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1 posted on 11/16/2018 5:22:37 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I like it.


2 posted on 11/16/2018 5:24:00 PM PST by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: marshmallow

Relatively benign. At least it’s not like some liberal women in the Catholic Church who decided not to utter their words “Our Father” since they don’t want God to be a masculine gender. Never mind they were Jesus’ words.


3 posted on 11/16/2018 5:25:38 PM PST by irish guard
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To: Salvation; ebb tide; Mrs. Don-o
Hmm...ping...🤔
4 posted on 11/16/2018 5:28:18 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: marshmallow

I’ll continue to say the Our Father the same way as I have for about 64 years.


5 posted on 11/16/2018 5:33:58 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: marshmallow

Now I am really con-fus-ed.

Matthew 4:1-11 NIV \

Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted[a] by the devil


8 posted on 11/16/2018 6:03:17 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (h)
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To: marshmallow

Job 2-6
“And the LORD said to the satan, “He is in your power; only spare his life.”
I’ll keep saying it the old way.


9 posted on 11/16/2018 6:09:46 PM PST by freefdny
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To: marshmallow

Any Greek scholars in the house?


11 posted on 11/16/2018 6:23:37 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: marshmallow
Pope Francis: The Our Father "Induces Temptation"
12 posted on 11/16/2018 6:32:18 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: marshmallow

All changes to the Mass (liturgy, rubrics), and prayer (e.g. The Rosary) and Canon Law since 1960 are the Devil’s work: including “improvements” that seem benign at the time, but are actually part of Satan’s plan to spoil the Church (he will fail, but many Catholics will be lead astray).


14 posted on 11/16/2018 6:52:20 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: marshmallow

It’s all about ignorance of Latin (and before it, Greek). The original word did not mean “temptation,” in the modern sense of being lured into something, but “testing,” that is, being put to the test. So the prayer essentially asks God not to but us to the test, not to try us as He did Job, not to place us in difficult and trying circumstances, particularly those that might lead to a choice and martyrdom (such as the unfortunate Chinese bishops are facing).


15 posted on 11/16/2018 6:55:20 PM PST by livius
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To: marshmallow; Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; heterosupremacist; ...
On a related note with the Italians:

Italian Bishops Want to Overturn Summorum Pontificum

16 posted on 11/16/2018 7:00:03 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: marshmallow

they should worry why there are no more Catholics in the pews, why people aren’t marrying, why there is a negative birth rate and so on. the church is dead in Italy


19 posted on 11/16/2018 7:34:50 PM PST by Coleus (For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: marshmallow

One of the Gospels has this:

Do not put us to the final test,
But deliver us from the evil one.

I like this and say it that way when privately praying.


25 posted on 11/16/2018 8:12:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

Since THIS prayer was given to us by Jesus Christ Himself, I will not alter original text.


28 posted on 11/16/2018 8:24:51 PM PST by NCC-1701 ((You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.))
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To: marshmallow

Twisting the words of Jesus Christ. That is how the church of Rome do.


29 posted on 11/16/2018 8:33:38 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: marshmallow

The Church is in flames and the Italian Bishops are concerned about changing happy to glad.


30 posted on 11/16/2018 9:01:11 PM PST by O6ret
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To: marshmallow
“Do not abandon us to temptation but deliver us from evil.”

"Do not abandon us.." is very awkward (perhaps not so in Italian). How about "Save us from temptation and deliver us from evil"?

37 posted on 11/17/2018 5:23:31 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: marshmallow

“Peace to people of good will” was always wrong.

“Peace to people with whom he is pleased”, although crypto-Calvinist, is closer to the mark.


40 posted on 11/17/2018 5:29:01 AM PST by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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To: marshmallow
The bishops also approved two proposals made by their safeguarding commission concerning the protection of minors and vulnerable adults.

It seems none of the posters here noted this part of the article. Why is it that "the Vatican" didn't stop this bishop conference from moving forward with reforms regarding the sexual abuse issue and not the US Conference?

41 posted on 11/17/2018 5:57:34 AM PST by piusv
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