Posted on 06/30/2015 7:15:06 AM PDT by keats5
By now, you have heard the Supreme Court issued its long-anticipated decision that imposed a 50-state same-sex marriage mandate. Pastors and churches have exhibited a great degree of uncertainty preceding this moment, wondering what the effect will be on their ministry. Now that the decision has been released, though, we can respond with greater clarity.
Here are the immediate things you need to know.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegospelcoalition.org ...
http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/content/campaign/2014/church/SOGI-Handbook.pdf
I would not want to be in church leadership now.. The right thing to do is say no. But the attack wont stop there.
Friends in my industry are reporting strange fishing calls. Asking if they can recover photos on a damaged SD card, then when told yes, they say they are from a pride event and may have men kissing men and other things, is that ok? Friend says “I don’t care, I don’t look at the photos. just the file names to see if they can be recovered” then the caller says OK thank you and hangs up. Never asks prices or sets up a time to bring it in.
Here’s what I know: when the Supreme Court imposes a rule on the nation that leaves churches in fear and enemies of religion planning the downfall of churches through either taxation or lawsuits, it’s a total violation of the separation of church and state and a betrayal of the founding principles of the nation. And oh yeah, it’s bad law that’s bad for the nation. But then again, it’s not actually law, is it? It’s fiat.
This is what I was told.If it comes down to it you will get married by a Justice of the Peace and then married in the Church.I am talking the Catholic Church.
Although a few members groused around that the revisions were overly "harsh" and not necessary, when the vote came it was unanimous.
Bump for reference.
Unless we go on the aggressive offensive, we might as well do nothing.
Then, those members should be questioned to learn the genuineness of their Christianity, and expelled if found wanting.
They would not be lying there, as they can preform outdoors, in another building, wedding chapels.
One step further for instance, my Church pastor uses your Church to preform the wedding, then your Pastor can use our Church building to do the same. There is absolutely no lying, in saying "I do not preform any marriage ceremonies in this Church building. Reciprocate.
“Consequently, pastors should refrain from retreating from marriage ceremonies. Some have suggested pastors disengage from “civil marriage” and only perform religious ceremonies. This type of reaction is not only legally unnecessary, but it sends the message pastors have “abdicated the field” on the battleground of marriage. Instead, pastors should engage more fervently in advocating and expounding the truth about marriage by maintaining a faithful witness to whom they will marry and whom they will not.”
The pastors/priests that have done this or are thinking about doing this are doing it because they are demonstrating in a concrete way that the state’s definition of marriage and their faith’s are/have become different. They look at it as the exact opposite of ‘abdicating the field,’ as opposed to cooperating as agents of the state who can’t get the simple definition of marriage right. As far as I have seen they are all conservative. Of course that doesn’t mean that clergy that continue to act as agents of the state aren’t conservative.
Freegards
bfl
The problem will be the eventual lawsuits, which will cost millions to defend.
>I would not want to be in church leadership now.
>The right thing to do is say no.
>But the attack wont stop there.
Our Pastor is ready to go to jail and I am ready to go with him. Woe to those who call good evil and evil good, who put darkness for light, and light for darkness. Isaiah 5:20. This is the beginning of the great falling away. The spiritual fallout is clear, God’s wrath is upon this nation. God’s wrath is to let them do what they want. And don’t expect God to continue to protect the USA, especially if the policy of not supporting Israel continues. I feel sad saying this but I’m just the messenger. There is hope, we may be living in a time where the elect will not have to feel the sting of death, we will be translated.
-Frank
Later.
BTTT!
Some good advice for all pastors.....preach it.
Go to the Bible!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3306092/posts
(...and to prosecute, I might add).
This decision by the Supremes is the second in the week to benefit trial lawyers at the expense of taxpayers. What lucrative gifts from the corrupt black-robed lawyers of the SCOTUS to their fellow attorneys in the private sector and on government payrolls!
It's blatant crony-judicialism, if I may coin a new phrase.
Leni
Being in Church leadership today puts a bulls eye on your back. Democrats will focus on destroying you. They have wiped out most of the foundational truths on morality, and they will not stop until all semblance of morality (They Established Church) is wiped ouf of this nation. The Sodomites are gaining power
Churches also have to examine any outside activities they sponsor.
When Boy Scouts announced that they would accept openly homosexual boys, the church that chartered our troop called me to let me know that they would have to cut us loose. They said that since they do not do homosexual weddings or allow homosexual members, they would lose any court case if they were a charter sponsor of a BSA troop.
I replied that it was OK, because our troop was jettisoning BSA anyway.
Check out my tagline to see where we landed.
“I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.”
Cardinal Francis George - 2010
I wonder how many in 2010 thought he was speaking hyperbole?
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