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Regarding the Hydroxychloroquine Doctor, Stella Immanuel: The belief that demons have sex with humans runs deep in Christian and Jewish traditions
The Conversation via Yahoo News ^ | 08/12/2020 | Cavan W. Concannon, Associate Professor of Religion, University of Southern California

Posted on 08/12/2020 8:40:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Houston physician and pastor Stella Immanuel – described as “spectacular” by Donald Trump for her promotion of unsubstantiated claims about anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a “cure” for COVID-19 – has some other, very unconventional views.

As well as believing that scientists are working on a vaccine to make people less religious and that the U.S. government is run by reptilian creatures, Immanuel, the leader of a Christian ministry called Fire Power Ministries, also believes sex with demons causes miscarriages, impotence, cysts and endometriosis, among other maladies.

It has opened her up to much ridicule. But, as a scholar of early Christianity, I am aware that the belief that demons – or fallen angels – regularly have sex with humans runs deep in the Jewish and Christian traditions.

The earliest account of demon sex in Jewish and Christian traditions comes from the Book of Genesis, which details the origins of the world and the early history of humanity. Genesis says that, prior to the flood of Noah, fallen angels mated with women to produce a race of giants.

The brief mention of angels breeding with human women contains few details. It was left to later writers to fill in the gaps.

In the third century B.C., the “Book of the Watchers,” an apocalyptic vision written in the name of a mysterious character named Enoch mentioned in Genesis, expanded on this intriguing tale. In this version, the angels, or the “Watchers,” not only have sex with women and birth giants, but also teach humans magic, the arts of luxury and knowledge of astrology. This knowledge is commonly associated in the ancient world with the advancement of human civilization.

The “Book of the Watchers” suggests that fallen angels are the source of human civilization.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristian; antitheism; blamethemessenger; christian; demons; dnctalkingpoints; judaism; nephilim; smearcampaign; stellaimmanuel; trumppills; yellowjournalism
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Genesis chapter 6 “the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. ... The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.“, such were these in the days of Noah,

The crazy part is to maybe to believe this is happening today. However consider artificial artificial insemination, DNA manipulation , GMO’s and cloning , its not far fetched to interpret the spirit behind these things as demonic .. Nor it’s not that far fetched to believe an advanced society existed pre -flood history either , or the words of genesis chapter 6 is describing a demonic technical breeding of Nephilim not completely understood by Moses.

Matthew 24:37-39 - But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Its not that crazy, we are seeing things now as in the days of Noah..AND the world would mock anybody who points it out, let alone anybody who would promote tools of God’s healing given to us such as HCQ.

21 posted on 08/12/2020 9:10:10 AM PDT by seastay
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me get this straight. Yahoo News finds a professor of religion in California to trash an unelected Houston doctor he’s probably never met who just happens to agree with Trump over hydroxychloroquine.

Seriously?

WHAT does Dr. Immanuel’s religious beliefs have to do with her medical expertise? This is simply a hit piece. It’s garbage - absolute 100% racist garbage thinly disguised as a news story.

I don’t care if she believes in VOODOO, it has nothing to do with her medical qualifications. NOTHING! Postings like this are simply offensive and insulting.


22 posted on 08/12/2020 9:12:04 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Face masks are simply mouth diapers for liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As God as my witness; I had two supernatural experiences, both sexual in nature. Both in the same house, less than a month apart.

First one: I was in bed alone and felt felt a weight began to press down on my body. Freaking out, I tried to move, paralyzed. I tried to yell out, I expended the air in my lungs and couldn’t breathe back in.
I felt like I was being “ridden” and as a sense of pure dread fill the room I could hear “it” grunt. I was finally able to free my arm and banged on the headboard.
My wife, from the living room down the hall,yelled out “Is there something in there with you?”
The weight lifted and “it” groaned like “it” had been wounded physically.

The second tine: Same scenario. Except, this time my wife was in bed with me.
And this time, along with crushing weight, I felt as though being choked.
My wife again scared “it” away, “Will you please stop all that moving around? I’m trying to sleep.”
Again “it” groaned and hissed.

A few weeks after the second incident, I learned that a woman who’d lived in the house had been stabbed to death in the front doorway. I remembered that story from a few years before, it had happened a block from where I grew up, but didn’t know it was the house we moved into.

I’m not a believer in “ghosts”,but that scared the crap out of me.
Shortly after the revelation about the murder, we moved..... Into a house where a man had committed suicide. No problems there, not of the supernatural variety anyway.


23 posted on 08/12/2020 9:14:58 AM PDT by SantosLHalper (Eat some bacon.No, I got no idea if it'll make you feel better, I just made too much bacon.")
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To: seastay

RE: the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. ... The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—

OK, first question... why should the term “sons of God” be interpreted as fallen angels or demons? Why can’t it be interpreted as say, extraordinarily strong human beings?


24 posted on 08/12/2020 9:15:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Fai Mao

This woman makes insanity look sane.

She’s really nuts

Err...excuse me but demons are real dude! Anyone who doesn’t believe that demons exist are actually the crazy ones!


25 posted on 08/12/2020 9:16:28 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: OrangeHoof

Right?
I mean, how many respected doctors are Scientologists?
There is some wacky beliefs.


26 posted on 08/12/2020 9:17:27 AM PDT by SantosLHalper (Eat some bacon.No, I got no idea if it'll make you feel better, I just made too much bacon.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Her religious beliefs don’t change an iota the relevant question.

Hydroxychloroquine with zinc works, 100%. None of the other treatments are in the same ballpark for effectiveness.


27 posted on 08/12/2020 9:19:57 AM PDT by marron
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To: BenLurkin

It actually is a domain of psychiatry called ethnopsychiatry

The Zar phenomena has been studied. The terms amok and berserk comes from similar culture.


28 posted on 08/12/2020 9:20:18 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: SantosLHalper

Worse than that a lot of them are Democrats.


29 posted on 08/12/2020 9:20:20 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Life is anecdotal)
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To: DoodleDawg; Mathews

RE: Because all she has offered was her own claims and no documentation to back it up?

AN honest and capable reporter could easily check the claim by visiting her clinic and investigating some of her patients or looking at her cases to determine the truth or falsity of her claims.

Firstly, she has been in medical practice in the USA for over a decade.
Has her license been revoked because of any malpractice?

If not, go on to the next item... who are these patients, have they been diagnosed with CoVid-19?

Next item... which pharmacies have filled her Hydroxychloroquine prescriptions?

These basic information could easily be checked if you want documentation.

Why are there no reporters doing these?


30 posted on 08/12/2020 9:23:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: lavaroise

31 posted on 08/12/2020 9:23:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Because it was the devil’s purpose to prevent the birth of Christ. Pollute the ‘blood’ line.. Only Noah and his family had not been polluted.. The book of Jude explains. Remember Christ said it would be like the days of Noah.. has not happened yet... biggest revival ever on the horizon... garden party of all time. SJWs paving the yellow brick road..
32 posted on 08/12/2020 9:24:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “sons of god” is a term used for Only describing angles in other the bible passages , but it is a legitimate question who are these “sons of god” in Genesis chapter 6 ? Therefore , although we may know for sure, its not a crazy concept as media would have us believe.


33 posted on 08/12/2020 9:24:19 AM PDT by seastay
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To: DoodleDawg

>>> What about her belief that doctors are working on a vaccine to prevent people from becoming Christians or her belief that doctors have medications based on alien DNA? Any Biblical foundation for those?

The speculation is that the Mark of the Beast involves DNA alterations which make a person ineligible for salvation, because they are no longer human. (DNA infusions from fallen angels)

The bible says if you take the mark, you cannot be saved.... therefore “not eligible to be christian”.


34 posted on 08/12/2020 9:31:02 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: SeekAndFind

>>The “Book of the Watchers” suggests that fallen angels are the source of human civilization.

Louis Farrakhan preaches that white people are a thousand year eugenics experiment by a wise black scientist to distill the concentration of all evil in these white devils.

Louis Farrakhan was friends with Barack Obama, many a rapper and Democrat politician. And there is ZERO condemnation of his naked racist bigotry and hate speech or against those who associate with him.


35 posted on 08/12/2020 9:31:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SeekAndFind
AN honest and capable reporter could easily check the claim by visiting her clinic and investigating some of her patients or looking at her cases to determine the truth or falsity of her claims.

An honest and capable doctor wouldn't rely on reporters, fake news and all that. An honest and capable doctor would publish her results for review by her peers. Including all the information you mentioned.

36 posted on 08/12/2020 9:32:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: OrangeHoof

>>I don’t care if she believes in VOODOO, it has nothing to do with her medical qualifications. NOTHING! Postings like this are simply offensive and insulting.

I’ll say this, there are plenty of backwoods and “lost community” treatments for medical conditions that work.

Meanwhile in America deaths by medical malpractice are down somewhat because surgeries etc are down. However there has been a lot of malpractice for those hospitalized with Covid what with the use of ventilators etc that may have done more harm than good.

Medical malpractice is one of the leading causes of death in America.


The researchers estimated that an annual 251,454 U.S. deaths — or 9.5% of all annual U.S. deaths — resulted from medical error, making it the third leading cause of death in the country.Oct 18, 2019

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-a-review-of-337000-patient-cases-this-was-the-no-1-most-common-medical-error-2019-07-22


37 posted on 08/12/2020 9:37:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shills update.


38 posted on 08/12/2020 9:39:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Safrguns; DoodleDawg

>>The speculation is that the Mark of the Beast involves DNA alterations which make a person ineligible for salvation, because they are no longer human. (DNA infusions from fallen angels)

You can change your DNA...

Look up bone marrow transplants

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/dna-bone-marrow-transplant-crime-lab.html

https://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask208

I recently read Natalie Dye’s response to a question about chimera DNA. As A Crime Scene Investigator and instructor this piqued my interest and has me wondering about DNA as it relates to bone marrow transplants. Would a person who receives a bone marrow transplant essentially now have two potential sources of DNA, the original pre-existing in the body’s cells and now another from the donor cells of the bone marrow?

-A curious adult from Texas

February 9, 2007

You are exactly right. A bone marrow transplant turns the patient into a chimera. What I mean is that the DNA in their blood is different than the DNA in the rest of their cells.

In theory, this could complicate a criminal investigation. In fact, there is at least one case where it did. Before going into that, though, let’s go a bit more into how DNA testing and bone marrow transplants work...


39 posted on 08/12/2020 9:39:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Excellent point and way of putting it. I’m stealing it.


40 posted on 08/12/2020 9:40:07 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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