Posted on 06/23/2018 11:34:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
After ranting about the Catholic Church, the President of the Philippines now has a beef with the concept of 'original sin' in the Genesis creation story
MANILA, Philippines After recent tirades against priests and the Church's "hypocrisy," Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte cursed God and called God "stupid" for the concept of "original sin" in the Bible's creation story.
Duterte, on Friday, June 22, began with retelling the story of Adam and Eve and how they ate the fruit from the forbidden tree and thus brought original sin upon humankind.
"Kinain ni Adam (Adam ate it) then malice was born. Who is this stupid God? Istupido talaga itong putangina kung ganoon (That son of a bitch is stupid if that's the case)," said Duterte during a summit in Davao City.
"You created something perfect and then you think of an event that would tempt and destroy the quality of your work," he continued.
The President, a Catholic, said he finds it preposterous that babies should be born with original sin.
"Tsuk tsak lang 'yun ng nanay pati tatay mo wala ka pang kasali tapos ngayon may original sin ka. Tanginang klase anong klaseng relihiyon 'yan? 'Yan ang hindi ko matanggap. What a stupid proposition," said an incensed Duterte.
(That was your mother and father's deed, you weren't born yet, but now you have original sin. What kind of religion is that? I can't accept it.)
Yet after this tirade, Duterte insists he still believes in a greater being. It's religion and institutions he does not trust.
"I believe there is a universal mind. But [to] what extent is the influence of the I cannot picture him as a human being But I really believe, i have this faith and abiding thing about but don't believe in religion," he said.
Before his rant against God, Duterte had outraged Catholics when, during the launch of his presidential campaign over two years ago, he cursed Pope Francis for causing traffic in Manila.
Duterte also made similar remarks in his meeting with the Filipino community in South Korea on June 3. Also citing the story of Adam and Eve, Duterte said in South Korea, Kung yan ang Diyos ng Katoliko, torpe yan. Maghanap ka ng Diyos na tama.
A week after Duterte made these comments in South Korea, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas wrote a stinging reflection about people cursing God. (READ: He is insane. He is possessed.)
The list of cuss words against God is endless. God is still God and those who have cursed Him are now dust, Villegas said in a reflection on June 10.
When you spit upwards, your spit will return to your face. The more you spit at God, the more spit you bring to your face. It is the law of gravity. It is also the law of divine justice, he added.
Villegas, former president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines, also urged Catholics to pray for people who teach them error.
Dear children, as for those who dare to teach you error, pray for them and forgive them. They might be insane or possessed. They need God. They need your prayers and love and compassion, said Villegas.
After fierce criticism for his threats against priests amidst recent killings of clergymen, Duterte insisted in a speech that he "respects" the Church.
Steve Allen, the original host of the Tonight Show made these same arguments against the Bible and Judeo-Christian faith. Ole Steve asked rhetorically why mankind should suffer because of original sin. He failed to understand the sister doctrine of free will.
They didn’t die.
Don’t be concerned. You’ll meet Him sooner or later.
Does Duterte think he's right?
What are the odds?
What REALLY get me is that the Filipino women get themselves pregnant, then irrationally implicate men!
At least he’s read a portion of the Bible. Doesn’t seem as if the Pope has a copy.
Im laughing about this because the holier-than-thou crowd on this site worships this dictator because he slaughters drug users.
What do you think about your hero now? This should be a fun thread.
Oh did you mean that as sarcasm? Because it’s so true!
Blame the public schools! Blame Planned Parenthood! Blame the Catholic Church! Blame Duterte! Blame feminism! Blame patriarcho-Nazi oppressive biological constructs!!
Oh, heck, blame Trump!
I dunno, I can’t see this going over too well in the Phillipines. They are devout with a capital D. People actually crucify themselves during holy week. Sure, not everyone. But name another place where this happens even once, much less every year. Mocking God and the bible seems like an irrational choice.
Adam and Eve are still with us?? No.
Adam and Eve are still with us?? No.
Adam and Eve, the first people to NOT read the Apple terms and conditions.
No one is innocent in this game, but over there they are taught to play the game very early on.
Not bad! Certainly not the last.
Original sin is a Christian interpretation. Judaism does not have original sin. Since Genesis is part of the Hebrew Scriptures, one could conclude the Christian interpretation is mistaken.
This fool will find out who God is.
I thought only people who lived in trailer parks were guilty of this "offense."[/sarcasm]
If our local Fil-Am community (to which I am quite close) is any example, at least up until the last couple years* or so, a man who got involved with a woman who is a US citizen would be considerably more likely to have her attempt to “trap” him in the manner you suggest, than if he’d gotten involved with a Filipina living in RP.
Granted that most of the Filipinas in our local community were above average income (in RP) when they met their American husband. Most also now have good to quite good jobs here (many work like heck!) and are NOT really dependent on their US husbands to get by, once they’ve been here a few years.
*That caveat because I’ve been so busy with parents’ care the last couple years, I must leave the very recent past out as a data point.
Should have said “American husband-to-be”...
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