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Philippine President Duterte says Christian belief in Trinity is ‘silly’
Rappler ^ | 12/29/2018 | Mara Cepeda

Posted on 12/29/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte mocked the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity, calling it “silly” on Saturday, December 29.

In a speech in Kidapawan City, Cotabato, the President attacked the doctrine of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as he once again went into a tirade against priests and the Catholic Church.

"You’re already praying at one God, then you’re going to pray at these cursed saints. There’s only one God. There’s only one God, period. You cannot divide God into 3, that’s silly,” said the President.

Before attacking the Holy Trinity doctrine, Duterte said Jesus Christ is “unimpressive” because he had allowed himself to be nailed on the cross.

"Your God was nailed on the cross. How unimpressive. I’m God and you will crucify me? I’d tell them, ‘Lightning, finish all of them. Burn all the non-believers.'"

The passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is among the central doctrines of Christian faith, with Christians believing that Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world from sin.

The President likewise belittled the belief in saints, whom he previously called as “fools” and “drunkards.”

"Saint Catalina, Saint Anne, Saint Thomas, Saint Sebastian, Saint Rodrigo, they’re nothing… I don’t know them. Look, those documents were written – if at all – 3,000 years ago. Why would they care about our lives now?"

"Who wrote about them? Who’s Saint Thomas? We don’t know who they are. That might even be a name for a cow or camel then"

The President – under whose term a string of priests have been murdered – had previously stirred controversy for calling God “stupid."

On December 6, Duterte even joked that bishops should be “killed” for supposedly doing nothing but criticizing his administration, which is waging a bloody war against drugs that has killed thousands.


TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: antipope; christianity; duterte; homosexualagenda; islamofascism; islamofascist; philippines; popefrancis; rodrigoduterte; romancatholicism; trinity
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To: Mark17

I remember the Talon - loved it. (USAF Scope Dope). And they still fly here in Huntsville.


81 posted on 12/30/2018 7:14:57 PM PST by TomServo
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Assurance of salvation, prior to one’s final judgment by Jesus Christ, certainly is both a presumption and a sin.


82 posted on 12/30/2018 7:15:09 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Luircin
Luther loved to sin also.

“Be a sinner, and sin boldly”.

Stop judging me bro. You are not my judge. If I want to commit the “sin of presumption,” I will do it, and you will have no say in the matter. 👍
Somehow I knew, if the conversation went on long enough, the name of the great and wonderful, beloved Martin Luther would come up. I was right. He was a great man, and an ex catholic, just like me. 👍😁🤣😂😇 If you are able to lead a good enough life, to earn your way to Heaven, I will be laughing at you for all eternity, cuz you will have to sit down next to beloved Martin. 😁🤣👍😂😇🙄 You are allowed to hate that great guy, Martin Luther, here on earth, but in Heaven, you will not be allowed to hate him. You will have to love him. I will enjoy watching you squirm, as you are forced to fellowship with him. It will be a beautiful thing to behold. Of course, since you don’t know if you will be there, it might all be a moot point. That’s ok, however. I will have fellowship with brother Martin for you. You don’t even have to be there. Have a nice eternity bro. I intend to. Ok,
I am getting bored with this. It is now 11:30 AM, on the 31st. It’s raining cats and dogs, since it is monsoon season. I am reasonably sure, that above the clouds, the sun is shining, except if I say that, I might be presumptuous of that fact, and we can’t be presumptuous. Have a nice non presumptuous day bro.

83 posted on 12/30/2018 7:32:30 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I’m not judging anyone, not you nor myself.

I’ll leave the judging to my Lord, Jesus Christ.

Good luck with your judgement.


84 posted on 12/30/2018 7:40:09 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Yeah, sure.

I’m going to continue believing God and His Word, rejoicing in my salvation, and exalting in being sealed by the Spirit.

You can do as you wish, but salvation is only in Him and you could throw away your scapula, religious works and rituals today.

In any case, there’s no doubt you heard the Gospel of Grace repeatedly and are accountable.


85 posted on 12/30/2018 7:48:25 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ealgeone

I love that verse and do know as the apostle John said, that I have eternal life now.

If some glum, religious person wants to reject the Word of God, we’ll that’s on them.


86 posted on 12/30/2018 7:52:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: TomServo
I remember the Talon - loved it. (USAF Scope Dope). And they still fly here in Huntsville.

My son is fixing to enter Reaper or Global Hawk training. While I try not to be too presumptuous, maybe some people, who are not too knowledgeable about such issues, might think Reaper and Global Hawk pilots wear oxygen masks while flying. 👎🛩

87 posted on 12/30/2018 7:54:45 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So you, too, don’t believe in a final judgement by Jesus Christ?


88 posted on 12/30/2018 8:04:26 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
In any case, there’s no doubt you heard the Gospel of Grace repeatedly and are accountable.

It seems to me, I have said that a time or two, myself. Oh well, I have a feeling, eternity will not go well for millions. Once people have been told the truth, they need to respond to it. Most hear the truth, and reject it. That’s on them. 🤣😁 I think they don’t grow closer to God, but grow further away.

89 posted on 12/30/2018 8:13:33 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

I’ve already been judged in Christ - all my sins paid for by His death. When He died, I died. My life is now hidden in Him, by His grace and no effort or merit of my own.

Read what Jesus said, ebb...

“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.”

He either told the truth or He lied. I believe He told you exactly how to go to heaven.

And I rejoice greatly to avoid the judgement that condemns to hell.

I would think that would interest you too.

My works after salvation will be tested to evaluate their quality. I will either be rewarded or suffer loss of rewards.

For those who were not saved, they will sadly appear to be judged and be cast into the lake of fire.


90 posted on 12/30/2018 8:20:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
My works after salvation will be tested to evaluate their quality.

No. You're works will be judged and tested prior to any salvation you imagine.

91 posted on 12/30/2018 8:24:23 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Again ebb, I will choose to believe Christ, over your interpretations or religious dogmas.

You can believe as you will, but you just contradicted the words of Christ I posted to you.

He didn’t say what you claim. In fact, you said the opposite.

Perhaps you are not seeing truth. I can’t make you see it.

Again, that is on you.


92 posted on 12/30/2018 8:28:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: af_vet_1981

Granted, these guys say that they use the Bible for a source but after reading it multiple times, It’s simply not possible to get his opinions out of Biblical text. It’s just not there. He has to be making it up as he goes or he’s getting his ideas from somewhere/something else.


93 posted on 12/30/2018 8:34:34 PM PST by excalibur21
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To: Mark17

“I think they don’t grow closer to God, but grow further away.“

And more dour.

Keep sharing the truth bro!


94 posted on 12/30/2018 8:38:44 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17
How should I (a Catholic) respond to someone who asks me if I’ve been saved, or born again?
95 posted on 12/30/2018 8:44:00 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You should listen to God’s Word and do it... and not bogus internet sites.


96 posted on 12/30/2018 8:47:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You should read the Bible, the entire Bible.

Check the referenced verses.


97 posted on 12/30/2018 8:50:25 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: af_vet_1981
excalibur21 I don’t see how the Bible can be interpreted that way.

Oh hogwash!

One can believe ANYTHING by using the bible!!

You merely leave some stuff out;
or add some stuff in.

98 posted on 12/30/2018 9:00:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Yet (I have it on good report) that merely 5 miles away from your house; it WAS brightly shining!!!



Straight up; that is...

99 posted on 12/30/2018 9:02:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I shudda read ahead!


100 posted on 12/30/2018 9:03:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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