I am half Baptist half Lutheran. There are aspects of both that hold my Christianity together.
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Ping.
We went to ALC or LCA, depending on which church was closest as we moved a lot. I did attend a LCMS school in 8th grade.
Heading for the Catholic Church?
Thank you for posting this. I found it interesting.
truth. thanks.
The LCMS in my town became an ELDoNA whatever that is. I think there are only about 17 in the US.
one problem though. a lot of conservative Lutherans seem really confused about government and elections. a lot of them still vote for pure evil like Clinton, and can’t stand Trump. because they are living in the past. that’s good when it comes to theology, and bad when it comes to current events.
That's a bizarre statement. The bible clearly lays out the form in Ephesians 4:11-12. The bible lays out the qualifications for elders and deacons in 1 Tim 3 and in Titus. The bible lays out a church service in 1 Cor 14:27 to 37. Are those not good enough?
I like conservative Anglicanism (Anglican Church in North America) (ACNA) (NOT The Episcopal Church, TEC). It’s the culturally English Church from the Reformation, not the culturally German/Scandinavian Church, which is Lutheranism.
Also, LCMS Lutheranism, and WELS, severely condemn those who don’t hold to their specific doctrine on holy communion, whereas in Anglicanism, while the favored view is the Real Presence, those who cannot quite accept that are welcome at the communion rail, as long as they confess Christ and are baptised.
The original break within Protestantism was Luther’s intolerance of the Swiss Reformer Zwingli’s view of holy communion...and I find that intolerance, the lasting result of it....quite sad.
Kanye West is going to tap into this. Even his secular stuff incorporated ‘high church’ aesthetics.
Lutheran ping!
As I stated before I am half Baptist and half Lutheran. I believe Lutheranism gets it right on living in grace. I like that they attach some mystery to things like communion. Where I am a baptist is more in the salvation side. I believe that Lutherans have a built in flaw in their belief system and that revolves around salvation at baptism. Lutherans talk like Baptists (I was raised Lutheran and taught it and believed it but I would not say I understood the salvation at baptism concept until I came back to it later in life after a 25 year journey in the Baptist church). I attend a bible based Sunday school class at my Lutheran church and people from many backgrounds attend it. Anyway, the flaw is that many people will talk about their conversion to Christ and the Lutheran talks about their baptism. There is no conversion moment for a Lutheran (confirmation really does not do it). So I believe the flaw is that it works well for people who are raised in the system but it is a conflicted theology where saving the lost is concerned. A new convert describes his salvation whereas the Lutheran points to his baptism. The Lutheran is happy and embraces salvation in others but I think that in the Baptist religion there is only one type of Christian and in Lutheranism there are two type - those Baptized and those who have a later salvation experience. I think this is their fatal flaw. I go to a Lutheran church now and like living in grace and enjoy the mysterious side of Christianity better ...but I embrace the Baptist approach that every person needs a personal saving repentance.
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Rather, any church that claims that it particularly is the "true church" is cultic, and one that believes regeneration occurs thru a ritual even for souls who cannot fulfill the stated requirement for that (infants), which is wholehearted penitent heart-purifying faith, (Acts 2:38; 8:36,37; 10:43; 15:7-9) is an seriously aberrant church.
And as for "historic liturgy," you mean,
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. (1 Corinthians 14:26-31)
And do you think "not discerning the body" in 1 Cor. 11 refers to what is being consumed, vs. the body of Christ? See here
Some LCMS hymns from the “The Lutheran Hymnal” sound like unenthusiastic funeral dirges. The new hymnal is just completely disappointing.
I’m Jewish by blood, but was raised Lutheran, Missouri Synod. I prefer the Wisconsin Synod, though, and joined that church as an adult. My mother joined the Methodists when she re-married. They goof around in church too much for my tastes. I can’t stand all the glad-handing. Just tell me I’m a sinner and make me feel bad about it so I shape up...for the week at least, LOL!
Still looking for a new Church Home. It’s taking a while as I live in the middle of nowhere, now. Also, since I’m in a small farming community, whichever church I join, I will be the youngest member at 60, so I’ll be doing all of the grunt work, LOL! ;)
Swim the Mississippi: Why Conservative Lutheranism is the Faith Tradition Many Evangelicals Seek
Issues, Etc., a Lutheran daily news and discussion program/podcast, talked to him the other day: 3042. The Appeal of Lutheranism to Evangelicals – Tom Raabe, 10/31/19
"Meh." I thought he slipped in unexamined assumptions that the really ought to be examined. I did not find his reasons compelling.
I already have an ancient “faith tradition”.
It’s called the Scriptures.