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8 Reasons Why Trump’s John Bolton Appointment is Causing a Frenzy Among Jews
JP ^ | 3/24/18 | JTA

Posted on 03/24/2018 10:06:46 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

You may have heard: President Donald Trump replaced his national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, with John Bolton.

You may have heard because of the mixed reaction to the prospect of Bolton running national security — “mixed” as in apocalyptic among leftists and heaven-sent to many on the right.

Look no further than the pro-Israel spectrum for each extremes:

“We are horrified by his selection to be national security adviser and believe this move by the president gravely imperils our country’s national standing and the fundamental security of the United States and its allies, including Israel,” said Jeremy Ben-Ami, the president of J Street, the dovish Middle East peace policy lobby.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apocalyptic; hrmcmaster; israel; jeremybenami; jerusalem; jews; johnbolton; jstreet; letshavejerusalem; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; waronterror
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To: DesertRhino

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3642189/posts


61 posted on 03/24/2018 3:33:21 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: DesertRhino

“... that Genesis passage was ultimately referring to the USA as God’s chosen people.”

And THAT is a USA-centric version of that notorious spawn of Satan called “Replacement Theology.” You’d do well to get shet of it before it’s author gets the best of you.


62 posted on 03/24/2018 4:59:47 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yeah? I guess that’s why I was privileged to hear Mr. Bolton speak in person at my Orthodox synagogue a few years ago. Because Jews hate him so much they invited him there. Let’s get something straight—JStreet is strictly a product of reform “jews” and other libtards. It does not speak for people following an authentic Jewish life. I think Mr. Bolton is brilliant and we are lucky to have him aboard.


63 posted on 03/24/2018 7:11:04 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: nevergore

False dichotomy.


65 posted on 03/24/2018 10:42:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

With our military hardware we gave them. They are a terrible burden.

My last post got removed for saying “Israel is a burden”. Evangelicals have ruined this site. Why do you think Freepathons take forever now?


66 posted on 03/24/2018 10:48:22 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Looks like the Jew-haters are out in force on this thread.

These are the same people who would have gladly poured out every drop of blood and every dollar in the treasury to fight for Rhodesia, South Africa, and Nationalist China.

67 posted on 03/25/2018 8:12:50 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: txhurl
Do Jews have words to differentiate themselves from each other based on degree of Orthodoxy? I probably need to know them if they do.

The main divisions in the US are Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox. Elsewhere they may go by different labels. (E.g. I know Conservative is Masorti in Israel.) Reform is geneally considered the least observant, Orthodox the most, and Conservative somewhere in between. There is also a group that calls itself Reconstructionist. I've never met any of these SFAIAA, but my understanding is that they are mostly Jews by birth who celebrate the traditions but are non-Biblical.

If I was brought up as anything it was Reform, and when I returned to Judaism as an adult I started at a Reform Congregation. But I learned too much there and moved on to a Conservative Congregation which is really "Conservadox." (I.e. Our services are virtually identical to the Orthodox services, but women participate fully and microphones are permitted.) Most other Conservative synagogues that I have visited omit parts of the service, mostly to shorten it it appears to me. Some also add some words that remember Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, and Leah, in addition to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Some are led entirely by a rabbi and/or cantor. (At my synagogue, the rabbi never leads. The services are mostly lay led.)

As for divisions among the Orthodox, I am not an expert, but the major division seems to be between the Hareidi (Black Hats) and the Modern Orthodox. But there are lots of other divisions. Despite claims by each that they are most "authentic," no one stones adulteresses to death as is commanded in the Torah.

There is also a division in each group between Sephardic and Ashkenasi. The Sephardi have their roots mostly in the Muslim lands, and the Ashkenasi have their roots mostly in Eastern Europe.

ML/NJ

68 posted on 03/25/2018 10:12:47 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The real reason: 70% of Jews voted for Hillary, 25% for Trump. ANY real conservative will causing whining among them.


69 posted on 03/25/2018 10:17:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: EinNYC

Absolutely correct!
God Bless You & Your Family!


70 posted on 03/25/2018 11:27:06 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Right Brigade

It’s not over yet.

There’s still a remnant and there always has been. These days while “Christians” are falling over for apostasy and evil doctrines, it’s interesting to note that well over 1/3 of all new evangelicals are Messianic Jews or previously Jewish people.

https://www.gotquestions.org/all-Israel-saved.html


71 posted on 03/25/2018 11:30:53 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: x

J-Street are libtards. That’s why they protest.


72 posted on 03/25/2018 11:31:39 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: ConservativeMind

Yes, Spiritual Israel. The Israel of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Their descendants - spiritually. Not physically.


73 posted on 03/25/2018 11:33:23 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Bryanw92

Matthew 24 (quite frankly almost all of Matthew), the book of Hebrews, and parts of Romans in the New Testament focuses clearly on Israel - the nation and Jews.

Ezekiel 37, 38, 39; Zechariah 12, Daniel and parts of Isaiah also have not been fulfilled. Israel is the subject.

Please read Romans 11 - this is extremely important, not just for you, but Jews also. God is still with them. Calling them. Daily!

Romans 11:25-27 states this:
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;

he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

27 And this is my covenant with them

when I take away their sins.”

This “FULLNESS OF GENTILES” is almost complete. Could happen any day. God cannot reject Himself or His Covenants. That’s a lie of the devil.


74 posted on 03/25/2018 11:39:15 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: DesertRhino

“Genesis passage was ultimately referring to the USA”

Most evangelical / fundamental scholars don’t believe the USA is referred to in any manner from Genesis to Revelation. It makes a person wonder if we will survive as a nation.


75 posted on 03/25/2018 11:45:55 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: txhurl

If you mean within the realm of Orthodoxy, the two main Orthodox groups in the US are the Orthodox Union and Agudath Israel. There are also independent hassidic groups.

OU covers a spectrum from ‘Modern Orthodox’ centered around Yeshiva University, to ‘black hat frum’ from European style smaller yeshivas.

Agudath is only ‘black hat’ traditional and includes some hassidic groups. Ner Yisrael Yehiva near Baltimore is a common place for Agudath education.

The late Rabbi Moshe Feinstein was a towering figure in American Jewry, reverenced by both groups.

I’m leaving out Sefardim, who in America are mostly more like Reform, but who nominally seem to maintain Orthodoxy in personal status questions.


76 posted on 03/25/2018 12:01:02 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: EEGator

Enjoy your vacay.


78 posted on 03/25/2018 12:04:58 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: EinNYC

Thanks for posting that info.


79 posted on 03/25/2018 12:06:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: EEGator

That one earned you some well deserved time off.


80 posted on 03/25/2018 12:08:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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