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Why Does God Allow Christians to Suffer?
The reason For My Faith ^ | 1/29/21 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 01/29/2021 7:14:54 PM PST by OneVike

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Normally I would not put myself into commentaries I write like this one, but when I have a life experience to share that is relative to the subject I will. In this case it's about suffering and to show I walk the walk for the talk I talk, I felt it would give more credence to my opinion I share on this topic.
1 posted on 01/29/2021 7:14:54 PM PST by OneVike
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We all suffer in this World. Yet many may
wonder why should Christians suffer? After
all, we have Christ, shouldn't we be immune?


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2 posted on 01/29/2021 7:19:59 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

God knows what time I will wake up on 2/24/2024.


3 posted on 01/29/2021 7:25:52 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: OneVike

As a kid, I grew up in Germany during the cold War. I remember East Berlin and the trials and tribulations the oppressed went through. They overcame many challenges and we have yet to see anything close to their ordeal. An Irish song. “Come by the Hills” has a lyric, “The past has been lost, and the future is yet to be won, and the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done.” We will persevere with God’s grace and divine mercy. We have hope, simple as that.


4 posted on 01/29/2021 7:28:44 PM PST by snork55 (theirs is not to wonder why, theirs is but to do or die... )
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To: OneVike

Not being anywhere nearly as religious as I wish I were and ought to be, I simply cannot comprehend how our Lord could sacrifice his dutiful servant President Donald J. Trump . . .
Moreover, I am at a lost to accept how God allowed all of President Trump’s diligent work on behalf of making lives better for Christians and Jews, etc., to be unraveled by the DemonRATS.

Two key examples are how the historic peace deals in the Middle East are now in jeopardy with the Iran-friendly regime now in power;
and as we marked today’s March for Life, more innocent unborn life will now be slaughtered!!!

Biteme IIRC has already revoked PDJT’s Mexico City policy.

Why, indeed, can a merciful benevolent deity condemn his most devout followers to be so cruelly persecuted anew, especially when they had just found thee perfect leader to protect their rights and freedoms????!!!!


5 posted on 01/29/2021 7:32:39 PM PST by edie1960
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To: OneVike

This is an interesting question that only someone who has been through suffering with God’s help can answer.

Many who are in heaven who never had a chance to live life and suffer through it I’m sure would like to know.


6 posted on 01/29/2021 7:37:28 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: snork55

I wish I could here it with the music

You are right about our trials in America, they just begun, but unless christ returns we will persevere


7 posted on 01/29/2021 7:38:41 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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Because God is God; who are you or anyone to say what suffering is, especially in a historical context.

Try living in a world with no electricity, plumbing, irrigation, grocery stores, vibrant economy, automobiles, aircraft, computers, combustible engines, steam powered ships, railroads, etc... that most of human history had to experience.

We have things too easy in today's world. The only suffering that is occurring is through our own selfish fault.
8 posted on 01/29/2021 7:39:59 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: edie1960

Satan is the “god of this world” temporarily

2 Corinthians 4:3-4

His servants do his bidding

They prosper in their evil for a short while


9 posted on 01/29/2021 7:40:00 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Appreciate your keen insight.

Hopefully, as you write, Satan’s current rule will be temporary and their evil will only prosper for a short while.

President Trump 2024!!!


10 posted on 01/29/2021 7:42:28 PM PST by edie1960
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The enemy while defeated at the Cross is bound for 1000 years when Christ returns - Revelation 19 I think


11 posted on 01/29/2021 7:44:35 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Tell me, how many people do you know truly try to stop the evils of abortion in America? Not even 99% of Christians ever speak out publicly against it.

To God, this is America’s sin. We perpetuated it, we perfected it, and we use our tax dollars to force other countries into allowing it or we will not give them any.

No matter how good our President was, too many on our side wanted us to fail. Don’t blame God, blame all those so-called Republicans who never lifted a finger to help him.

We could have used the Constitution, but hell, even in Idaho where Trump won almost 60% of the votes, not one Republican stood up in Congress to help.

No, it’s not God’s fault, He just gave us what the people we elected wanted, And it wasn’t Trump or success. They want globalism and all the perks the elected ones can get from it.

God knows that, even if we are too stubborn to admit it.


12 posted on 01/29/2021 7:45:20 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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I can’t believe we are going thru this after 1500+ years of theology! When God intervenes directly in the acts of humans it is a complete erasure and start from square one event! In even simpler terms everybody dies and He begins again!


13 posted on 01/29/2021 7:46:01 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: edie1960
You ask poignant questions that we all think about from time to time. God knows the end from the beginning. He well said "Your ways are not My Ways". He knows things that we cannot. But He knows that all things (even bad ones) work to the will of God. That is a hard thing to comprehend but God sees the future and this future is SO bright because there is no sin, no evil, no pain and it can be ours if we endure.
I would ask that you consider reading a good book about the life and ministry on Jesus. At least read the Book of John in the Bible. Only by focusing on Him and His struggles while on earth can we lose the anger, self pity and frustration of our every day lives.
14 posted on 01/29/2021 7:46:06 PM PST by BipolarBob (USA - Born July 4, 1776. Died Jan. 20, 2021 in the Year of our Covid - a new error.)
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To: edie1960

Oops I thought 20maybe and sure enough

Revelation 20:10


15 posted on 01/29/2021 7:47:28 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: edie1960

How indeed,,,
and to be Beaten by
A Senile, Pedophile Grifter!
.
God help us understand.


16 posted on 01/29/2021 7:50:16 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: edie1960

Sorry out and on phone

20:10 at end of 1000 years

Satan is bound for 1000 years prior then let loose for a short season then cast into the lake of fire in 20:10


17 posted on 01/29/2021 7:50:56 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: OneVike

“Tho He Slay me.
Yet Will I Trust Him!”


18 posted on 01/29/2021 7:52:46 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: edie1960

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020%3A3&version=KJV

Chained in 20:3


19 posted on 01/29/2021 7:55:20 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: edie1960
Why, indeed, can a merciful benevolent deity condemn his most devout followers to be so cruelly persecuted anew, especially when they had just found thee perfect leader to protect their rights and freedoms????!!!!

There's a MUCH bigger picture to consider.

    So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden.

    One of you will say to me, “Then why does God still find fault? For who can resist His will?” But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to Him who formed it, “Why did You make me like this?” Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special occasions and another for common use?

    What if God, intending to show His wrath and make His power known, bore with great patience the vessels of His wrath, prepared for destruction? What if He did this to make the riches of His glory known to the vessels of His mercy, whom He prepared in advance for glory— including us, whom He has called not only from the Jews, but also from the Gentiles? As He says in Hosea:

    “I will call them ‘My People’ who are not My people, and I will call her ‘My Beloved’ who is not My beloved,” and, “It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’ ”

    Isaiah cries out concerning Israel:

    “Though the number of the Israelites is like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved. For the Lord will carry out His sentence on the earth thoroughly and decisively.” (Romans 9:16-28)

20 posted on 01/29/2021 8:01:25 PM PST by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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