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In came Latin, incense and burned books, out went half the parishioners
Natiional Catholic Reporter ^ | January 27, 2021 | Peter Feuerherd

Posted on 01/28/2021 5:30:10 PM PST by ebb tide

In came Latin, incense and burned books, out went half the parishioners

Post-Vatican II North Carolina Catholics seek a spiritual home

Religion scholar Maria Lichtmann felt a strangeness overcome St. Elizabeth of the Hill Country Parish in Boone, North Carolina, four years ago.

Fr. Matthew Codd, the then-pastor at St. Elizabeth's, was joined by a group of seminarians who went through the church's theology library and removed books deemed heretical, including those of spiritual writers Henri Nouwen and Thomas Merton. The books were later burned, she was told by a parish staff member.

Lichtmann, a retired religious studies professor at Appalachian State University, left the region in part, she told NCR, because of the changes in the parish. She now lives in Georgia.

"I felt it was a lost cause," she said about St. Elizabeth's.

The spirit of hyper-orthodoxy in parish leadership continued, noted Lichtmann, after Codd was replaced in July 2019 by Fr. Brendan Buckler.

Nearing 18 months since Buckler arrived, on the edge of Boone, a college town and popular retirement community in the mountain foothills, a few dozen now gather every other Sunday at a car restoration shop shared by a hospitable non-Catholic, the husband of a parishioner.

"Who sent you?" newcomers are asked, in part to assure that the gathering does not grow too large and violate the state's social distancing pandemic regulations. Another reason is that Massgoers fear that the leadership of the Diocese of Charlotte and of St. Elizabeth's will make life difficult for two visiting priests who celebrate the Mass or for parishioners who might want to return to St. Elizabeth's.

And then a common ritual is repeated. Mass is said, in English, with a priest facing the tiny congregation. A few popular hymns are sung. Communion is distributed in the hand, both because of a safety provision during the pandemic and because congregants like it that way, even if that approach is discouraged at St. Elizabeth's. Masks for protection in the pandemic are used, much in contrast to St. Elizabeth's, where the parish website proclaims that while masks are allowed, they are symbolic of anti-Christian attitudes not conducive to authentic Catholic life.

The informal Mass in the auto shop is necessary, parishioner Karen James told NCR, because "people have no alternative," as the nearest Catholic parish is at least 45 minutes' to an hour's drive away. In the hill country, there are relatively few Catholics, and some of those who remain experience a kind of spiritual homelessness. Many parishioners — she estimates about half of 300 active churchgoers who were there when Buckler began — have fled to local Protestant congregations or remain at home, sometimes catching a livestreamed Mass from Charlotte or former hometowns in the Northeast or Midwest. Many Catholics in the Boone area have roots in other parts of the country.

St. Elizabeth's parish now features three Masses in English each week, one in Spanish, and four in Latin and celebrated in the pre-Vatican II style, with the priest facing the altar instead of the congregation. While some have left, others, enamored of the traditional style liturgy, are now regulars. James notes that many of the cars in the parking lot have plates from out of state or out of the region.

During his tenure as pastor, Buckler has preached that parishioners had the moral obligation to vote for former President Donald Trump, skirted North Carolina pandemic regulations, and attracted a new set of parishioners from other parts of the diocese who now contribute to the support of what has become a traditionalist parish.

Buckler is among a number of pastors in the Charlotte Diocese who are dubbed restorationists, traditionalists, or, in some cases, rad-trads. They are often younger than other priests — Buckler was ordained in 2011 for the Raleigh Diocese — and they are trained in a liturgical tradition foreign to most Vatican II Catholics. Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte has invited them into his diocese and they now lead a number of parishes, much to the chagrin of some older clergy, who, mostly quietly, question their bishop's judgment. Jugis recently opened a junior seminary to help train future pastors in a similar mold.

The Charlotte  Diocese is not alone. While Pope Francis preaches an accompaniment for all spiritual seekers and castigates clericalism — he once described young priests who put a premium on enforcing church regulations as "little monsters" — seminaries in the U.S. continue to graduate priests for ordination who look not to Francis, but to Pope John Paul II for inspiration. It is a quiet, awkward and uneasy kind of schism in church practice and discipline.

Many traditionalist seminarians seek training in regular seminary classes. But on their own time, they follow leaders such as Taylor Marshall and Church Militant, both anti-Francis websites.

"It's an alternative magisterium," Fr. Tim Kelly, a pastor in the Diocese of Tyler, Texas, told NCR. Kelly was formerly a teacher of homiletics and patristics at St. Mary's Seminary in Houston, where he observed how seminarians, after classes, would flock to social media for instruction on liturgical rubrics and moral doctrine.

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Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte, North Carolina (CNS/Courtesy of the Charlotte Diocese)

Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte, North Carolina (CNS/Courtesy of the Charlotte Diocese)

While the faculty at St. Mary's offers a curriculum much in line with Vatican II teachings, said Kelly, seminarians are often inclined to go online, where they are presented with an alternative vision. There they are told that Francis is failing to proclaim church teaching, that most bishops are lacking in orthodoxy, and that it will be up to new, younger priests to rescue the church from its shortcomings.

"This thing has been coming out of the cult of John Paul," said Kelly, who noted that many of the seminarians discount the focus of Francis and his efforts to renew the church.

Franciscan Sr. Katarina Schuth, professor emerita at the Seminaries of St. Paul in Minnesota, has spent decades analyzing seminarians and authored numerous articles and books on the subject.

She said the faculties of most seminaries now have few professors, much less students, who have a lived experience of Vatican II. That transformation in the church is seen as something for the history books.

Seminary rectors are appointed by their local bishops, many of whom were formed during the John Paul II era. With a premium based on loyalty, many of those rectors were moved up to become bishops themselves during the John Paul and Benedict eras, noted Schuth.

While bishops became more conservative and tradition-minded, so have their seminary students, said Schuth.

"They want certainty. They want answers," she said, noting that they prefer to gloss over complicated issues of moral theology and other concerns. They also prefer the power granted to pre-Vatican II clergy and look forward to running parishes on their own terms.

Today's seminarians, said Schuth, are part of an overall generational cohort that is more likely to be liberal and secular. These conservative seminarians are set apart in many ways from their peers, with a strong focus on evangelizing their age group members into traditional Catholic ways. They latch on to traditional modes and symbols, such as the wearing of elaborate cassocks. She said they will exert influence on the church as more are ordained.

"It's a small number, but they are not insignificant because they tend to be active," she said of today's more tradition-minded seminarians. They immerse themselves in conservative Catholic media sites such as EWTN, Life Site News and Church Militant.

Their politics also tend to the conservative. Many supported former President Donald Trump. Their vision of church social teaching is limited, said Schuth.

"It's all about abortion, nothing else matters," she said about their politics.

Once ordained, they receive support from a number of bishops, including Jugis of Charlotte, who has welcomed priests from outside the diocese to implement a more traditional approach in parishes. Some run into conflicts with their parishioners, used to having input on church ministry. In areas such as metropolitan Charlotte, there is heavy "parish shopping," as Catholics wander around seeking out a liturgical and church governance style best suited to them, said diocesan priests interviewed by NCR.

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Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte, North Carolina, prays during the formal opening and blessing of St. Joseph College Seminary near Mount Holly, North Carolina, Sept. 15, 2020. (CNS/Catholic News Herald/SueAnn Howell)

Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte, North Carolina, prays during the formal opening and blessing of St. Joseph College Seminary near Mount Holly, North Carolina, Sept. 15, 2020. (CNS/Catholic News Herald/SueAnn Howell)

In some diocesan parishes, there is a stickler approach to church rules and regulations, far beyond what is normal practice, said one diocesan priest who requested anonymity to avoid a public disagreement with his boss, the bishop. For example: Codd, now pastor at St. Thomas Aquinas Church in Charlotte, has asked that all who were baptized in his church in recent years be rebaptized because the proper Vatican mandated formula — the preferred saying is "I baptize" — was not used. Previously a deacon in the parish might have used a formula that began "we baptize."

But parish shopping is not an easy matter in isolated Boone. Parishioners who seek out the liturgy they have grown up with since Vatican II have few alternatives. A number have joined the local Lutheran and Episcopal churches.

While the complaints largely focus on differences in liturgical styles, they also spill over into disputes about how the parish is run, the role of laypeople, particularly women, and the transparency of financial information about the church. St. Elizabeth's parish hasn't released a financial report in five years, said James, and the parish council hasn't met since Buckler became pastor.

"He is taking us back to pre-Vatican II," Mary Benson Farthing, a former parishioner, said. She now goes to Mass at another Catholic parish 25 miles away.

For those parishioners raised during the advent of the Mass in the vernacular experienced in post-Vatican II parishes, there is opposition. Farthing was in her 20s during the Vatican II years.

"Having lived through the 1950s, I don't think I want to go back to that," she said.

A parishioner who wished to remain anonymous for fear of alienating parishioners supportive of Buckler, said, "There is no joy in going to Mass anymore. So many of our parishioners have left."

Buckler has intruded on the spiritual development of parishioners, Farthing said. A parish Bible study group, using the Little Rock guide popular in many parishes, was told to cease. The series was not orthodox enough, they were told.

Jack Hellenbrand came to Boone 16 years ago from Wisconsin. Buckler has disturbed aesthetic sensibilities through his changes, he told NCR. Many older parishioners were part of renovating the church and establishing a simple wooden altar, created to blend visually into the landscape of the Appalachians.

Buckler put in giant candles on the altar, in what Hellenbrand described as a "Counter-Reformation" touch, common in German churches (Hellenbrand, 53, is a teacher of German). "It is not the look of a modern church which melds with the natural beauty of North Carolina," he said.

"It all goes back to the Counter-Reformation. I have a huge problem with that because I have an historical sense," said Hellenbrand.

Lichtmann noted that Buckler made sure there were no more girl altar servers, and at times he was accompanied by six male servers, setting a sign that pre-Vatican II ritual was to be the norm among the Catholics of Boone.

Soon after he arrived, the incense was so intense that the fire department was called as a church smoke alarm got tripped, she said. Lay ministers to the sick and homebound were eliminated, replaced by Buckler.

Letters of complaint have been sent by James and other participants in the informal alternative Mass group. Recipients included Jugis, Archbishop Gregory Hartmayer of Atlanta, the metropolitan for the region, and Archbishop Christophe Pierre, the apostolic nuncio. No one responded to her letters, said James. Buckler, Codd and Jugis declined to speak to NCR for this article.

Andi Peters, another former St. Elizabeth parishioner, said the parish has ceased to be a friendly, supportive environment.

Buckler, she said, "would prefer to speak in a dead language. It was a welcoming place, and it has become an unwelcoming place." During the pandemic, the lack of masks during Mass has become a kind of cultural symbol, a position popular with some right-wing groups who question methods used to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

"It shows a brazen lack of awareness that the rules don't matter, that keeping people safe is not what matters," said Peters. The preached theology is often strange, said Peters, who noted that one Christmas, Buckler explained that the incarnation did not include Jesus actually being birthed but that he arrived into the world in a non-physical way.

Not everyone at St. Elizabeth's is opposed to Buckler's approach. Parishioner Tom Trueman credited the pastor for being meticulous with liturgy. "There's more piety that I've ever seen shown to the Eucharist," he said.

Julie Trueman, his wife, said there is too much discord in the parish and there should be more unity shown by those opposed to Buckler. St. Elizabeth's is the only Catholic church in the community, surrounded by dozens of Baptist congregations of various sorts. Parishioners note that Catholics in the region remain a small minority, despite a growth in transplants from the Northeast and Midwest over recent years.

"The Catholic Church does not need this in this day and age," she said, citing those who have chosen to worship at the local Lutheran and Episcopal congregations.

Fr. John Hoover, who ministers from a small monastic community in Mount Holly, North Carolina, is one of two priests who occasionally come to Boone to celebrate Mass with those who have fled St. Elizabeth's. They meet in the garage, amid some half dozen 1950s remodeled cars, gathered around a simple sewing table decorated with candles and flowers. After the homily, Hoover invites participants to talk about their own spiritual struggles, sometimes hearing about the issues raised at the parish. Social distance is maintained and a collection is taken up to pay the expenses for Hoover and another priest, who travel more than two hours each way to celebrate the Mass.

Hoover told NCR the Mass is "a regular Vatican II liturgy with good hymns and a happy atmosphere." It's not so happy over at St. Elizabeth's, he said, as some parishioners choose the garage Mass with its familiar tone over what they perceive as a liturgical blast from a distant past now ensconced in the structure they helped build overlooking the Appalachian hills.

Peters is among those who miss the community, which she has been a part of for more than 18 years. She now watches a livestream Mass from her hometown parish in Illinois.

"There is no community," she said about the situation at the Boone parish. "We no longer have that. With the pandemic, it's another factor of grief in our cap. We have lost our community."

Lichtmann, from her new home in Georgia, also expressed regret, noting that she needed to escape the region to find the kind of post-Vatican II liturgical life taken for granted in most of the country. That is no longer possible in Boone and in many places in the Charlotte Diocese.

"It's beyond the one parish," she told NCR. "It's the diocese."



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To: livius

Our tlm parish is doing well too.


21 posted on 01/28/2021 6:45:43 PM PST by FreshPrince (P )
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To: KDF48
Wasn’t the purpose of the Vulgate in Latin so the people of that generation could read in their language?

Mmm...not really, the emphasis wasn't on the Bible text so much as the Christian liturgy. Throughout most of Christian history, people were illiterate and couldn't read even in their own language.

That, and handcopied books were fantastically expensive. In the Middle Ages, they cost about as much as a house.

22 posted on 01/28/2021 6:45:52 PM PST by Claud
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To: Governor Dinwiddie; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; ...
How can any religious precepts be "hyper-orthodox". Either a religious belief is orthodox or it's a different religion.

True, and most are drifting South (and Catholicism is already there), but you can get into hair-splitting

For example: Codd, now pastor at St. Thomas Aquinas Church in Charlotte, has asked that all who were baptized in his church in recent years be rebaptized because the proper Vatican mandated formula — the preferred saying is "I baptize" — was not used. Previously a deacon in the parish might have used a formula that began "we baptize."

23 posted on 01/28/2021 6:48:24 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Every song sounds as if it were written for a ten-year-old girl. It’s like a Disney musical.


24 posted on 01/28/2021 6:49:22 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: Ouderkirk
To be honest, nearly EVERY church that It have been to of late (friends and their children’s special occasions) has me leaving the service thinking “WTF was THAT ?!?!”.

The most liberal ones are usually those which are closest to Catholicism.

25 posted on 01/28/2021 6:50:49 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

While on vacation in Florida in 2005 we went to a local church for Sunday Mass. No kneelers at all and after communion the priest asks the children to process up for a blessing while they played - wait for it - It’s a Small World After All. I kid you not, during Mass.


26 posted on 01/28/2021 6:54:40 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: stanne

I used to have a cd of the Benedictine Monks of Santo Domingo de Silos. Very relaxing to listen to their chants.


27 posted on 01/28/2021 6:58:19 PM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Ouderkirk
nearly EVERY church that It have been to of late (friends and their children’s special occasions) has me leaving the service thinking “WTF was THAT ?!?!”

A few years ago a Freeper posted about taking his hard of hearing father to mass. The mass was a "new" mass with guitars and no Latin. At some point after the mass began. a woman came out and began her 'spiritual dancing' accompanied by guitar music.

When the spiritual dance was finished, the Freeper's hard-of-hearing father said it a loud voice, " What the hell was that?"

Even the priest got laughing over that.

28 posted on 01/28/2021 6:59:58 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: daniel1212

That’s not hair splitting. That’s a serious defect of form.


29 posted on 01/28/2021 7:03:08 PM PST by Romulus
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To: MomwithHope

A couple years ago we went to mass at the church I grew up in. It’s in another state. The elementary school, which once taught 800 pupils, now boasts 160. This in an area notorious for its crappy public schools. They were promoting the school on a slide show during the mass.

Once of the slides showed the children performing some sort of Buddhist meditation. I remember when I was there, we had a deeply spiritual meditation. We called it The Rosary.


30 posted on 01/28/2021 7:09:01 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: Spacetrucker

At this very moment I am listening to Gregorian Chants sung by Monks of the Abbey of St Ottilien, Germany.


31 posted on 01/28/2021 7:10:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s a daily around here.


32 posted on 01/28/2021 7:14:23 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Spacetrucker

I have that CD, and I often play it as I say my morning prayers.


33 posted on 01/28/2021 7:27:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: KDF48
Wasn’t the purpose of the Vulgate in Latin so the people of that generation could read in their language?

That is correct. While it is true that most people were illiterate at the time of the creation of the Vulgate (in fact, the world never approached anything close to universal basic literacy until the late 19th century), the people who could read, read Latin.

34 posted on 01/28/2021 7:39:46 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Romulus
That’s not hair splitting. That’s a serious defect of form.

Meaning that rather than baptizing as member of the priesthood of all believers, for "we (true believers) are all baptized into one body" then "I" must be used as representing Christ, although He rarely baptized. Yet I do think "I" should be the standard as this how it is described such as in " I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other." (1 Corinthians 1:16) Yet not as making all those who were baptized as "we baptize" as needing to be baptized again, and also rendering the ordination of one who was baptized thusly to be invalid, as well as his sacramental acts (except baptism, which is contradictory) as in this case: https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/09/why-the-words-of-baptism-matter

But of course, those who believe that they became Christians thru Catholic baptism by Catholicism's unscriptural priests even without the Biblical requirement of whole-hearted repentant faith (Acts 2:38; 8:36,37) and thereby regenerated by the acts itself (ex opere operato “from the work having been worked") and thus made good enough to be with God at the moment (but which usually means needing to later go to Purgatory to attain that state) are subjects of a tragic deception.

And which is only one of the distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

It is effectual, penitent heart-purifying regenerating faith that is needed, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) and which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) whereby the redeemed soul is "accepted in the Beloved" (Ephesians 1:6) on His account and thus is marked be obedience. (1 Thes. 1; Heb. 6:9,10) And the same will go to be with the Lord at death or at His return (Luke 23:43 [cf. 2 Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff; 1Thess. 4:17 ) if they have preserved in faith. (Heb. 3:9-14; 10:25-39; Gal. 5:1-4) Glory and thanks be to God.

35 posted on 01/28/2021 7:57:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: ebb tide

“the parish website proclaims that while masks are allowed, they are symbolic of anti-Christian attitudes not conducive to authentic Catholic life.”

False - neither the website nor its Jan 13 Wayback Machine snapshot say that.


36 posted on 01/28/2021 8:10:20 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: ebb tide
Lay ministers to the sick and homebound were eliminated, replaced by Buckler.

Not a Roman Catholic expert (convent school does not count) but why would this be a problem?

Lay ministers should only be used if a priest or deacon is not available. He was and he apparently did do the job. IIRC there are a number of things a lay minister can not do that a priest can.

I do not understand the issue.

37 posted on 01/28/2021 8:19:08 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: Claud; KDF48
>>Wasn’t the purpose of the Vulgate in Latin so the people of that generation could read in their language?>>

Mmm...not really, the emphasis wasn't on the Bible text so much as the Christian liturgy. Throughout most of Christian history, people were illiterate and couldn't read even in their own language.

I disagree. The Holy Scriptures were the foundation upon which the liturgy was built. Jerome's commission by the Roman church to translate the Hebrew and Greek texts into Latin was precisely for the purpose of individual knowledge and study. There were other translations in different languages that existed then and continued to be others. The New Testament was written in Koine Greek because it was the lingua franca of that time.

I think the idea that everyone was illiterate is a common misconception that many people just accept. We shouldn't forget the many, many times Scripture encourages believers to study the word, to hear it and to obey what God has revealed and preserved in the written word. Also, the first Christians were Jews and it was customary that they could read and write. From https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2019/02/19/were-jesus-the-apostles-and-the-early-christians-illiterate-uneducated/ we learn:

    Literacy and Early Jewish Education

    During the first seven years of Christianity (29-36 C.E.), three and a half with Jesus’ ministry and three and a half after his ascension, only Jewish people became disciples of Christ and formed the newly founded Christian congregation. In 36 C.E. the first gentile was baptized: Cornelius.[7] From that time forward Gentiles came into the Christian congregations. However, the church still consisted largely of Jewish converts. What do we know of the Jewish family, as far as education? Within the nation of Israel, everyone was strongly encouraged to be literate. The texts of Deuteronomy 6:8-9 and 11:20 were figurative (not to be taken literally). However, we are to ascertain what was meant by the figurative language, and that meaning is what we take literally.

      Deuteronomy 6:8-9 English Standard Version (ESV)

      8 You shall bind them [God’s Word] as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

      Deuteronomy 11:20 English Standard Version (ESV)

      20 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates,

    The command to bind God’s Word “as a sign on your hand,” denoted constant remembrance and attention. The command that the Word of God was “to be as frontlet bands between your eyes,” denoted that the Law should be kept before their eyes constantly, so that wherever they looked, whatever was before them, they would see the law before them. Therefore, while figurative, these texts implied that Jewish children grew up being taught how to read and to write. The Gezer Calendar (ancient Hebrew writing), dated to the 10th-century B.C.E., is believed by some scholars to be a schoolboy’s memory exercise.

    Philo of Alexandria (20 B.C.E.–50 C. E.) a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher, whose first language was Greek, had this to say about Jewish parents and how they taught their Children the Law and how to read it. Philo stated, “All men guard their own customs, but this is especially true of the Jewish nation. Holding that the laws are oracles vouchsafed by God and having been trained [paideuthentes] in this doctrine from their earliest years, they carry the likenesses of the commandments enshrined in their souls.” (Borgen 1997, 187) This certainly involved the ability to read and write at a competent level. Josephus (37-100 C.E.), the first-century Jewish historian, writes, “Our principle care of all is this, to educate our children [paidotrophian] well; and we think it to be the most necessary business of our whole life to observe the laws that have been given us, and to keep those rules of piety that have been delivered down to us.” (Whiston 1987, Against Apion 1.60) Even allowing for an overemphasis for apologetic purposes; clearly, Jesus was carefully grounded in the Word of God (Hebrew Old Testament), as was true of other Jews of the time. Josephus also says,

    “but for our people, if anybody do but ask any one of them about our laws, he will more readily tell them all than he will tell his own name, and this in consequence of our having learned them immediately as soon as ever we became sensible of anything, and of our having them, as it were engraven on our souls. Our transgressors of them are but few; and it is impossible when any do offend, to escape punishment.” (Whiston 1987, Against Apion 2.178) He also says: “[the Law] also commands us to bring those children up in learning [grammata paideuein] and to exercise them in the laws, and make them acquainted with the acts of their predecessors, in order to their imitation of them, and that they may be nourished up in the laws from their infancy, and might neither transgress them nor yet have any pretense for their ignorance of them.” (Whiston 1987, Against Apion 2.204) Again, this clearly involves at a minimum the ability to read and write at a competent level.

    From the above, we find that the Jewish family education revolved around the study of the Mosaic Law. If their children were going to live by the Law, they needed to know what it says, as well as understand it. If they were going to know and understand the Law, this would require the ability to read it, and hopefully apply it. Emil Schurer writes: “All zeal for education in the family, the school and the synagogue aimed at making the whole people a people of the law. The common man too was to know what the law commanded, and not only to know but to do it. His whole life was to be ruled according to the norm of the law; obedience thereto was to become a fixed custom, and departure therefrom an inward impossibility. On the whole, this object was to a great degree attained.” (Schurer 1890, Vol. 4, p. 89) Scott writes that “from at least the time of Ezra’s reading of the law (Neh. 8), education was a public process; study of the law was the focus of Jewish society as a whole. It was a lifelong commitment to all men. It began with the very young. The Mishnah[8] requires that children be taught ‘therein one year or two years before [they are of age], that they may become versed in the commandments.’ Other sources set different ages for beginning formal studies, some as early as five years.”[9] (Scott 1995, 257)

    It may be that both Philo and Josephus are presenting their readers with an idyllic picture, and what they have to say could possibly refer primarily to wealthy Jewish families who could afford formal education. However, this would be shortsighted, for the Israelites had long been a people who valued the ability to read and write competently. In the apocryphal account of 4 Maccabees 18:10-19, a mother addresses her seven sons, who would be martyred, reminding them of their father’s teaching. There is nothing in the account to suggest that they were from a wealthy family. Herein the mother referred to numerous historical characters throughout the Old Testament and quoted from numerous books – Isaiah 43.2; Psalm 34:19; Proverbs 3:18; Ezekiel 37:3; Deuteronomy 32:39.

    Jesus would have received his education from three sources. As was made clear from the above, Joseph, Jesus’ stepfather would have played a major role in his education. Paul said that young Timothy was trained in “the sacred writings” by his mother, Eunice, and his grandmother Lois. (2 Tim. 1:5; 3:15) Certainly, if Timothy received education in the law from his mother because his Father was a Greek (Acts 16:1), no doubt Jesus did as well after Joseph died.

    Jesus would have also received education in the Scriptures from the attendant at the synagogue. In the first-century C.E., the synagogue was a place of instruction, not a place of sacrifices. The people carried out their sacrifices to God at the temple. The exercises within the synagogue covered such areas as praise, prayer, and recitation and reading of the Scriptures, in addition to expository preaching. – Mark 12:40; Luke 20:47

    Before any instruction in the holy laws and unwritten customs are taught… from their swaddling clothes by parents and teachers and educators to believe in God, the one Father, and Creator of the world. (Philo Legatio ad Gaium 115.)


38 posted on 01/28/2021 9:03:34 PM PST by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: ebb tide

National Catholic Reporter is a liberal rag that still thinks it’s the 1960’s. Rad Trads don’t abort or contracept. They win!


39 posted on 01/28/2021 9:05:31 PM PST by Trump_Triumphant ( Trump will always be my President, and Jesus Christ will always be my Lord)
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LOL, the "Vatican mandated formula" ?? Look it up: every traditional Christian church, at least until the 1960s, used the same "Vatican mandated" formula "N, I baptize you in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Lutherans did, Anglicans did, Orthodox certainly still do, etc.

There's no such thing as a sacrament that is administered by a group ("we") to an individual. THe minister of a sacrament stands in the place of Christ. Christ is not a committee.

40 posted on 01/28/2021 9:24:07 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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