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Why Does God Allow Christians to Suffer?
The reason For My Faith ^ | 1/29/21 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 01/29/2021 7:14:54 PM PST by OneVike

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To: OneVike

It is human nature not to appreciate what we are given without suffering or earning.

I choose what I have earned over the price of those wanting to give to me. I am beholden only to God.


21 posted on 01/29/2021 8:01:34 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: TexasGator
God knows what time I will wake up on 2/24/2024.

Wow! You're gonna be asleep for a long time.
22 posted on 01/29/2021 8:01:55 PM PST by Old Yeller (Nana Pelosi is a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples. Thus the slurred speaking.)
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To: edie1960

I have been asking that question daily since November.


23 posted on 01/29/2021 8:03:01 PM PST by madison10
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To: OneVike

Bkmk


24 posted on 01/29/2021 8:08:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: OneVike

{No matter how good our President was, too many on our side wanted us to fail. Don’t blame God, blame all those so-called Republicans who never lifted a finger to help him.}

Excellent points!!

It’s truly sinful how not nearly enough Republicans rose up with clarion calls of righteous outrage over how such obvious fraud was perpetrated in the election. God gives us the ability to speak up and I guess it’s not His fault if we choose to remain silent and let our franchise be usurped and our lives suffer in the balance!!


25 posted on 01/29/2021 8:08:51 PM PST by edie1960
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To: edie1960

Just look at the wastrels on Wall St. we learned about this week. Human garbage is proliferating in America like dandelions in springtime. No God, no morals.
God bless this OP for this wonderful article. I lost my beautiful wife this week, and your words are comforting. Thank YOU!


26 posted on 01/29/2021 8:14:33 PM PST by alstewartfan (One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace. Al S.)
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To: boatbums

Thanks for sharing your poignant passages from (Romans 9:16-28)

Just may I add my prayers that His sentence on the earth is NOT in fact come to be thoroughly and decisively carried out.

Please let there still be another day of redemption for us when God shall shed his grace upon our land and grant us renewed grace and strength to endure!!!


27 posted on 01/29/2021 8:17:00 PM PST by edie1960
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To: rollo tomasi
We have things too easy in today's world. The only suffering that is occurring is through our own selfish fault.

That is simply not true.

Some suffering is from that, but much of it, and I’d say most of it, is inflicted on us. It’s beyond our control when someone else chooses to do evil against us, someone is suffering with health issues, or accidents happen.

28 posted on 01/29/2021 8:19:40 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: OneVike
PSALM 73

1 Truly God is good to the upright,
to those who are pure in heart.

2 But as for me, my feet had almost stumbled,
my steps had well nigh slipped.
3 For I was envious of the arrogant,
when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For they have no pangs;
their bodies are sound and sleek.
5 They are not in trouble as other men are;
they are not stricken like other men.
6 Therefore pride is their necklace;
violence covers them as a garment.
7 Their eyes swell out with fatness,
their hearts overflow with follies.
8 They scoff and speak with malice;
loftily they threaten oppression.
9 They set their mouths against the heavens,
and their tongue struts through the earth.

10 Therefore the people turn and praise them;
and find no fault in them.
11 And they say, “How can God know?
Is there knowledge in the Most High?”
12 Behold, these are the wicked;
always at ease, they increase in riches.
13 All in vain have I kept my heart clean
and washed my hands in innocence.
14 For all the day long I have been stricken,
and chastened every morning.

15 If I had said, “I will speak thus,”
I would have been untrue to the generation of thy children.
16 But when I thought how to understand this,
it seemed to me a wearisome task,
17 until I went into the sanctuary of God;

then I perceived their end.
18 Truly thou dost set them in slippery places;
thou dost make them fall to ruin.
19 How they are destroyed in a moment,
swept away utterly by terrors!
20 They are like a dream when one awakes,
on awaking you despise their phantoms.

21 When my soul was embittered,
when I was pricked in heart,
22 I was stupid and ignorant,
I was like a beast toward thee.
23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee;
thou dost hold my right hand.
24 Thou dost guide me with thy counsel,
and afterward thou wilt receive me to glory.
25 Whom have I in heaven but thee?
And there is nothing upon earth that I desire besides thee.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart and my portion for ever.

27 For lo, those who are far from thee shall perish;
thou dost put an end to those who are false to thee.
28 But for me it is good to be near God;
I have made the Lord God my refuge,
that I may tell of all thy works.

29 posted on 01/29/2021 8:21:16 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: OneVike

I assume you meant until Christ returns we will persevere...We we will! God bless.


30 posted on 01/29/2021 8:23:10 PM PST by snork55 (theirs is not to wonder why, theirs is but to do or die... )
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To: alstewartfan

Oh, my!!

Sending my heartfelt condolences to you upon the loss of your beautiful wife this week.

Very humbled and grateful that any words I typed tonight were able to offer some measure of comfort to you at this terrible time in your life!! Thank you for your great tribute to me!

Totally agree with your assessment about how Human garbage is proliferating in America like dandelions in springtime. No God, no morals.

May I add my blessings to this OP for sharing this wonderful article on FR this evening. Very timely and thought provoking, to say the least.

Again, I send my sincerest sympathies to you and hope you are surrounded by supportive family and friends.


31 posted on 01/29/2021 8:25:08 PM PST by edie1960
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To: edie1960

Satan is still the ruler of this world - for a limited time. There will be a world-wide evil dictatorial government which will demand to be worshipped. There will be a terrible period of seven years (the tribulation) before the visible return of Christ, which will be the end of Satan’s dominion over the world. Why all this must take place is a mystery, but it is certain to happen exactly as the Bible describes it.


32 posted on 01/29/2021 8:25:53 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: OneVike

I assume you meant until Christ returns we will persevere...We we will! God bless.


33 posted on 01/29/2021 8:28:22 PM PST by snork55 (theirs is not to wonder why, theirs is but to do or die... )
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To: edie1960

We know God is in control. I don’t like this current portion of His plan, I have it as a matter of fact. There is no other name by which we can be saved. God made it all.
Now some perspective. Read the Bible and you’ll see His chosen people were judged and placed into slavery many many times. More modern history; Christians were martyred in the most horrible ways in Rome. Persecuted in Soviet Russia; many places around the world Christians are being persecuted.
Jesus told us not to be surprised. The world hated Him before us. We have faith and keep to the narrow path. Stay strong FRiend.


34 posted on 01/29/2021 8:29:07 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: OneVike

Bkmk


35 posted on 01/29/2021 8:35:10 PM PST by sauropod (#ImpeachMcConnell. #Resist. #NotMyPresident.)
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To: fidelis

Joe Biden has had a lifetime of wickedness, corruption, fraud, and vicious dishonesty. And now he has stolen the presidency.


36 posted on 01/29/2021 8:36:27 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: edie1960

“Not being anywhere nearly as religious as I wish I were and ought to be, I simply cannot comprehend how our Lord could sacrifice his dutiful servant President Donald J. Trump . . .
Moreover, I am at a lost to accept how God allowed all of President Trump’s diligent work on behalf of making lives better for Christians and Jews, etc., to be unraveled by the DemonRATS.”

“Religious” or not, I do not think that Donald Trump began his run for President in the name of God. I think he did it because he was so disgusted with what the left and the swamp of rino’s had done and and was doing to America that he could not help himself. It does appear that at some point during that 4 years, he did do some things that would seem to be influenced by a Christian spirit. Whether that was his wifes influence, Robert Jeffries influence, or that he actually got saved through all this or began allowing a previous conversion to influence him, who knows. I think that the most notable thing that Trump did was recognize Jerusalem as THE capital of Israel. That was certainly historic.

“Two key examples are how the historic peace deals in the Middle East are now in jeopardy with the Iran-friendly regime now in power;”

Since God is clear in scripture that He will make Jerusalem a trembling cup to the world, I am not too certain the “middle east peace” is on God’s agenda. In reality, Israel is not in “jeopardy” in any way, shape, or form. The 6 day war proved that. God’s timeline for Israel marches on, regardless of happens anywhere else in the world.

“and as we marked today’s March for Life, more innocent unborn life will now be slaughtered!!!”

This I agree with. The ONLY consolation is that since the current administration cheated to gain power, anything they do is NOT in the name of the people of the United States of America, spiritually speaking...it is all on them. Unless people are, or know, Christian missionary folk, people have NO IDEA what goes on in the rest of the world outside of the United States where the spirit of evil is clearly at work against Christianity, nor do they begin to comprehend the dangers involved in repenting and inviting Christ into their life as Lord and Savior.

“Biteme IIRC has already revoked PDJT’s Mexico City policy. Why, indeed, can a merciful benevolent deity condemn his most devout followers to be so cruelly persecuted anew, especially when they had just found thee perfect leader to protect their rights and freedoms????!!!!”

We have no idea if Donald Trump was the “perfect leader” to bring into fruition God’s plan for mankind in this age and here in America. Obviously from our point of view, he WAS the man making a positive difference for the first time since Reagan. But that doesn’t mean that it was in God’s plan for it to continue. Perhaps it was simply the wake up call that some people needed to now be able to see just how much evil has actually pervaded this Country. I “feel” the same as you, as if God Himself has turned His back on Donald Trump and Christian America...but in reality it is God’s plan that must take place, not ours. Easy to say but a hard pill to swallow for sure.


37 posted on 01/29/2021 8:45:10 PM PST by Democrat = party of treason
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To: beethovenfan

Hope that Satan isn’t really the ruler of this world—for a limited time.

Moreover, at almost 61 years of age, I’d hate to think that most of the remainder of my life will be forsaken by the terrible seven years TRIBULATION that you describe.

Much of the Bible is perhaps essentially a mystery, which just makes understanding and accepting Satan’s dominion all the more difficult.


38 posted on 01/29/2021 8:46:31 PM PST by edie1960
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To: alstewartfan

My condolences to you in your time of sadness. I almost lost my wife before I had a chance to truly know her and eventual marry her. I pray your grievance is comforted by the knowledge you will meet up again one day in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I often tell people when they lose a beloved one, that they didn’t lose them, they just decided to take an early flight. Like the old days before phones or telegraph or even before letters, when a loved one went ahead, you would not even hear from them until you meet up again.

This is what death for Christians is like, She caught an early flight, and all communication has been cut off, but she is there, and will greet you when you arrive.

God bless you.

Chuck


39 posted on 01/29/2021 8:50:44 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: fidelis

A wonderful Psalm for these days. I am actually in the process of writing a commentary on Psalm 73. Well, it’s going slow, because I keep getting distracted with other commentaries and all, but I am working on it.


40 posted on 01/29/2021 8:53:32 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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