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Philippine President Duterte says Christian belief in Trinity is ‘silly’
Rappler ^ | 12/29/2018 | Mara Cepeda

Posted on 12/29/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte mocked the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity, calling it “silly” on Saturday, December 29.

In a speech in Kidapawan City, Cotabato, the President attacked the doctrine of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as he once again went into a tirade against priests and the Catholic Church.

"You’re already praying at one God, then you’re going to pray at these cursed saints. There’s only one God. There’s only one God, period. You cannot divide God into 3, that’s silly,” said the President.

Before attacking the Holy Trinity doctrine, Duterte said Jesus Christ is “unimpressive” because he had allowed himself to be nailed on the cross.

"Your God was nailed on the cross. How unimpressive. I’m God and you will crucify me? I’d tell them, ‘Lightning, finish all of them. Burn all the non-believers.'"

The passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is among the central doctrines of Christian faith, with Christians believing that Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world from sin.

The President likewise belittled the belief in saints, whom he previously called as “fools” and “drunkards.”

"Saint Catalina, Saint Anne, Saint Thomas, Saint Sebastian, Saint Rodrigo, they’re nothing… I don’t know them. Look, those documents were written – if at all – 3,000 years ago. Why would they care about our lives now?"

"Who wrote about them? Who’s Saint Thomas? We don’t know who they are. That might even be a name for a cow or camel then"

The President – under whose term a string of priests have been murdered – had previously stirred controversy for calling God “stupid."

On December 6, Duterte even joked that bishops should be “killed” for supposedly doing nothing but criticizing his administration, which is waging a bloody war against drugs that has killed thousands.


TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: antipope; christianity; duterte; homosexualagenda; islamofascism; islamofascist; philippines; popefrancis; rodrigoduterte; romancatholicism; trinity
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To: af_vet_1981
One can have assurance if one does what the Apostle wrote in the aforementioned scripture.

Are YOU saved?


181 posted on 01/01/2019 4:12:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
That is S. Michael Houdmann's company who apparently makes a living as CEO of the gotquestions website.

I wonder if FreeRepublic has a CEO that...

182 posted on 01/01/2019 4:13:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Nice rabbit hole you’ve exposed here.

I think we need to investigate it!


183 posted on 01/01/2019 4:16:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned...

...from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures (the OT)…

...which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (not 'Mary')

184 posted on 01/01/2019 4:18:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
There are those who post from snopes.com; it is more illuminating to understand who owns snopes.com when appealing to its authority (company founded by David and Barbara Mikkelson in 2003, later in litigation over ownership).

Dude....stay in the lane.

185 posted on 01/01/2019 6:38:47 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Elsie
While the total number of priests worldwide has therefore remained about the same since 1970, the Catholic population has nearly doubled, growing from 653.6 million in 1970 to 1.229 billion in 2012.

The number of Roman Catholics varies....depends on whether they like the person or not.

If they don't like them, like Pelosi or Kennedy...they're not Roman Catholic.

But if they need to boast about how many RCs there are...then Pelosi and Kennedy are counted.

186 posted on 01/01/2019 6:45:29 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mark17
😉

I studied Bible Study methods under Hendricks and Zook.

187 posted on 01/01/2019 7:35:30 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; af_vet_1981
I have personally known 6 Dallas Theological Seminary graduates.
Hey AF, sometimes when you randomly generate verses and links, it jumps up and bites you in the you know what. 😁👍🤣😆😅
188 posted on 01/01/2019 8:54:53 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I’m going to supper tonight with a West Point graduate and a soon-to-be West Point graduate.

So THERE!


189 posted on 01/01/2019 11:55:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That’s like West Point Stereo!!


190 posted on 01/01/2019 12:54:04 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

"This is my commandment, Sorry Jesus; but the CHURCH says that I CAN call that fella FATHER if I want to. In practice; I'm almost FORCED to!"


Elsie, my brother, I'm afraid you have to go back to study your Bible just a little better.   When Jesus says to call no man father, he does not say "This is my commandment" first.   You are quoting the Bible wrong once again, you sneaky devil!   You just made that part all up, Elsie!   Have you no shame?

191 posted on 01/01/2019 12:58:59 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Elsie

"Obedience is better than sacrifice. 1 Samuel 15:22-24"

In that same chapter (Matthew 23) where that quote about calling men fathers comes from, Jesus also says that whatever the scribes and Pharisees bid you to observe and do, that you should observe and do.   (Matthew 23:1-3)   Elsie, do you obey Jesus, and observe and do all of the things the scribes and Pharisees bid you to do, Elsie, as Jesus instructed in that same chapter?

192 posted on 01/01/2019 1:01:44 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Mark17
I pulled this, from your randomly generated link, concerning Dallas Theological Seminary. I hardly think Dallas is the seminary you would want to invoke, in reference to Catholic interpretation of scripture. But just so you know bro, a certain Freeper, is a Dallas Theological Seminary graduate, so don’t try to pull the wool over his eyes.

How is that other section in the Wikipedia article relevant to the posted text about "The First Mention Principle: "God indicates in the first mention of a subject the truth with which that subject stands connected in the mind of God."?

Referencing Dallas Theological Seminary as the source is improper and erroneous. The quote is actually from Principles of Biblical Hermeneutics
By J. Edwin Hartill, 1970


He was not affiliated with Dallas Theological Seminary.

Dr. J. Edwin Hartill graduated from Muskingum College in New Concord, Ohio, and received his B.S. degree from Northwestern College in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was a member of Phi Mu Alpha and Phi Epsilon Delta. He taught Bible and was Dean of the London Bible College, London, Ontario, Canada.

In 1944 Dr. Hartill came back to Northwestern and was professor of Bible there for almost four decades until his death in 1981. Over the years he taught Doctrine, Old and New Testament Survey, Biblical Hermeneutics, Pre- and Post-Exile Prophets, Minor Prophets, Daniel, Revelation and many other book studies. Dr. Hartill was the host of "Bible Nuggets" which aired for 32 years on Northwestern Radio and other stations around the country, and he authored the book 'Principles of Biblical Hermeneutics' by Zondervan Publishing (1947).

193 posted on 01/01/2019 3:04:18 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17

See post 193


194 posted on 01/01/2019 3:04:53 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One God, revealed in three persons. Duerte, it seems, is no theologian.


195 posted on 01/01/2019 3:06:46 PM PST by Ahithophel
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To: af_vet_1981
Cut me some slack bro. I like Dallas, because they are just not into cults. I am sure, not one, single, solitary person at DTS is sympathetic to your views. Thank God for that. Dallas grads know how to rightly divide the Word of God.
196 posted on 01/01/2019 4:25:15 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: af_vet_1981
See post 196 bro.

DTS people also understand 1st Corinthians 2:14. So do I.

197 posted on 01/01/2019 4:28:09 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: SeekAndFind

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Purely by accident, El Presidente is correct!

There is not a trace of ‘Trinity’ to be found in the scriptures. (”In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit” was Eusebius’ invention)


198 posted on 01/01/2019 4:33:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ahithophel

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The spirit of Yehova is not a separate ‘person.’

The Son was “begotten,” so he is a separate person from the Father, who is pure spirit.
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199 posted on 01/01/2019 4:39:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is not a trace of ‘Trinity’ to be found in the scriptures.

Jesus Christ spoke often of God, His Father. He also spoke of the the Paraclete that He would send to His apostles.

It's all in scripture.

200 posted on 01/01/2019 4:58:07 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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