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Philippine President Duterte says Christian belief in Trinity is ‘silly’
Rappler ^ | 12/29/2018 | Mara Cepeda

Posted on 12/29/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte mocked the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity, calling it “silly” on Saturday, December 29.

In a speech in Kidapawan City, Cotabato, the President attacked the doctrine of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as he once again went into a tirade against priests and the Catholic Church.

"You’re already praying at one God, then you’re going to pray at these cursed saints. There’s only one God. There’s only one God, period. You cannot divide God into 3, that’s silly,” said the President.

Before attacking the Holy Trinity doctrine, Duterte said Jesus Christ is “unimpressive” because he had allowed himself to be nailed on the cross.

"Your God was nailed on the cross. How unimpressive. I’m God and you will crucify me? I’d tell them, ‘Lightning, finish all of them. Burn all the non-believers.'"

The passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is among the central doctrines of Christian faith, with Christians believing that Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world from sin.

The President likewise belittled the belief in saints, whom he previously called as “fools” and “drunkards.”

"Saint Catalina, Saint Anne, Saint Thomas, Saint Sebastian, Saint Rodrigo, they’re nothing… I don’t know them. Look, those documents were written – if at all – 3,000 years ago. Why would they care about our lives now?"

"Who wrote about them? Who’s Saint Thomas? We don’t know who they are. That might even be a name for a cow or camel then"

The President – under whose term a string of priests have been murdered – had previously stirred controversy for calling God “stupid."

On December 6, Duterte even joked that bishops should be “killed” for supposedly doing nothing but criticizing his administration, which is waging a bloody war against drugs that has killed thousands.


TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: antipope; christianity; duterte; homosexualagenda; islamofascism; islamofascist; philippines; popefrancis; rodrigoduterte; romancatholicism; trinity
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To: af_vet_1981
Random verse generation ...

Not random; making the point from the scriptures.

Call it whatever you like bro. It’s random verse generating to me, because I don’t agree with your theology. You will just have to accept that.
Sorry you don’t have any assurance of salvation. I certainly do. If you don’t, that’s on you bro. I hope you have a nice eternity. I have total assurance of salvation, that I will. 😁😇😂🤣👍🇵🇭

61 posted on 12/30/2018 4:45:13 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
Hogwash bro. No self respecting INC member that I know (and I have known a ton of them) has ever used those words.

Yet that is the INC official website. That is what the INC believes.

The "I have known a ton of them" argument is a logical fallacy (Hasty generalization(jumping to a conclusion)).

For example:

Nixon won presidency. "How can that be? No one I know voted for Nixon."
62 posted on 12/30/2018 4:46:29 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17
Sorry you don’t have any assurance of salvation.

I already answered and explained to the contrary. One can have assurance of salvation. If one endures, perseveres, and overcomes, one will be saved.
63 posted on 12/30/2018 4:47:58 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ebb tide
You initially said, “someone standing outside”, not someone flying at “FL 450”. Make up your mind.

That’s only in your world bro. I don’t live in your world, thank goodness for that. Am I correct in assuming FL 450 is beyind your understanding? I was there, in a a Talon. Were you?😁👍🤣😂😂😊🙄😝🤔🤗😄🙃👋😀😃😁😆😅

64 posted on 12/30/2018 4:52:11 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

Logic? Ha!

“I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.” - George Bernard Shaw

I am in no way inferring that I may have learned this yet, there is a wealth of evidence right here on FR to the contrary but one day it just might penetrate my dense skull.

7


65 posted on 12/30/2018 4:54:51 PM PST by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: ebb tide

“You said, “someone standing outside”.

Nah, I did not bro.


66 posted on 12/30/2018 4:56:56 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide; Mark17

“By you’re stupid logic, the sun is always shining at midnight also.”

The sun is always shining. It doesn’t have an off switch.


67 posted on 12/30/2018 4:59:43 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17

I confused you for Mark17. Not hard to do.

My apologies.


68 posted on 12/30/2018 5:00:51 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I’ve done the same - many times.


69 posted on 12/30/2018 5:03:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No kidding?


70 posted on 12/30/2018 5:04:12 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Certainly understandable by your posts.


71 posted on 12/30/2018 5:05:14 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; Luircin; ealgeone
The "I have known a ton of them" argument is a logical fallacy (Hasty generalization(jumping to a conclusion)).

Hogwash bro. I have known a ton of INC members. Not a single one has ever used that term. I am sure you haven’t known even a single one. They believe they are the OTC, but it’s garbage. I think you believe you are in the OTC. Guess what bro? I don’t agree with your theology. Get used to it.

I already answered and explained to the contrary. One can have assurance of salvation. If one endures, perseveres, and overcomes, one will be saved.

Sorry bro. You didn’t explain anything. You gave me your view of the random verse generation. You have to remember, I don’t agree with your theology. Sorry if you have no assurance of salvation, but I can tell that discussing this with you any further, would be an exercise in futility. Have a nice eternity bro. I am assured that I will. Just go read 1 Corinthians 2:14. See if you can understand that.

72 posted on 12/30/2018 5:06:45 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
I was there, in a a Talon. Were you?

Were you "standing" up in your little Talon?

73 posted on 12/30/2018 5:08:57 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Were you "standing" up in your little Talon?

It’s not little, and you can’t stand up in it. I am sure glad I have assurance of salvation. Do you? My opinion is, you do not. Sorry if you don’t, but I surely do. 😁👍😂😇🤣😊🙃🤔😆😅😝🙄🤗🏒

74 posted on 12/30/2018 5:23:05 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

If you can’t stand in it, it was little and you were not “standing outside”.


75 posted on 12/30/2018 5:26:26 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mark17
I am sure glad I have assurance of salvation. Do you? My opinion is, you do not.

Presumption is a sin and you are not my judge.

Presumption

76 posted on 12/30/2018 5:31:26 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
If you can’t stand in it, it was little and you were not “standing outside”

Hogwash bro. I love to commit the sin of presumption, by having assurance of salvation. I don’t care if you approve or not. My opinion is, that you don’t. I am not that concerned about it, since you are not. Get used to it bro. I HAVE assurance of salvation. It’s a beautiful thing. You should try it. 👍
By the way bro, for people who are not all that up on things, this is a Talon it’s a beautiful thing bro. 😁🤣👍😂😇👎🙄🤔😊😝🇵🇭😆🤗😃😅😀🇵🇭👋🙃

77 posted on 12/30/2018 5:44:47 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Luther loved to sin also.

“Be a sinner, and sin boldly”.


78 posted on 12/30/2018 6:06:28 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Presumption is a sin

Assurance is not presumption.

It is taking God at His Word.

79 posted on 12/30/2018 6:51:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Assurance is not presumption. It is taking God at His Word.

Amen, brother!

13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

1 John 5:13 NASB

80 posted on 12/30/2018 6:58:51 PM PST by ealgeone
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