Posted on 01/28/2021 5:30:10 PM PST by ebb tide
I would say that Catholics who attend weekly mass and try to incorporate their relationship with Jesus into their lives are more inclined to prefer the traditional mass (if they could find one!)
And Catholics who think of Christianity and Marxism as interchangeable prefer the weird stuff.
I couldn’t tell you the percentages.
Too funny - “If you want to understand what’s being said about your God, dish out $60.”
Now I am wondering...
...how many of those who want/like/love a LATIN mass, can actually understand what is being said/spoken?
To me; hearing Latin would be exactly the same as speaking in tongues; which the bible says NOT to do if there is no one to interpret.
I understand that the Latin mass is then repeated/interpreted in English; too?
Then I am left wondering why waste the time doing Latin to begin with?
Some can be found cheaper...
...but TCOJCOLDS FREELY gives away their Book of Mormon.
(OTOH; I don’t know about their OTHER scriptures.)
I remember when I was just a tad I had a missal — a pamphlet used to follow the mass — which had the Latin on one side and an English translation on the other. Also, anyone who attends weekly mass and does not try to learn what the Latin words mean is just punching the clock.
The advantage of Latin is that it is a dead language. The meaning of the words do not change. Therefore we do not run into problems such as ignorant people who think “suffer the children to come unto Me” means that children have to “suffer”.
But the traditional mass is different in ways other than just language. Here is a good explanation of one of those differences: https://reverentcatholicmass.com/blog/what-everyone-should-know-about-ad-orientem-worship
I have attended many different Mass services, though not being Catholic does color my perception somewhat. I have always preferred the Latin form over modern Mass.
It is reverent. The focus is on the blood of the Lamb. The modern mass usually seems quite frivolous in comparison.
. Although I was born too late to have lived in a pre-Vatican II world I was fortunate to have gone to schools where the nuns, and in HS, priests still informed us of the Latin Rite. That being said, years of service as as Prot church organist lead me to question why we don’t perform Mass in Aramaic if we’re going to be sticklers?
I’m okay with the NRSV, but don’t hate Latin. Just hate the post VCII music.
Probably on the order of the Missal pricing. Some cheaper than others based on the paper used the cover and binding.
The triple combination leather bound with thin paper, is going to cost.
The Book of Mormon paperback printed by the tens of thousands in multiple languages, free in the sense that nothing is free other than perhaps salvation, as a free gift, and we all should know the cost of that gift to mankind.
Generally the D & C and the Pearl of Great Price are not free.
“The few people in Western Europe who could read, even clerics, all read Latin, not Greek or Hebrew, so a Latin translation was necessary. “
Don’t forget that Saint Jerome had at his disposal resources not available to later translators, such as native speakers of Aramaic and Koine. The Vulgate should be a better translation than any that followed.
How many people today have heard that, when Jesus said to Saint Mary, “What is that to thee and me,” those words were a circulating joke like “Where’s the beef?” One wonders how much has been lost, whether through incompetence or malice.
“Although I was born too late to have lived in a pre-Vatican II world I was fortunate to have gone to schools where the nuns, and in HS, priests still informed us of the Latin Rite.”
My mother went to school with the nuns from 1917 through 1931. By the time she graduated with an Associate’s degree, she was completely familiar with liturgical Latin. She used to reminisce about how bad the girls thought they were for referring to the Te Deum as “the tedium.”
This business about not understanding the Latin in the liturgy may have applied to some small number of Catholics, but there was certainly no lack of assistance.
“That being said, years of service as as Prot church organist lead me to question why we don’t perform Mass in Aramaic if we’re going to be sticklers?”
Some do. We used to have some people here who went to an Aramaic Mass. However, it was in Rome that Christianity really grew, and for a number of reasons, Latin became the language of those who thought.
One thing I enjoyed was discovering that some prayers are actually poetry in the original Latin.
Look at the last syllable of each line:
Anima Christi, sanctifica me.
Corpus Christi, salva me.
Sanguis Christi, inebria me.
Aqua lateris Christi, lava me.
Passio Christi, conforta me.
O bone Iesu, exaudi me.
Intra tua vulnera absconde me.
Ne permittas me separari a te.
Ab hoste maligno defende me.
In hora mortis meae voca me.
Et iube me venire ad te,
Ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te
In saecula saeculorum.
Amen
That’s really beautiful. Trying to locate at a particular ave vermin. It is not Mozart.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QaodP0o8Si8
Arcade Lt is one of the many who composed an Ave Maria
My personal fave
While this is definitely true; the interpretation and practice of them certainly has shifted this way and that.
Et patrem nolite vocare vobis super terram:
'Tis because we are CATHOLIC; not Sticklers.
--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!)
Pity; since most LDS practices come from the D&C's and not the BoM.
ANY?
HMMMmmm...
It mattereth not; for when an apparition appears and speaks;
one is left wondering how much has been gained.
You're a dude? I would have figured you were female from your name. That's okay I guess.
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