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Gay man is left stunned and hurt after Catholic pastor bans him from singing at his own grandmother
dailymail.uk ^ | December 1, 2016 | Miranda Bryant For Dailymail.com

Posted on 12/02/2016 8:28:13 AM PST by Morgana

Edited on 12/04/2016 11:59:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

FULL TITLE: Gay man is left stunned and hurt after Catholic pastor bans him from singing at his own grandmother's funeral because of his sexuality, insisting that it would 'cause a scandal'

A gay man has told of his shock and disbelief after a Catholic pastor banned him from singing at his grandmother's funeral because of his sexuality.


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TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; sin
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1 posted on 12/02/2016 8:28:13 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
Do these gay people have signs on their forehead? Why does the whole damn town know about him?

The're simply antagonists looking for 15 minutes.

2 posted on 12/02/2016 8:31:10 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The short answer, don’t post your whole life on facebook. Yes the whole town knew he was gay.


3 posted on 12/02/2016 8:32:29 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Just a suggestion: He could have changed the venue to the funeral home. My Mom wanted a videotape of Dad’s funeral service. Her church said no, the funeral home said yes, so she changed the venue. It isn’t rocket science.


4 posted on 12/02/2016 8:32:45 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Morgana

Why was he thinking he would be allowed to sing in the first place. I’m betting the family who made the arrangements are telling him to “get lost”....


5 posted on 12/02/2016 8:33:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Morgana
And I am shocked - shocked, do you hear - that the imam of the local mosque where a Muslim coworker of mine was getting married REFUSED to let me sing just because I _______ (fill in the blank).

People have got to stop being so easily offended. The grandmother wanted to be buried according to the Roman Catholic rite - so you abide by their rules.

Regards,

6 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:36 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Morgana

he’s used to butthurt. he’ll be fine.


7 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:44 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Morgana

I’d wonder if there are more details than shown in the story, that this is more than a long-ago thing with him and they really don’t want the scandal, or to be played by it as though they had suddenly affirmed the lifestyle. Ave Maria is a classic Catholic devotional (as crazy evangelical I don’t believe its theology, but understand its religious significance in the Catholic context).

Basically, the church is refusing to be used against its own conscience, if I sense this right. And that is the church’s right. If the family wanted to have a separate non-church memorial, then they could have this fellow and do whatever else they wanted.


8 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Vigilanteman; Chode

The grandparents were devout Catholic and as such, this would be out of the question. Not just for them but the rest of the family who still follows the faith. It must be done at a funeral Mass in church.


9 posted on 12/02/2016 8:35:02 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

[’The priest’s reasoning is by attending such event, I am opposing the Catholic Church’s fundamental marriage belief,’ Connor wrote on Facebook.]

CONNOR wasn’t going to ‘attend’ the event. He wanted to take part in a holy ceremony and sing Franz Schubert’s Ave Maria.


10 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:00 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Sacajaweau

And if they are, it’s being quite ignored... and blamed on the church.


11 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Morgana

Homosexuals have the legal right not to be discriminated against on the job. They do not have the legal right to sing at a Catholic funeral. What is the matter with these people???


12 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:19 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Palio di Siena; All

EXACTLY!!!

Who has the official Free Republic Butthurt form for this man???


13 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:31 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Smart thinking.


14 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:33 AM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: txrefugee

He was not a church member. he is excommunicated ipso facto by his homosexual actions. Only way for him to come back into the church is stop being gay and go to confession.


15 posted on 12/02/2016 8:38:05 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
Much as I would support this Pastor if he denied this man the opportunity to serve on the altar, or receive Communion, I disagree with his actions here. Singing at a Funeral Service , even if it does involve a Mass, isn't taking part in the actual Mass. It is more like a show of love for the departed friend or family member. Even if the whole town knows he's homosexual, I don't believe his singing is going to cause a scandal. I think the Pastor's actions will cause more hurt in the long run.

The Pastor could simply have told the man privately that though his public actions would keep him from receiving Communion, or taking part in the Mass in any other way, his honoring his Grandmother by simply singing Ave Maria would be OK. Who knows, it might have even given this man pause, and have him see the Church for her mercy, and maybe moved him to reconsider his choice of lifestyle down the road. The Pastor's actions here will make that much less likely.

16 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:30 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Morgana

If you read the letter, he wasn’t singled out for being gay. If he had been a divorced and remarried hetero, the same restriction would have applied. It’s simply the Catholic church (specifically this parish) taking a stand on what they will and will not permit during the course of a Mass in their facility. I respect that. He’s just choosing to make it a gay issue, because it has to be all about him. It isn’t.


17 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:32 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: Morgana

Choices have consequences. He chooses to be gay and being banned from singing in the church is a consequence.


18 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:47 AM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: Morgana
'They saw beyond race, religion, sexuality, and social class. They loved everyone. 'That is what is means to be a Christian. That is what it means to be Catholic.'

Righhht!

For this snowflake being Catholic means there are no standards, no rules, no ethics, no morality. There is only love of self and doing whatever pleases him.

19 posted on 12/02/2016 8:41:09 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Basically, the church is refusing to be used against its own conscience, if I sense this right.”

Thanks for understanding this so well.

As a Catholic, I am happy to see a priest who will stand on this principle.

If he had caved, no one would have said “boo” to him, so this is an act of courage.


20 posted on 12/02/2016 8:41:18 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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