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Normally I would not put myself into commentaries I write like this one, but when I have a life experience to share that is relative to the subject I will. In this case it's about suffering and to show I walk the walk for the talk I talk, I felt it would give more credence to my opinion I share on this topic.
1 posted on 01/29/2021 7:14:54 PM PST by OneVike
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We all suffer in this World. Yet many may
wonder why should Christians suffer? After
all, we have Christ, shouldn't we be immune?


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2 posted on 01/29/2021 7:19:59 PM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

God knows what time I will wake up on 2/24/2024.


3 posted on 01/29/2021 7:25:52 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: OneVike

As a kid, I grew up in Germany during the cold War. I remember East Berlin and the trials and tribulations the oppressed went through. They overcame many challenges and we have yet to see anything close to their ordeal. An Irish song. “Come by the Hills” has a lyric, “The past has been lost, and the future is yet to be won, and the cares of tomorrow can wait till this day is done.” We will persevere with God’s grace and divine mercy. We have hope, simple as that.


4 posted on 01/29/2021 7:28:44 PM PST by snork55 (theirs is not to wonder why, theirs is but to do or die... )
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To: OneVike

Not being anywhere nearly as religious as I wish I were and ought to be, I simply cannot comprehend how our Lord could sacrifice his dutiful servant President Donald J. Trump . . .
Moreover, I am at a lost to accept how God allowed all of President Trump’s diligent work on behalf of making lives better for Christians and Jews, etc., to be unraveled by the DemonRATS.

Two key examples are how the historic peace deals in the Middle East are now in jeopardy with the Iran-friendly regime now in power;
and as we marked today’s March for Life, more innocent unborn life will now be slaughtered!!!

Biteme IIRC has already revoked PDJT’s Mexico City policy.

Why, indeed, can a merciful benevolent deity condemn his most devout followers to be so cruelly persecuted anew, especially when they had just found thee perfect leader to protect their rights and freedoms????!!!!


5 posted on 01/29/2021 7:32:39 PM PST by edie1960
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To: OneVike

This is an interesting question that only someone who has been through suffering with God’s help can answer.

Many who are in heaven who never had a chance to live life and suffer through it I’m sure would like to know.


6 posted on 01/29/2021 7:37:28 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: OneVike
Because God is God; who are you or anyone to say what suffering is, especially in a historical context.

Try living in a world with no electricity, plumbing, irrigation, grocery stores, vibrant economy, automobiles, aircraft, computers, combustible engines, steam powered ships, railroads, etc... that most of human history had to experience.

We have things too easy in today's world. The only suffering that is occurring is through our own selfish fault.
8 posted on 01/29/2021 7:39:59 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: OneVike

I can’t believe we are going thru this after 1500+ years of theology! When God intervenes directly in the acts of humans it is a complete erasure and start from square one event! In even simpler terms everybody dies and He begins again!


13 posted on 01/29/2021 7:46:01 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: OneVike

“Tho He Slay me.
Yet Will I Trust Him!”


18 posted on 01/29/2021 7:52:46 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: OneVike

It is human nature not to appreciate what we are given without suffering or earning.

I choose what I have earned over the price of those wanting to give to me. I am beholden only to God.


21 posted on 01/29/2021 8:01:34 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: OneVike

Bkmk


24 posted on 01/29/2021 8:08:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: OneVike
PSALM 73

1 Truly God is good to the upright,
to those who are pure in heart.

2 But as for me, my feet had almost stumbled,
my steps had well nigh slipped.
3 For I was envious of the arrogant,
when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For they have no pangs;
their bodies are sound and sleek.
5 They are not in trouble as other men are;
they are not stricken like other men.
6 Therefore pride is their necklace;
violence covers them as a garment.
7 Their eyes swell out with fatness,
their hearts overflow with follies.
8 They scoff and speak with malice;
loftily they threaten oppression.
9 They set their mouths against the heavens,
and their tongue struts through the earth.

10 Therefore the people turn and praise them;
and find no fault in them.
11 And they say, “How can God know?
Is there knowledge in the Most High?”
12 Behold, these are the wicked;
always at ease, they increase in riches.
13 All in vain have I kept my heart clean
and washed my hands in innocence.
14 For all the day long I have been stricken,
and chastened every morning.

15 If I had said, “I will speak thus,”
I would have been untrue to the generation of thy children.
16 But when I thought how to understand this,
it seemed to me a wearisome task,
17 until I went into the sanctuary of God;

then I perceived their end.
18 Truly thou dost set them in slippery places;
thou dost make them fall to ruin.
19 How they are destroyed in a moment,
swept away utterly by terrors!
20 They are like a dream when one awakes,
on awaking you despise their phantoms.

21 When my soul was embittered,
when I was pricked in heart,
22 I was stupid and ignorant,
I was like a beast toward thee.
23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee;
thou dost hold my right hand.
24 Thou dost guide me with thy counsel,
and afterward thou wilt receive me to glory.
25 Whom have I in heaven but thee?
And there is nothing upon earth that I desire besides thee.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart and my portion for ever.

27 For lo, those who are far from thee shall perish;
thou dost put an end to those who are false to thee.
28 But for me it is good to be near God;
I have made the Lord God my refuge,
that I may tell of all thy works.

29 posted on 01/29/2021 8:21:16 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: OneVike

Bkmk


35 posted on 01/29/2021 8:35:10 PM PST by sauropod (#ImpeachMcConnell. #Resist. #NotMyPresident.)
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To: OneVike

There is one ingredient in our relationship with God... it is trust. Everything God does is good... sometimes we don’t think so.

I have been a Christian all my life.. In those years there were times I’ve been angry at the Heavens. didn’t do me any good but God put up with me in those times.

I have adult children... one of them had special gifts... among other things...he played the piano with feeling... perfectly!

He was my go to son.. he was always there...

He went to NY and the music industry... where a producer cut his career short because he would not bend his beliefs. He left there angry at the world.

He still was my wonderful son but I was very concerned over his anger at seeing his career gone.

years past... he married... hid enjoyment was writing.... he worked hard all his life.

Health and age.. still I was very concerned.. i could not see this son lost to the worldI prayed... long time. One day my prayer was a demand.... dont put me off any longer.. and I quoted promises from the bible..
AND I added ... for the first time...
whatever it takes.

2 months later I got a phone call from my son. “are you sitting down?”
I just came from the doctor and I have leukemia. I am headed to the hospital.

Now after shock... my first rational thought was God can heal him.

So many knew my son.. there was prayer going up all over the U S... All over the world.

We spent the next 2 years doing everything we could to stop the cancer.

One night he was asleep and felt life leave. his body.. he was transfixed to a side of heaven where he saw many loved ones already gone .. he saw some who had messages for him.. he did not want to leave.. but his wife... he didn’t want to leave her..

he was given the option to come back ... he saw the outstretched hands of Jesus..

It changed his thinking changed his heart.. changed his belief... Jesus took the time to visit my son... He could just as well healed him.. He heard my prayer...

But Jesus did not take the cancer... my son died as I and his wife was beside him... I had asked him if he still saw those from heaven.. and he said yes..all the time..

If I could have begged God to please don’t take my son... I would have done anything to keep him.. i gave birth to him.. cared for him... so proud of the man he had become..thankful for all his abilities.. he was liked by everyone... a leader.. and wonderful son.

But God took him.

He answered my prayer.. He did what I asked and for His own reason.. took him.

Now it was my turn to put my faith.. my trust...in my Heavenly Father... He knows what i dont know.. My son is in Heaven... he is with my mother.. my grandmother.. his dad... and a host more.. and probably playing piano as near the throne as he can..


43 posted on 01/29/2021 9:02:27 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: OneVike

The answer is obvious.


51 posted on 01/29/2021 9:26:31 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: OneVike

Life is suffering

- the Buddha. BC. 500


53 posted on 01/29/2021 9:34:07 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Swamp express to hell unless we fix this election !!!)
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To: OneVike

God allows all to suffer our fellow human’s folly. As a jew I believe this to be a truth. My opinion of course.


61 posted on 01/29/2021 10:05:52 PM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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When I go through trials and tribulations, I try to think of someone I know who is going through worse things, and I consider how they deal with it. For me I don't have to look too far, because my wife is a paraplegic confined to a wheelchair. She has been in one since 9:10 pm Mountain time October 26, 1987. See, I know because we were in the same car that went off a 35 foot embankment. The driver died, a girl lost the use of her arm, and my wife ended up in a wheelchair.

And while we do it, man cannot charge an omniscient (all-knowing) and omnipotent (all powerful) Being with violating His own moral standards or that of anyone else without presuming these unique attributes of deity our self

For instance, while it would be wrong to take innocent life since you would be taking something sacred that you did not give, and you may be robbing others of benefits, joy, etc., yet as the giver of life, who “loans” children to man, then God has a right to use His power to take -for His own purposes - what He gave and make that loss to work out for good.

For since God alone knows what all the effects will be of even the flap of the wing of a butterfly, then He alone know what all the effects will be of taking that life, or all the effects other sufferings in this life, and can make it all work out for Good, esp. in the light of eternity.

Meaning that all the innocent lives that the Giver of life took are and will be thankful that God did and eternity will show the wisdom, benevolence, mercy, grace and justice of God, that He knew exactly what He was doing, despite our protests - as finite souls - when they are negative.

We simply do not see the Big Picture, the intricate tapestry that only an omniscient and omnipotent Being does. Thus while we may judge events as evil now - in this sliver of time in our ignorance of what such will effect, the God of the Bible promises, and has much illustrated, that He makes all things work out for the Good of those who love Him, and this love the good. ( Romans 8:28) Glory to God.

My life is but a weaving ― Corrie ten Boom ―


68 posted on 01/30/2021 3:48:53 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: OneVike
Quote "“Why didn’t God just create us so that we would never have to experience pain, suffering, or sadness?”"

He did...but it's called "Adam and Eve." They made the decision to sin and loose the Garden of Eden.

69 posted on 01/30/2021 3:56:57 AM PST by high info voter
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To: OneVike

Matthew 10: 22You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.


71 posted on 01/30/2021 5:33:54 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: OneVike

God doesn’t protect man from his own decisions. He gave us will and freedom of choice, we need to live with our choices.


75 posted on 01/30/2021 8:02:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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