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Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
Rorate Caeli ^
| June 25, 2019
| New Catholic
Posted on 06/25/2019 3:55:18 PM PDT by ebb tide
Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
In his own words:
Surprisingly, the account of the multiplication of the loaves does not mention the multiplication itself. On the contrary, the words that stand out are: break, give and distribute (cf. Lk 9:16). In effect, the emphasis is not on the multiplication but the act of sharing. This is important. Jesus does not perform a magic trick; he does not change five loaves into five thousand and then to announce: There! Distribute them! No. Jesus first prays, then blesses the five loaves and begins to break them, trusting in the Father. And those five loaves never run out. This is no magic trick; it is an act of trust in God and his providence.
Francis
Rome, June 23, 2019
On the other hand:
Having reached this point, Venerable Brethren, we have sufficient material in hand to enable us to see the relations which Modernists establish between faith and science, including history also under the name of science. And in the first place it is to be held that the object of the one is quite extraneous to and separate from the object of the other. For faith occupies itself solely with something which science declares to be unknowable for it. Hence each has a separate field assigned to it: science is entirely concerned with the reality of phenomena, into which faith does not enter at all; faith on the contrary concerns itself with the divine reality which is entirely unknown to science. Thus the conclusion is reached that there can never be any dissension between faith and science, for if each keeps on its own ground they can never meet and therefore never be in contradiction. And if it be objected that in the visible world there are some things which appertain to faith, such as the human life of Christ, the Modernists reply by denying this. For though such things come within the category of phenomena, still in as far as they are lived by faith and in the way already described have been by faith transfigured and disfigured, they have been removed from the world of sense and translated to become material for the divine. Hence should it be further asked whether Christ has wrought real miracles, and made real prophecies, whether He rose truly from the dead and ascended into heaven, the answer of agnostic science will be in the negative and the answer of faith in the affirmative - yet there will not be, on that account, any conflict between them. For it will be denied by the philosopher as philosopher, speaking to philosophers and considering Christ only in His historical reality; and it will be affirmed by the speaker, speaking to believers and considering the life of Christ as lived again by the faith and in the faith.
Saint Pius X
Pascendi
September 8, 1907
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: 18thdistrict; antipope; conorlamb; francischurch; heresy; homosexualagenda; pennsylvania; popefrancis; ricksaccone; romancatholicism
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To: ebb tide
I’m not even religious and the phony religious commie crap from Francis offends me.
Does a bear crap in the woods? Yes
Is the Pope Catholic? Not anymore
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:07:18 PM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
John 15:18 If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:10:46 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: july4thfreedomfoundation
There is nobody else on the Global scene doing what this man is doing to even suggest he has competition for that title.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:13:24 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
You are so right !
We all need way more Bible than Bergoglio, who is antiBible.
44
posted on
06/25/2019 5:16:56 PM PDT
by
A strike
(import third world. become third world)
To: Pelham
Communists only believe in one miracle, the miracle
of socialism which will some day work if only the
right people do it.
45
posted on
06/25/2019 5:17:25 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: tet68
There’s more to it than that. Give Catholics some credit. You have to say the magic word(s). I’m not sure if it’s the Hail Marys or rosary but I mean you have to do your part.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:21:38 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(I heard a joke the other day that the CNN poll showed . . . No that was it. The CNN poll.)
To: ebb tide
Whaaaaaaaat? Oh he can’t go soon enough. Commie Pope, great. Just what the world needs.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:22:12 PM PDT
by
bboop
(does not suffer fools gladly)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
I believe it was St. Jerome who saw the story of the multiplication of the loaves as not only the recounting of a true event, but also an allegory in Scripture about Christ and salvation.
He suggested that the five loaves represented the Old Law in the five books of the Pentateuch, and the two fish represented either the great prophets Isaiah and Elijah, or Moses and Abraham.
And the "multiplication of the loaves" represented the endless abundance of God's grace as manifested in Jesus Christ. This grace is so abundant and so far beyond the comprehension of the followers of Christ at the time that they could not "eat" it all (i.e., they could no understand it fully). So the twelve baskets of leftovers represented the grace which would be "eaten" by the human race later -- through the continuation of salvation history through the Church in its mission on earth (i.e., the Twelve apostles).
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:25:10 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
To: A strike
"Is this Pope Christian?" He $#!T$ IN THE WOODS!
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:25:52 PM PDT
by
outofsalt
(If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
To: erkelly
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:26:12 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
To: ebb tide
I had a friend who experienced a multiplication of food at a church potluck. There was a mistake in the bulletin that made it sound like there was a dinner for the parish, when it was really just potluck for the fairly small prayer group. The food brought by the group fed several dozen more people than it should have. The prayer group members were astonished. The casserole dishes just didn’t empty out.
I have no interest in a God who does not do miracles. Let God be God.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:28:52 PM PDT
by
married21
( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
That too!
He is an Impostor!
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:28:55 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: ebb tide
How did he get to be pope?
53
posted on
06/25/2019 5:31:38 PM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
To: faithhopecharity
I’ve always thought it was more division than multiplication, take one loaf and divide it, hand one half to someone and the other to another, then they continue to do the same, the miracle is in faith, each time the loaf is halved it becomes like the original half, and everyone does the same until all are fed, at the end the fragments are more than the five loaves they started with. Jesus always does things abundantly. My 2 cents.
To: ebb tide
Another day without Algebra. Though the Communicative, Distributive, and Associative Laws of Mathematics continue to prevail.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:32:19 PM PDT
by
Radix
(Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
To: Alberta's Child
Interesting take on it. Just as Jesus does on the Sermon on the Mount, takes the old “rules” and expands them. But expands them so much that it requires God’s power and grace to meet them.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:32:23 PM PDT
by
21twelve
(!)
To: faithhopecharity
Exactly what hubby just said.
Heres your microscopic crumb...enjoy!!
Yeah, right, Frank.
🙃
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:35:49 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
To: dsc
“Lord, if this is our punishment, then I can only accept it with contrition. But I will not follow that scumbag into heresy.”
I am no longer a Catholic though I am Catholic by faith. My church left me, I did not leave it. My new church is Protestant as it hews to the faith the catholic church once did. I would most gladly return to my Catholic Church if it goes back to its original tenets and the Pope stays the hell out of politics.
The Pope, not my Pope, is a Marxist. He is destroying my former church one day at a time. He is not a good man.
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:38:48 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
To: ebb tide
The a**hole wears a dress every day. Who cares what he says.....
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:49:30 PM PDT
by
Hardshell
(Mollie Tibbetts)
To: Hardshell
Everyone has a right to be be stupid, only Francis abuses the privilege.
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