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1 posted on 12/02/2016 8:28:13 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
Do these gay people have signs on their forehead? Why does the whole damn town know about him?

The're simply antagonists looking for 15 minutes.

2 posted on 12/02/2016 8:31:10 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Just a suggestion: He could have changed the venue to the funeral home. My Mom wanted a videotape of Dad’s funeral service. Her church said no, the funeral home said yes, so she changed the venue. It isn’t rocket science.


4 posted on 12/02/2016 8:32:45 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Why was he thinking he would be allowed to sing in the first place. I’m betting the family who made the arrangements are telling him to “get lost”....


5 posted on 12/02/2016 8:33:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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And I am shocked - shocked, do you hear - that the imam of the local mosque where a Muslim coworker of mine was getting married REFUSED to let me sing just because I _______ (fill in the blank).

People have got to stop being so easily offended. The grandmother wanted to be buried according to the Roman Catholic rite - so you abide by their rules.

Regards,

6 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:36 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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he’s used to butthurt. he’ll be fine.


7 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:44 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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I’d wonder if there are more details than shown in the story, that this is more than a long-ago thing with him and they really don’t want the scandal, or to be played by it as though they had suddenly affirmed the lifestyle. Ave Maria is a classic Catholic devotional (as crazy evangelical I don’t believe its theology, but understand its religious significance in the Catholic context).

Basically, the church is refusing to be used against its own conscience, if I sense this right. And that is the church’s right. If the family wanted to have a separate non-church memorial, then they could have this fellow and do whatever else they wanted.


8 posted on 12/02/2016 8:34:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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[’The priest’s reasoning is by attending such event, I am opposing the Catholic Church’s fundamental marriage belief,’ Connor wrote on Facebook.]

CONNOR wasn’t going to ‘attend’ the event. He wanted to take part in a holy ceremony and sing Franz Schubert’s Ave Maria.


10 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:00 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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Homosexuals have the legal right not to be discriminated against on the job. They do not have the legal right to sing at a Catholic funeral. What is the matter with these people???


12 posted on 12/02/2016 8:36:19 AM PST by txrefugee
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Much as I would support this Pastor if he denied this man the opportunity to serve on the altar, or receive Communion, I disagree with his actions here. Singing at a Funeral Service , even if it does involve a Mass, isn't taking part in the actual Mass. It is more like a show of love for the departed friend or family member. Even if the whole town knows he's homosexual, I don't believe his singing is going to cause a scandal. I think the Pastor's actions will cause more hurt in the long run.

The Pastor could simply have told the man privately that though his public actions would keep him from receiving Communion, or taking part in the Mass in any other way, his honoring his Grandmother by simply singing Ave Maria would be OK. Who knows, it might have even given this man pause, and have him see the Church for her mercy, and maybe moved him to reconsider his choice of lifestyle down the road. The Pastor's actions here will make that much less likely.

16 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:30 AM PST by SuziQ
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If you read the letter, he wasn’t singled out for being gay. If he had been a divorced and remarried hetero, the same restriction would have applied. It’s simply the Catholic church (specifically this parish) taking a stand on what they will and will not permit during the course of a Mass in their facility. I respect that. He’s just choosing to make it a gay issue, because it has to be all about him. It isn’t.


17 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:32 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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Choices have consequences. He chooses to be gay and being banned from singing in the church is a consequence.


18 posted on 12/02/2016 8:40:47 AM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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'They saw beyond race, religion, sexuality, and social class. They loved everyone. 'That is what is means to be a Christian. That is what it means to be Catholic.'

Righhht!

For this snowflake being Catholic means there are no standards, no rules, no ethics, no morality. There is only love of self and doing whatever pleases him.

19 posted on 12/02/2016 8:41:09 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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Conner’s just upset because he couldn’t make it all about him at his grandma’s funeral.

Suck it up buttercup.

(Oops...poor choice of words.)


21 posted on 12/02/2016 8:41:30 AM PST by moovova
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A. Did this really happen or is it a hoax? (common)
B. Did the family want ANYONE singing a the funeral?
C. Did the family not want him there for other reasons?
D. What are we not being told? Likely more to this.


25 posted on 12/02/2016 8:44:53 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Did the family want him to sing? What is requested by them? Was it a request by his grandmother that he sing at her funeral? If so, then he has a beef.

If, on the other hand, he just wanted to show up and interject himself into the proceedings, then he has not grounds on which to base his claims.


26 posted on 12/02/2016 8:46:12 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Somewhere Jeb weeps. (please clap))
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It was a very nice letter that the priest wrote to him explaining the reason he would not let the grandson sing at Mass and offered him alternatives.

I guess the guy wanted the priest to bow down to his lifestyle.


27 posted on 12/02/2016 8:46:36 AM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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Maybe the priest had no need for a soprano singer?


30 posted on 12/02/2016 8:48:40 AM PST by donozark (Bella Hadid is inundating me with text messages. And I do not even have a texting package.)
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'That is what is means to be a Christian. That is what it means to be Catholic.'

Being Christian means at least trying to follow Christ's commandments and not sin, and in particular, not flaunting one's sin or expecting acceptance of it.

31 posted on 12/02/2016 8:48:56 AM PST by PGR88
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His own family must not have wanted him to sing or they could have moved this event to anywhere else in the world where this pastor has no say in what happens.


46 posted on 12/02/2016 9:10:23 AM PST by lerker
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There is likely a lot more to this than the one-sided story presented here.

I can't see any priest objecting to an appropriately performed song at a funeral. Suspect the complainer had something inappropriate in mind, e.g., a garish or flamboyant act that might be ok elsewhere, but not in a church - and not at a funeral.

The complainer was probably free to ask that the relative's funeral be held somewhere other than a church. And to have a secular person preside. But perhaps his other relatives wanted a traditional service. And they have rights too.

56 posted on 12/02/2016 9:34:11 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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