Posted on 08/12/2020 8:40:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Houston physician and pastor Stella Immanuel – described as “spectacular” by Donald Trump for her promotion of unsubstantiated claims about anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a “cure” for COVID-19 – has some other, very unconventional views.
As well as believing that scientists are working on a vaccine to make people less religious and that the U.S. government is run by reptilian creatures, Immanuel, the leader of a Christian ministry called Fire Power Ministries, also believes sex with demons causes miscarriages, impotence, cysts and endometriosis, among other maladies.
It has opened her up to much ridicule. But, as a scholar of early Christianity, I am aware that the belief that demons – or fallen angels – regularly have sex with humans runs deep in the Jewish and Christian traditions.
The earliest account of demon sex in Jewish and Christian traditions comes from the Book of Genesis, which details the origins of the world and the early history of humanity. Genesis says that, prior to the flood of Noah, fallen angels mated with women to produce a race of giants.
The brief mention of angels breeding with human women contains few details. It was left to later writers to fill in the gaps.
In the third century B.C., the “Book of the Watchers,” an apocalyptic vision written in the name of a mysterious character named Enoch mentioned in Genesis, expanded on this intriguing tale. In this version, the angels, or the “Watchers,” not only have sex with women and birth giants, but also teach humans magic, the arts of luxury and knowledge of astrology. This knowledge is commonly associated in the ancient world with the advancement of human civilization.
The “Book of the Watchers” suggests that fallen angels are the source of human civilization.
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WHAT does Dr. Immanuel’s religious beliefs have to do with her medical expertise? This is simply a hit piece. It’s garbage - absolute 100% racist garbage thinly disguised as a news story.
I don’t care if she believes in VOODOO, it has nothing to do with her medical qualifications. NOTHING! Postings like this are simply offensive and insulting.
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Exactly.
Are there not Mormons who are doctors who have saved lives? (I don’t want to get into a religious debate—but Mormons do have beliefs many mainstream Christians do not share.)
Are there not Muslims who are doctors who have saved lives?
Are there not Hindus who are doctors who have saved lives?
Buddhists?
Of the latter two, is belief in reincarnation and thousands of gods that far out there compared to belief in demons?
Lots of Christians believe in demons. Is it a stretch to think demons would rape a person?
RE: An honest and capable doctor would publish her results for review by her peers.
Well, how do we know that the cases she mentioned are not available for people to see?
1) Do her patients give her permission to mention their names?
2) If these are all fake or non-existent cases, isn’t this grounds for suspension of license? If so, why isn’t her license suspended yet?
And BTW, she isn’t the only frontline doctor making similar claims, are all those standing next to her all presenting fake cases too?
What of the high profile cases OPENLY testified to by Paul Vallone, Councilman at New York City and Michigan lawmaker Karen Whitsett, infected with COVID-19, who crediting the controversial anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine with saving her life?
Are they fake cases too?
And look at what happened to Ms. Whitsett after she came out and testified about her own case? She was censored by her own party and support for her withdrawn.
Ping as per your request
Because there is no evidence that I'm aware of indicating that she did. She certainly hasn't indicated that she has.
And BTW, she isn’t the only frontline doctor making similar claims, are all those standing next to her all presenting fake cases too?
No way of knowing. There have been a lot of studies offered for review indicating that HCQ doesn't help. But there have also been studies offered for peer review saying that it does. Why doesn't Dr. Immanuel and these others do the same?
RE: But there have also been studies offered for peer review saying that it does. Why doesn’t Dr. Immanuel and these others do the same?
There are two possibilities... these doctors are lying or these doctors are telling the truth.
If the former, they are scammers and the most despicable people in society. Their licenses to practice should be revoked for lying.
If the latter, they are heroes trying to do what’s best for patients in the face of all the attacks they are facing from many powerful sources. They are willing to face vilification to show that an effective treatment exists for a dreaded disease.
So, next question why haven’t they submitted their cases for peer review, you ask.
Firstly, let’s get one thing out of the way... their purpose in coming out publicly is to demand that the powers that be not be obstacles for them to prescribe a drug that they observe works for their patients.
Secondly, these doctors presented their cases in two hour long videos on YouTube, Facebook and in their own website.
ALL WERE TAKEN DOWN! Even their own web provider took down their website!
How do you expect them to present their cases with these wholesale, coordinated blocking of what they want to show?
What about demanding that they at least be heard so that skeptical peers can critique their presentations instead of silencing them?
Well, this is a new way to attack President Trump. He once said something nice about a complete fruitcase. Something that had nothing to do with her very odd beliefs.
Please do, Cheshire!
RE: He once said something nice about a complete fruitcase
Define the word — “complete” for me as it applies to this doctor.
Yeah, Yeah!
I vaguely remember something about that.
Rising from the dead; pretty creepy, if you ask me!
And as for a new way to attack the president, calling him and other people in his office “reptilian” takes the cake.
What happened to you has happened to other people.
I watch a lot of television shows about the paranormal and feeling crushed and unable to speak or even breathe is a fairly common occurrence.
It must have been a deeply frightening experience.
It was. I was genuinely frightened.
I don’t scare easily, (well not at the time, I’ve since had a head injury that causes some paranoia and delusions).
I was raised not to believe in ghosts, disembodied human spirits, but demons are within my beliefs.
My mom could sense things In the spirit realm.
We were looking at a house and as soon she walked across the thresh hold she said out loud, “somebody died in this house”; when she talked to some of the neighbors we found that several people had died there.
Mom was not interested and we left.
I did not dispute that demons are real. I don’t think that they have sex people while the person sleeps.
She’s nuts
Stella Immanuel is a human honey badger. Ain’t no one going to tell a honey badger what to do. If honey badger wants, honey badger is going to get it.
Doctors from around the world have used the hydroxychloroquine cocktail and hundreds of thousands have been cured.
She has no bias. On the other hand 8 of 10 on an advisory panel claiming there is no evidence hat it works have financial ties to the pharma company that make Remdesivir. You don’t think that is a problem?
It is a tradition that is taken from the pagans. There is nothing in Scripture that supports the idea that Demons or Angels can have sex with humans and even less that they are capable of any sort of reproduction.
In fact the words of Jesus ("At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew 22:30) strongly suggests that Angels and Demons do not reproduce at all.
The idea that angels and demons had sex with humans before the flood is an attempt to rationalize the flood as something other then what it was. We do not like to think of people as truly wicked for some reason and so we search for some other reason.
Many people take the idea further by pushing the blasphemy that God failed and the flood did not wipe out these imaginary hybrids. It allows them to imagine that some people are "not quite people" and there by provides a rationalization for mistreating them or an excuse for their misdeeds other then the wickedness of the human heart.
’ American Muslims have a substantial presence in the health care industry. The Islamic Medical Association of North America, one of many such organizations,estimates that there are more than 20,000 Muslim physicians in the United States. Similarly, an analysis of statistics provided by the American Medical Association indicatesthat 10% of all American physicians are Muslims. ‘
http://www.chicagonow.com/midwestern-muslim/2014/01/muslims-dont-contribute-to-america-think-again/
Are you suggesting that muslims are also nuts and shouldn’t study, nor qualify to practice medicine because their religion instructs them to throw homosexuals off tall buildings, and that women need to be beaten? Or any one of the revolting, reprehensible edicts that require its followers to perform in their worship and emulation of Muhammad?
Tell me, in your opinion, as a ‘professor’ as you claim to be, what is a human being first of all? A member of a religion that he or she was probably born into, or is he or she a practitioner of a profession, that long study and qualification has enabled them to practice?
Sounds like sleep paralysis.
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