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Holiday Origins: Is Christmas a pagan holiday?
Christian Post ^ | 12/12/2020 | John Stonestreet and G. Shane Morris

Posted on 12/12/2020 9:32:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Several years ago, in a documentary called “Religulous” (clever, right?), Bill Maher claimed that most of the story of Christ, especially the parts about His birth, were cribbed from pagan mythology. After all, Maher claimed, the Egyptian God Horus was born of a virgin on December 25th, was baptized, had twelve disciples, performed miracles, and ultimately died and rose again. Christianity, said Maher, is nothing but a cheap knockoff.

The problem is, as numerous critics have pointed out, Maher’s claims are complete nonsense. No original source material backs up his description of Horus or, for that matter, of Mithras or Krishna, two other deities Maher claims early Christians copied.

As ridiculous as “Religulous” is, some of its same claims about the origins of Christian holidays remain and tend to surface most at Christmas time. For example, how and when did the Church determine that date of December 25th? Was it to compete with the Roman festival of Saturnalia? And what about trees, and gifts, and lights? Where did all of that come from? And, what about those pagan stories that resemble Christ, of sons of the gods and “corn kings” who die and rise again?

Recently, historian and long-time friend of the Colson Center, Dr. Glenn Sunshine joined Shane Morris to talk about these things on the Upstream podcast. During his conversation with Shane, Dr. Sunshine answered some of the core questions about Christmas.

For instance, Sunshine argued that December 25th was not chosen as the date for Christmas in order to co-opt a pagan solstice festival. More likely, it was based on an ancient Jewish belief that people are conceived on the date of their deaths. Since Christ died on or around March 25th, some Church Fathers believed that Christ must have been conceived on that day and born nine months later… December 25th.

Was this Jesus’ actual birthday? No one knows, of course. Still, the choice to celebrate Christ’s birth at the end of December reflects a “sacramental” view of reality, which Christians have held through the ages.

In this more “enchanted” perception of the world, one that held sway in the Early and Medieval Church, nature itself was understood to have signified the life of Christ. The visible death of winter—the withering of the leaves, the dormancy of the ground, and the longer nights—symbolized to many Christians of centuries past the death Jesus came to die. The turning of the seasons and the increase in daylight symbolized the dawning of the Light of the World in a manger.

Many of our traditions, like Christmas trees, probably began as symbols of life in the midst of death. Dr. Sunshine suggests that this mingling of symbols of atonement with the joyous news of the Savior’s birth can even be detected in the Gospel narratives. For instance, could those swaddling clothes be the burial cloth Joseph carried with him in case of death?

Even more, the pagan myths that atheists often exaggerate to attack Christianity, Dr. Sunshine thinks, offer tantalizing echoes of Christ in other religions. C. S. Lewis also recognized this when he wrote in Mere Christianity of what he called “good dreams,” or “those queer stories scattered all through the heathen religions about a god who dies and comes to life again and, by his death, has somehow given new life to men.”

For Lewis, these echoes were not evidence of religious plagiarism, but that Christ is the “true myth,” the waking reality behind these “good dreams.” To celebrate Christmas well, focused on Christ as opposed to “stuff,” we do more than repeat old traditions. We are glorifying the King of Kings who came to save His people from darkness and make all things new.

You can get Shane’s podcast with Glenn Sunshine at breakpoint.org, and the latest “What Would You Say” video tackles this same question, “Is Christmas a Pagan Holiday?” Watch it as a family, share it on social media, or with your church to help others answer this question that still stumps too many of us.


TOPICS: History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christmas; holiday; origins; pagan
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To: Jolla

At that time, Christmas was a Catholic event/holiday (ChristMAS = ChristMASS). The Pilgrims believed Catholicism to be pagan, so avoided that “holiday”. The history is so interesting!


21 posted on 12/12/2020 10:20:55 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: aimhigh

That is on the parents. I was taught about Jesus before the others. I was taught the meaning of Christmas and Easter. We did Santa, Easter Bunny and tooth fairy but my parents did not make a big deal out of them. We were not taken to see Santa or Easter Bunny. Big presents came from my parents...Santa brought little things but mostly filled our stocking.


22 posted on 12/12/2020 10:22:04 AM PST by Tammy8 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
Hollywood created the event we have now; comes from the movie "White Christmas" with Bing Crosby during WW2 for moral purposes - there was that X amount of shopping days before Christmas nonsense as well.

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23 posted on 12/12/2020 10:22:59 AM PST by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe it was, but what it is today is not what is may have been.

Goodwill to all men and peace on Earth isn’t so bad.


24 posted on 12/12/2020 10:28:32 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: All
1. The problem is, as numerous critics have pointed out, Maher’s claims are complete nonsense.
2.Was this Jesus’ actual birthday? No one knows, of course. Still, the choice to celebrate Christ’s birth at the end of December reflects a “sacramental” view of reality

If we stick with the Bible, we can't go wrong. No mention of Jesus and the Disciples celebrating Christmas (or Easter for that matter) so I think it's optional but not Biblical. I lean towards Festivus.

25 posted on 12/12/2020 10:49:25 AM PST by BipolarBob (Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you ammo. That's pretty much the same thing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this. The urban myth that Christmas is of pagan origin gets tiresome to say the least.

As for gifts, I believe that some of this is due to Luther, who conflated St. Nicholas’ feast day with Christmas to avoid seeming to worship a mortal, however worthy.

Whatever, I live in a small house in a very very blue city and have over 150 strands of lights outside as we speak.

(ten blue ones make up an Israeli flag because, well, why not?)


26 posted on 12/12/2020 10:56:51 AM PST by PlateOfShrimp (c)
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To: SeekAndFind

Christmas was banned here as a Popish pagan holiday until the 1860s.


27 posted on 12/12/2020 11:14:42 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: aimhigh
After slowing realizing these characters were all fairy tales

How dare you BLASPHFEMER you will feel the wrath of the tooth ferry. Santa doesn't like you either.

28 posted on 12/12/2020 11:20:45 AM PST by usurper ( version )
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To: kaehurowing
Christmas banned in colonial New England
29 posted on 12/12/2020 11:29:12 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
Christmas banned in colonial New England
30 posted on 12/12/2020 11:29:12 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: MayflowerMadam
I know the Pilgrims believed it to be pagan and would not celebrate.

The Puritans believed that but the Pilgrims were Brownist. I seem to remember that they celebrated Christmas the first year by opening a barrel of beer.

31 posted on 12/12/2020 11:48:10 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: shineon
Saturnalian was one of the very few days slaves and the lower class would all have off at the same time.

The majority of early Christians were in those two classes so it is not surprising that they would have used their precious free time to celebrate the birth of Jesus.

32 posted on 12/12/2020 11:50:29 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind

F Bill Maher.


33 posted on 12/12/2020 11:52:07 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Right. Overall, compared to Puritans, the Pilgrims were a bit bawdy.


34 posted on 12/12/2020 11:53:36 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: MayflowerMadam
I think I would have fit in much better with the Pilgrims.

The Puritans were a bit Toffee Nosed for me.

35 posted on 12/12/2020 11:58:04 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

It celebrates the birth of Jesus.


36 posted on 12/12/2020 12:21:47 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: aimhigh

I hear stupid liberals say the same thing all the time.


37 posted on 12/12/2020 12:22:34 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

A Pagan holiday? No. It does share a couple of traits of one though, namely the tree. That is definitely a Pagan thing.


38 posted on 12/12/2020 2:24:24 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The holiday itself? No. The decorations, traditions, and festivities? Well just how many pine trees do you see in the Middle East? It’s not called a Yule log for nothing.


39 posted on 12/12/2020 2:28:12 PM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: Vermont Lt

Except NONE of the Christmas traditions come from that time. And really since most of them come from Germanic country they sure wouldn’t have hidden anybody in the Mediterranean in plain sight.


40 posted on 12/12/2020 2:30:37 PM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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