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To: Jewbacca

Everything after Oprah turning back is not in Scripture. Even the nature of Oprah’s departure is miscast: she had to be persuaded to leave.

There is also Goliath was from Gath, and not from any place in Moab. Gath is to the West of Bethlehem, Moab is generally to the south west. The Moabites and Philistines are, moreover, two entirely separate peoples.


33 posted on 01/10/2018 1:27:14 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Moab is to the south EAST.
I hate typos....


36 posted on 01/10/2018 1:34:15 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

“Everything after Oprah turning back is not in Scripture.”

I really don’t care about incomplete Nazarine scriptures. See post above. And this is posted under the Jewish group for a reason.

Your other comments are addressed here, already.


37 posted on 01/10/2018 1:35:51 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Rurudyne

The alliance between Orpahs Moabite father and the Philistenes has already been discussed here. You don’t even need a Talmud for that one, try archaeology.


48 posted on 01/10/2018 1:54:58 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Rurudyne
Everything after Oprah turning back is not in Scripture. Even the nature of Oprah’s departure is miscast: she had to be persuaded to leave.

There is also Goliath was from Gath, and not from any place in Moab. Gath is to the West of Bethlehem, Moab is generally to the south west. The Moabites and Philistines are, moreover, two entirely separate peoples.

The Bible is certainly the ultimate source of truth, and we know from Ruth 1:15 that Naomi told Ruth "Behold, thy sister in law [Orpah] is gone back unto her people, and unto her gods." Orpah might have been persuaded to do so, but Ruth was similarly persuaded and refused to turn her back on Naomi or the God of Israel.

That said, the Bible is not the only source of history. There is historical evidence of a political alliance between the Eglon King of Moab and the Philistine king of Gath, and it is believed that Orpah was remarried to one of the giants still living in Moab. It would not be inconsistent with similar biblical themes in which a bad choice results in enmity and strife between successive generations of Israel and its enemies.

51 posted on 01/10/2018 2:00:50 PM PST by Always A Marine ("I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation")
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To: Rurudyne

Did jewbacca ever explain this? It sounds like it can’t be the bible’s version and his talmud version.


54 posted on 01/10/2018 2:37:22 PM PST by Blue Highway
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