Posted on 01/10/2018 12:13:36 PM PST by Jewbacca
I learned today "Oprah" Winfrey was born "Orpah" Winfrey.
"Orpah" is a very interesting Biblical name, one up there with Hamen and Pharoah.
It means, in this context "neck" and is a specific reference to turning away from G-d.
Specifically, Orpah was the sister and sister-in-law of Ruth, married to Chillion.
When the two brothers died, their mother-in-law (Naomi) urged the sisters to return to their people and to their "gods."
Ruth refused.
Orpah gladly recanted her adopted people and G-d, and went back to Moab. There she "gave" herself to so many men she was likened to a threshing floor.
After her adventures, she bore four giant sons, one of which was Goliath.
Another giant son was Ishbi-benob, who was killed by David's right-hand-general, Abishai.
Abishai, himself, killed Orpah with a spindle.
Anyway, Orpah is easily one of the foulest, most anti-Semitic, women in the entire Bible, and it is very strange to name a kid after her.
Or Orca. ;)
And who was Goliaths father?
By you definition I guess King David was a Moabite.
Or Orca. ;)
IT’s all in the family. Moabites were descendants of Lot.........
I already have.
Also 4 generations in this era was about 60 years.
Interesting, though I suspect that OrpahnWinfrey’s parents were familiar only with the accounts in the Bible.
Making this additional information interesting but inapplicable.
Thanks for posting and taking the flames. People who havent actually read the Bible are not ready for the extra material. First one has to understand the Salvation Plan specified in the Tanauck and commented on by the Gospels and letters. Then one can enjoy things like finding out that Esau sold his birthright because he was exhausted from killing Nimrod and his guard.
“Ts all in the family. Moabites were descendants of Lot.........”
Ha, true.
But the line is even more direct. Ruth and Orpah’s father was a minor Moabite “king” and had aligned himself with the Philistines by, once again, marrying off his daughter.
Jeez, she came that close to having her company named Hapro Productions. It doesnt have the same ring as Harpo Productions.
That’s what they did back in those days, to keep peace.
Solomon married a daughter of the current Pharaoh of Egypt (it was allowed), so the Pharaoh attacked Gaza (then a Philistine Provence) and sacked it then gave it them as a ‘wedding present’. The Egyptians didn’t want it then and they don’t want it now, either...........................
“Interesting, though I suspect that OrpahnWinfreys parents were familiar only with the accounts in the Bible.
Making this additional information interesting but inapplicable.”
Maybe, or they weren’t deep thinkers.
Even if one just relied on the text of the Book of Ruth, you see a woman loved by her sister and her mother-in-law — AND — who was a serious candidate for conversion. Naomi urged them to go three times — Ruth said no three times. Orpah said no twice, and recanted G-d (and women and people she loved and who loved her) on the the third time.
It sets her and her family to be the nemesis of Ruth and her family.
Everything after Oprah turning back is not in Scripture. Even the nature of Oprah’s departure is miscast: she had to be persuaded to leave.
There is also Goliath was from Gath, and not from any place in Moab. Gath is to the West of Bethlehem, Moab is generally to the south west. The Moabites and Philistines are, moreover, two entirely separate peoples.
A very good point.
“Thanks for posting and taking the flames. People who havent actually read the Bible are not ready for the extra material. First one has to understand the Salvation Plan specified in the Tanauck . . . “
You’re very welcome.
Don’t know about the Nazarine writings, but I do have to laugh at Nazarines who reject anything not in the 4 corners of the Bible -— notably because the entire concept of heaven and eternal life they harp on is promised in the Talmud and not the Tanukah.
This was actually the major dispute between the Sadducee’s (who rejected the oral law) and the Pharisees.
Moab is to the south EAST.
I hate typos....
“Everything after Oprah turning back is not in Scripture.”
I really don’t care about incomplete Nazarine scriptures. See post above. And this is posted under the Jewish group for a reason.
Your other comments are addressed here, already.
If you don’t care then don’t post where people are going to predictably take issue with your latter day rebbinical fantasies.
“Rabbinical” ... darn typos
Paul who now?
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