We Can See It Coming

RR ^ | 2/14/21 | Daymond Duck

[Roman_War_Criminal]

I am an optimist because:

I believe Christians will soon see Jesus, see many of those that wrote the Bible, see multitudes of angels, etc. I believe Christians’ saved loved ones will soon be raised from the dead, and we will see them (I will soon see my deceased wife, and she will have a new body that will never get sick or die). I believe there is a good possibility that many Christians could go to heaven without getting sick, dying, having to be buried, etc. I believe the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church, Christians will not go through one minute of the Tribulation Period, Christians will not be on earth when the persecution gets unbearable, Christians will not have to deal with the Mark of the Beast, etc. I believe the gospel will soon go all over the world, multitudes will soon be saved, all Israel will soon be saved, etc. I believe Jesus redeemed this Creation at the same time He redeemed a people on the cross, and the mess this world is in is temporary because Jesus will take this Creation back during the Tribulation Period. I believe there will soon be 1,000 years of peace, justice, and righteousness on earth, Jesus will be worshipped all over the globe, many Christians will have a crown of righteousness for loving His appearing, and Christians will come back to live and reign with Jesus here on this earth for 1,000 years. I refuse to ignore or be in denial about the signs, and I refuse to be pessimistic about the condition of the world because this world is not the Christian’s home, and we win. Finally, I am optimistic because I believe God’s promises, know that He said we can see the day approaching, know that many great prophecy teachers agree that we see the day approaching, and I know that we have much to rejoice about. Here are some reasons why I believe we see the Second Coming approaching:

One, concerning potential corruption in the White House and at the U.S. Dept. of Justice (DOJ): on Feb. 2, 2021, it was reported that Pres. Biden’s pick to run the DOJ’s Criminal Division and one of Hunter Biden’s new Criminal Defense Attorneys are from the same law firm.

Two, concerning a peace treaty in the Middle East: on Feb. 4, 2021, it was reported that UN Sec. Gen. Guterres wants to restart the Middle East Peace Process in the UN Quartet (US, EU, Russia, and UN) meetings.

Guterres thinks the meetings could succeed in producing a peace treaty because Biden “supports a two-state solution between Israel and the PA and will overturn several decisions made under his predecessor, Donald Trump.”

Guterres thinks Trump’s decisions need to be overturned because the Palestinians want a capital in East Jerusalem, plus they want Gaza and all the territory that Israel captured from Jordan in 1967.

Based on Scripture, this writer believes these people are just begging for the judgment of God to fall on this world, and they will come to regret what they are doing.

Three, concerning Jerusalem: on Feb. 4, 2021, the U.S. Senate added a resolution to the Covid stimulus bill that affirmed America’s intention to permanently keep the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem.

Biden’s administration said it does not intend to move the U.S. embassy, but they support a capital for the Palestinians in East Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is a cup of trembling and burdensome stone for the whole world.

Four, also concerning Jerusalem: on Feb. 1, 2021, Kosovo established diplomatic ties with Israel.

Kosovo recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, and Israel recognized Kosovo’s independence from Serbia.

The next day, the Arab Parliament condemned the decision and urged Kosovo to reverse it, but that is not likely to happen.

Five, concerning Covid vaccinations: on Feb. 5, 2021, LifeSiteNews.com reported that U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data shows that between Dec. 14, 2020, and Jan. 29, 2021:

35 million people have received one or both shots. There have been 501 reported deaths (453 in the U.S.). There have been 10,748 reported adverse events (sent to doctor; admitted to hospital; permanently disabled, etc.). The average age of those that died was 77, and the youngest person to die was 23. In addition to the above, 139 cases of facial distortion and 13 miscarriages have been reported. In addition to the above, know that on Feb. 8, 2021, the World Health Organization (WHO) said the current vaccines may not work on new strains of Covid that already exist.

People may need a different kind of vaccine.

Six, concerning pestilence in Israel: on Feb. 5, 2021, Joel Rosenberg, Editor-in-Chief of All Israel News, correctly pointed out that II Chron. 7:12-14 is God’s promise to heal and forgive Israel in the days of drought, famine, plague, etc., in response to the Israelis humbling themselves, praying and seeking Him.

Rosenberg noted that Israel’s Covid lockdown has not saved Israel, but God can.

Rosenberg asked Israeli Prime Min. Netanyahu, Pres. Rivlin, and the entire Israeli Knesset to publicly call for a National Day of Prayer based upon God’s promise in II Chron. 7:14.

Based on Scripture (Jer. 18:8), Rosenberg concluded that it is not wrong for other nations to follow God’s instructions in II Chron. 7:12-14.

At the time of this writing, this writer has not seen a response from Israel’s officials.

Seven, also on Feb. 5, 2021, researchers at an Israeli hospital said they have possibly developed a drug that may cure serious cases of Covid.

30 patients with moderate to severe cases of Covid inhaled the medicine for a few minutes once a day for 5 days, and 29 showed definite improvement in just two days (they were released from the hospital 3 to 5 days later).

More tests are planned, but the hospital believes their discovery is a game-changer.

Eight, concerning world government and open borders: on Feb. 1, 2021, U.S. Border Patrol agents arrested 11 Iranian citizens (6 men and 5 women) when they illegally entered Arizona from Mexico.

Three more Iranians were caught at this same location earlier this year, and others have been caught crossing at other places in the U.S. this year.

Open borders increase the chance of terrorist attacks in the U.S.

Nine, concerning world government and world religion: on Jan. 29, 2021, German Cardinal Gerhard Muller warned that Western capitalists, big-tech giants, and China are forming a dangerous alliance to control what people think, say, and do for the purpose of ruling the world.

Cardinal Muller warned:

That the World Economic Forum (WEF) is using Covid to call for a Great Reset to change the values (sounds like a one-world religion) and subjugate (sounds like a one-world government) the lives of everyone on earth. That this effort to control what everyone on earth thinks, says, and does is a deliberate action, not an innocent endeavor or a conspiracy theory. That Biden is now leading a campaign to “de-Christianize” the Western world (by pushing the Great Reset, promoting abortion, the gay agenda, etc.). He urged Christians not to participate actively or passively in this growing evil.

Ten, on Feb. 5, 2021, it was reported that the U.S. Federal Reserve is working with a group of international central banks (in England, France, Japan, China, Canada, Dubai, Switzerland, etc.) to push the Green Agenda, the Great Reset, the Paris Climate Change accords, the UN 2030 Sustainable Development goals, the world’s economic systems, the world’s depopulation goals, etc.

As I understand what they intend to do, any government, business or individual that wants to borrow money, apply for a grant, receive a stimulus package, etc., will have to commit to the globalist agenda, or they will not get it.

Put another way, people will have to support the globalist agenda to qualify for a loan, grant, etc. (they must submit to qualify, or they will be rejected).

This is not far-fetched. Tucker Carlson recently reported that Bank of America gave credit card information to the FBI on people that purchased items (T-shirts, weapons or weapons-related items, hotel rooms, etc.) in Washington D.C, Maryland, or Virginia on Jan. 5 or 6, 2021 (the day of the capitol takeover).

Eleven, concerning the coming economic collapse and famine: on Feb. 4, 2021, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. wrote an article for Technocracy News & Trends that said global lockdowns have:

Bankrupted 100,000 businesses in the U.S. Impoverished one billion people worldwide. Threatened the food supply of one billion people worldwide. Twelve, concerning persecution: on Feb. 3, 2021, it was reported that a proposed law in Denmark will require all sermons not preached in Danish to be translated into the Danish language and submitted to the government in writing.

Religious groups are protesting this law and expressing concern that approval in Denmark could trigger similar laws in other nations.

The bill is not clear, but religious groups also fear that they will have to submit their sermons to the government for approval before the sermons can be preached.

Thirteen, concerning gun control and world government: on Feb. 1, 2021, it was reported that a bill called H.R. 127 has been introduced in Congress (on Jan. 4, 2021) to track the make, model, and serial number of all firearms, who owns the firearm, the date each firearm was acquired, and where the firearm is being stored; it applies retroactively, and it covers firearms that a person has owned for a long time.

Those that already own firearms will be required to take a psychological evaluation, be subjected to a criminal background check, and their spouse and at least two family members or associates must be interviewed by a licensed psychologist.

Congress has not yet voted on the bill, but it is important to understand that Biden has promised gun control legislation, and many politicians want to disarm America before they surrender the sovereignty of the U.S. to the UN.

Gun sales have broken all records since this bill was introduced.

Finally, if you want to go to heaven, you must be born again (John 3:3). God loves you, and if you have not done so, sincerely admit that you are a sinner; believe that Jesus is the virgin-born, sinless Son of God who died for the sins of the world, was buried, and raised from the dead; ask Him to forgive your sins, cleanse you, come into your heart and be your Saviour; then tell someone that you have done this.

[Cronos]

Isn’t verbal diarrhoea part of the Seventh day Adventist cult teachings as in Ellen g white writings?

After all you just admitted that

1. Adventist dogma is that some races are descended from sexual union of humans and animals

2. Adventist belief is that Jesus is not God.

3. Adventist belief is that Satan took on the sins of the world.

[Cronos]

Ah your favourite Adventist site aloha.net

The same one where you buy your tin foil Adventist hats from?

Is it made by the half human half animal races that you Adventists say are there?

[Cronos]

And 68 AD seemed like the end of the civilized world.

Nero was overthrown and the Julio claudian dynasty ended, there were 4 emperors in one year.

It was the period of the end of the 2nd temple Jewish world and nearly the end of the beast from the sea, the Roman empire. The whore, ie the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem, rode the beast but was then burnt and destroyed by this gentile (from the sea) beast when Jerusalem was destroyed in 69 to 70 AD.

[Cronos]

So you, Phil, prince of insufficient light, think that the second coming occurred in 1844. Was Ellen g white dancing the cancan then?

[Cronos]

Correct. The wicked were raptured away

[HKMk23]

I’m not a buyer.

Preterism is interesting, and the historical elements drawn out invite people into worthwhile study of figures like Josephus. On the whole, though, it’s not as convincing as 19th Century Darbyism, which you likely note I reject.

I’ve years ago written my objections at some length in these forums; perhaps to you, even. It’s been a decade, at least, perhaps around 2006 when Alamo Girl conducted her surveys of eschatological leanings. Funny. I was a pre-tribber back then, but not taking it too seriously; I had my mind considering other angles already.

[Cronos]

I really don't understand what you mean by "preterist"

As I pointed out - the Jews of that time saw the events of the first century as the end of the world - as predicted in Daniel.

I didn't actually note what you hold to, I'm sorry, but if you reject Darbyism then that's a good basis. A lot of the other positions are fine, but with Darbyism and pre-tribulation rapture -- it ruins Christian life as we see in Harold Camping's wake.

It also leads to smugness - ignoring the plight of Christians suffering horrific tribulations in the world RIGHT NOW.

[Cronos]

Alamo-girl has been offline since 2016.

[Cronos]

Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

God entrusted the sabbath to Israel to keep as a sign of the irrevocable covenant.

The Gospel reports many incidents when Jesus was accused of violating the sabbath law. But Jesus never fails to respect the holiness of this day. e gives this law its authentic and authoritative interpretation: "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."

Jesus rose from the dead "on the first day of the week." Because it is the "first day," the day of Christ's Resurrection recalls the first creation. Because it is the "eighth day" following the sabbath, it symbolizes the new creation ushered in by Christ's Resurrection. For Christians it has become the first of all days, the first of all feasts, the Lord's Day (he kuriake hemera, dies dominica) Sunday

Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week

Furthermore, Phill of insufficient light -- Strictly speaking, the sabbath is the day it always was--Saturday--though it should be noted that traditionally Jewish people have celebrated the sabbath from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. Do you Adventists celebrate Sabbath from sundown on Friday to Sunday on Saturday?

Properly speaking, we're not celebrating the sabbath on Sunday. We're celebrating something else, but it's something that the sabbath points toward. the Jewish sabbath announces man's eternal rest in God and prefigures some aspects of Christ. Sunday thus fulfills what the sabbath pointed toward.

What we are celebrating instead of the sabbath is "the Lord's day." That's something Christians have celebrated since the first century. In fact, in the very first chapter of Revelation, we read that John experienced the inaugural vision of the book on "the Lord's day." He writes:

I John, your brother, who share with you in Jesus the tribulation and the kingdom and the patient endurance, was on the island called Patmos on account of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet [Revelation 1:9-10].

And he goes on to describe the vision of Jesus Christ he received. For our purposes, the important thing to note is that he speaks of the Lord's day as an already-established thing. He expects his readers to know what it is. So, when is it?

It's Domenica i.e. Sunday - a day separate from Sabbath.

[Cronos]

To be succinct - the Good news is to be preached to all the civilized Roman World - and that already happened by 54 AD as Paul wrote in Rom 1:8 First, I give thanks[f] to my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is heralded throughout the world and in Col 1:5-6 First, I give thanks[f] to my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is heralded throughout the world in Paul's mind there was no doubt that the gospel had gone out into the whole world Clement wrote in 73 AD that Peter and Paul had been martyred, but not before they "taught righteousness to the whole world, and they came to the extreme limit of the west"

The description of Mark 13 is standard apocalyptic language - read about the stars falling from the sky in Isaiah.

[Cronos]

In the midst of Tribulation there is a revival among the Jews out of which 144,000 greatly anointed Messianic evangelists emerge to minister to the Jews.

The problem is that you guys forget that

1. Christianity IS a sect of Judaism -
   
   
2. What we call "Jews" today is the continuation of the Pharisee sect that was created in 70 AD by Rabbi yohannan ben Zakkai.
   
   
3. "Jews" of today - more specifically "Rabbinical Judaism" or "pharisee-Judaism" is a SISTER religion to "Jesus-movement Judaism" i.e. Christianity
   
   
4. A large number of Jews DID become followers of "the way" - why did Paul, John etc. write about the followers of the way being beaten in synagogues

A huge ton of 2nd temple Jews lost their world when the temple was destroyed. A large chunk became followers of "the way" i.e. Christians - they didn't change from being "Jews" but became members of a sect of Judaism

others followed Rabbi Ben ZAkkai -- and NOTE that the Pharisees in the council of jamnia REJECTED much of the texts in the Old Testament that supported their rival sect, the Jesus-movement Jews.

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Don't just believe what I wrote - go and read for yourself

1. The Talmud - this is the Oral Torah that the Pharisees followed and that was written down in the 6th to 8th century

2. The life of Rabbi Ben Zakkai

3. The council of Jamnia

[Cronos]

Some books to reference -

[Philsworld]

So you, Phil, prince of insufficient light, think that the second coming occurred in 1844

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I already CLEARLY told you no.

[Philsworld]

Enoch was taken to God before the flood came.

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God taking Enoch had nothing to do with the flood.

[Philsworld]

Congratulations, do you go about telling people of different races that the seventh day Adventist cult believes they are untermenschen?

Or did your dear leader Ellen tell you to keep it a secret until they get indoctrinated into your cult?

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Already CLEARLY answered and REFUTED, in the link.

[Philsworld]

Ellen g white wrote

“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.” (Letter 32, 1999, quoted in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, Vol. 5, p.1129).

She’s your proohetess and founder and you Adventists consider her teaching as scripture. So you believe that?

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Again, CLEARLY answered and REFUTED in the link provided. Why don’t you try reading it?

[Cronos]

leaders of Judaism rejected their Messiah (Daniel revealed it would happen

Daniel says nothing of this sort. The only time the word Messiah is used in Daniel is

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Where do you read "the leaders of Judaism rejected their Messiah as written by Daniel"???

[Cronos]

MHGinTN God, removes The Church (the Body of Christ made up of all Believers since Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost), BEFORE He begins to pour out His wrath on the unbelievers -- he does nothing of that sort.

[Philsworld]

After all you just admitted that

1. Adventist dogma is that some races are descended from sexual union of humans and animals

2. Adventist belief is that Jesus is not God.

3. Adventist belief is that Satan took on the sins of the world.

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Once again, already CLEARLY answered and REFUTED in the links I provided.

Many on FR know you are a liar. What you said above is a lie. So, you continue in your Jesuit lies. Did you take the Jesuit oath?

[Varsity Flight]

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