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1 posted on 08/28/2019 8:31:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Isn’t it enough that we believe in the same God, and that Jews have owned that land longer than anyone else claiming it, and therefore have a right to it?


2 posted on 08/28/2019 8:36:06 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Olog-hai

I NEVER thought of Christian Zionism in such dark terms.

But I know almost nothing about them or how the majority thinks.

Anyone who does care to elucidate?

That’s my 25 cent word of the week :)


3 posted on 08/28/2019 8:37:38 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company PeoTill the day I die.)
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To: SkyDancer

Ping.


4 posted on 08/28/2019 8:38:17 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Olog-hai

This article is all over the map, especially with respect to John Hagee. The man does not preach the “prosperity gospel”. He does have a heavy emphasis on his eschatological views, which revolve around Israel. Any sense of blessing of a nation or individual by being kindly disposed toward Israel reflects back to God’s original covenant with Abraham, including “I will bless them that bless thee and curse him that curseth thee.”

Secondly, no serious proponent of dispensational eschatology would ever teach that any of our tenets can ever do anything to hasten or retard the apocalypse. Nor would he ever overlook the fact that God has His own special end-times agenda vis a vis Israel which none of us can affect one way or the other.


10 posted on 08/28/2019 8:53:25 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Olog-hai

Having read the article, it appears that the Israelis don’t understand much how little authority and how small the followings preachers in the United States generally have.

They try to look a a smattering of megachurch pastors and authors whose appeal sells to secular audiences enough to get them on bestsellers lists, and then assume that those sources which have already been prescreened to appeal to secular culture somewhat represent the bulk of Christians.


15 posted on 08/28/2019 8:56:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Olog-hai; Ancesthntr; CaptainAmiigaf; BTerclinger; Daveinyork; dennisw; EinNYC; Eleutheria5; ...

Well worth reading by Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians.


19 posted on 08/28/2019 9:03:46 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Olog-hai

Judaism - the original.


24 posted on 08/28/2019 9:15:14 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Olog-hai
They also associate Israel with far-right, ultra-nationalist politics, as when the Brazilian Pentacostalist Rene Terra Nova “administered a mass baptism in the Jordan river to a group of Brazilian tourists before leading a chant in support” of fascist leader Jair Bolsanaro — a gathering that reached large Brazilian audiences through social media.

Would this young man care to carefully explain just how Jair Bolsanaro qualifies as a "Fascist"?

Does he even know what the word means?

25 posted on 08/28/2019 9:16:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Olog-hai

A very thoughtful piece relevant to this topic:

https://kehilanews.allisrael.com/some-thoughts-on-dual-covenant-theology/


30 posted on 08/28/2019 9:19:01 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Olog-hai

Strange thing about all this.

Christians are looking forward to a Jewish Messiah (Yeshua in the Christian view) ruling over the world from Jerusalem (Zion).

Jews (Israeli descendents) are looking forward to a Jewish Messiah ruling over the world from Jerusalem (Zion). They believe the Messiah has not yet come.

Both groups are Zionist.

Both groups are facing enemies who deny the Word of God and seek a world government based on their unbelief, or their groups dogma and belief.

So Christians and Jews have a core belief in the Word of God (the Bible) as what is moral, what is immoral, and the ultimate end, or beginning of what is known as the future of mankind.

Within Christianity there is a core belief, but disagreement on how to worship, and the ultimate end, or beginning for mankind. These are called denominations.

Within Judaism there is a core belief, but disagreement on how to worship, and whether to follow the Bible, part of the Bible (Torah), or the Talmud.

Outside of Judaism and Christianity are groups that wear the garb of Judaism and Christianity, but whose core beliefs contradict the bible, or try to add “new revelations”. These are called cults.

Both groups (Jews and Christians) distrust, but need to realize that the basic belief in G_d (El”, Yahweh, Jehovah) separates both Jew and Christian from the world around them, and they face a common enemy (Satan) that is intent upon dividing them and bringing about the demise of belief in G_d, and the worship of Satan.


42 posted on 08/28/2019 10:19:39 AM PDT by Yulee
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To: Olog-hai

Bro, it’s perfect. I encourage all (1.5 billion?) Christians to donate to Israel— or at least to their local Chabad House. Thank you for the support.


48 posted on 08/28/2019 11:22:43 AM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: Olog-hai

Israel is to the church as the caterpillar is to the butterfly.


72 posted on 08/29/2019 4:35:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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