatican journalist Diane Montagna said that it seems the Vatican is now “exerting maximum pressure and control over Catholic Bishops regarding the Traditional Latin Mass.” 

Concern has also been raised about the future of the traditional orders, which has been threatened by the new restrictions.  

Speaking to LifeSiteNews, Deacon Nick Donnelly gave his initial reactions to the Congregation’s “cruel” document: “The threat to revoke the ‘concession’ to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass for priests who refuse to participate in so called ‘concelebration’ is an unnecessary and so a shockingly brutal misuse of power in the Church,” he said.   

“Concelebration was only introduced at Vatican II and can detract from the symbolic reality of the priest acting in persona Christi,” the deacon continued.  

“At the moment of consecration, the priest is Christ offering the sacrifice of His Most Sacred Body and His Precious Blood to the Father in propitiation for mankind’s sins. To have many priests on the sanctuary ‘concelebrating’ at the consecration can hide this sacred sacramental signification.”  

Donnelly added, “There is no need for Pope Francis to place priests in an impossible situation of being unable to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass in the traditional way.”  

“It is so unjustified as to appear cruel.” 

Eric Sammons, editor-in-chief of Crisis Magazine, wrote: “These are wicked commands from a spiritually abusive father.” 



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostate; apostatepope; dictatorpope; francischurch; globalist; mercilesspope; pagan; satanhateslatin
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Eric Sammons, editor-in-chief of Crisis Magazine, wrote: “These are wicked commands from a spiritually abusive father.”

Merry Christmas, from your merciless, apostate pope.

1 posted on 12/18/2021 7:44:31 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 12/18/2021 7:45:00 AM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

The church is as messed up as the USA government. El poopa and Biden...two dictators are ruling the world.


3 posted on 12/18/2021 7:47:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ebb tide

Pope a dope says “OMG! OmiCON!”


4 posted on 12/18/2021 7:48:59 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: ebb tide

Crazy. Prevent a priest from saying mass but give communion to abortion supporters.


5 posted on 12/18/2021 7:50:30 AM PST by rey
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To: ebb tide

The “pope” should go to work for the NFL, the only organization in the world more afraid of the Fauci Flu than is the “pope’s” company.


7 posted on 12/18/2021 7:57:57 AM PST by glennaro (Unmasked ... Unvaxed ... Unafraid ... the most healthy way to go in today's America!)
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To: ebb tide
I cannot help but think, that we are reading the rules emanating from a man who may not speak much longer.

Many have said it seems like these anti-Traditionalist promulgations are coming with a frequency and intensity of someone dying.

If so, the REAL question is, what will the next Pope do with all this?

8 posted on 12/18/2021 8:05:06 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2 )
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To: ebb tide

I’m torn between posting a GIF from Bambi involving Thumper and his Mother, and a poem by Belloc, which would send nearly conflicting messages, fitting as I am torn myself.

However, as I don’t know how to post a GIF, if anyone else knows what I am talking about, please do so.

Here’s the poem.

Heretics all, whoever you may be,
In Tarbes or Nimes, or over the sea,
You never shall have good words from me.
Caritas non conturbat me.

But Catholic men that live upon wine
Are deep in the water, and frank, and fine;
Wherever I travel I find it so,
Benedicamus Domino.

On childing women that are forelorn,
And men that sweat in nothing but scorn:
That is on all that ever were born,
Miserere Domine.

To my poor self on my deathbed,
And all my dear companions dead,
Because of the love that I bore them,
Dona Eis Requiem.

Hilaire Belloc


9 posted on 12/18/2021 8:25:52 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: ebb tide

Welcome to another year of “cancel-brations.”


10 posted on 12/18/2021 8:45:34 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ebb tide

What this means practically I do not know.

But I and my family am not giving up the Latin Mass. Ever. Period. End of story.

If they intend to prevent us, they better get handy with a halberd.


11 posted on 12/18/2021 9:17:28 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud

“But I and my family am not giving up the Latin Mass. Ever. Period. End of story.”

I’m with you. And what it also means is that until these unjust prohibitions on the TLM are removed, I refuse to in any way participate in or patronize the Novus Ordo (other than maybe an occasional funeral or wedding, at which I’ll be a stranger in a strange land like the non-Catholics in attendance).


12 posted on 12/18/2021 9:29:30 AM PST by irishjuggler
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I would counsel anyone to be patient in these trying times. First and foremost, I would point out that any TLM arrangement in a “mixed” Novus Ordo parish is far from ideal anyway, and it was only a matter of time before these arrangements disappeared anyway.

If possible, you should find yourself a dedicated TLM oratory or “parish” that is organized under the FSSP or ICKSP. Those will be in a better position to endure in the U.S. — especially in places where the church property is owned by an independent group of lay Catholics and not by the diocese.

13 posted on 12/18/2021 10:19:09 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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‘First and foremost, I would point out that any TLM arrangement in a “mixed” Novus Ordo parish is far from ideal anyway, and it was only a matter of time before these arrangements disappeared anyway.’

I respectfully disagree. I feel like the “mixed” arrangement works well at my parish. The TLMers and Novus-ers get along and attend the same parish dinners, anti-abortion marches, etc. Having the TLM integrated into regular parish life has drawn the curious from the Novus Ordo to check it out and also exposed them to TLM people who are “normal,” not the fire-breathing weirdos that Bergoglio and company imagine. I’m not going to name names, but my parish is one that featured in the recent “Mass of the Ages, part 1” documentary film. It’s precisely the success of co-existence that has the Vatican all in a tizzy and working feverishly to crack down on us.


14 posted on 12/18/2021 11:31:56 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

Toxic, evil, and fascist.


15 posted on 12/18/2021 11:33:58 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Alberta's Child; irishjuggler; Claud

I joined SSPV last June.


16 posted on 12/18/2021 1:27:10 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: ebb tide
In a prohibition which will severely affect diocesan priests offering the Latin Mass, the Congregation expressly forbade any offering of the Latin Mass on days when the priest also celebrates the Novus Ordo

That's not exactly what it said. What it said is that a priest cannot binate (say two Masses in one day) on a day when he would normally not be permitted to (e.g., a weekday) in order to say mass in both the 1970 and 1962 Missal. It does not prohibit a priest from saying an NO Mass and a TLM on Sundays or major holidays, when bination is normally permitted.

17 posted on 12/18/2021 2:34:15 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion

Why couldn’t a priest offer two public Masses on a weekday?

I see that all the time.


18 posted on 12/18/2021 2:45:28 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: irishjuggler
From a functional standpoint it might “work,” but there’s a fundamental distinction between the two rites — beyond just the rubrics of the Mass — that is obvious to anyone who looks at them closely. The Novus Ordo has far more in common with modern Protestant services than with the Tridentine Mass. Anyone who visits a parish with both of them is bound to notice the stark differences, and — importantly — they’d wonder why two different “religions” are using the same church.

In my experience, there seem to be an inordinate number of conversions from High Anglicanism among the TLM people I’ve known. After speaking with them I can tell you that they never would have converted to Catholicism if the “Novus Ordo church” was the only option for them.

19 posted on 12/18/2021 2:55:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: ebb tide

He would need explicit permission from the bishop to do that. (By weekday, we of course aren’t including major holy days which happen to fall on a weekday.)


20 posted on 12/18/2021 2:56:40 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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