Posted on 03/06/2015 9:56:03 AM PST by bad company
I often have to hear how people say about our Church, You know, I dont go to your church and wont go, because its like a train station therewho dont you see there? It would be alright if they were good people, but theyre not! I met one of them. Do you know what sort of man he is? And that girl is not any better. I wont even mention the rest. And they go to services, cross themselves and dont even blush
Why are there so many unfortunate, wretched, broken lives, strange and simply bad people in the Church, while the saints and righteous ones are hardly to be found? This scandalizes and turns away many.
But this is in fact the most remarkable thing, that there are only sick people all around! It means that you have come to the right place. It means that everything you have read in the Gospels and heard about Christ is true.
Who did the Lord take to heaven first? The repentant thief. Publicans, harlots, lepers, and the demonically possessed came to Him from all around. Not the righteous. The sick. All the rest had no time for Him. There were just fine without Him.
Just fine, without God. The Gospel calls this state death. Because the soul without God is a dead soul.
People are always confusing the Heavenly Church with the earthly Church. From this comes the misunderstanding, doubts, and confusion. All the saints and righteous ones are there, in the Kingdom of Heaven. But here on earth, the Church is a hospital for sins, spiritual illnesses and death. In our Church there is only one who is absolutely healthy, pure, perfect, and sinless. He is our Lord and God Jesus Christ. And it is by His power that the Church is delivered, treated, and cured.
Why is it that when we see sick, lame, and coughing people in an ordinary hospital no one gets the desire to point to his temples, turn heel and run? That is why it is a hospital, so that the sick would come and be healed. This is even more true for the Church, where it is not the body being healed, but the eternal soul. That sick people come with terrible wounds and diseases testifies to the power of the doctor they are seeking. Sinners who have resolved to be delivered from their sins and death testify to Christ.
And when I look at people in church, my heart is filled with joy, because the Lord is here, with us, and He is healing. Sometimes people themselves dont know why they go to church. The pain itself, the wounds that wont stop gnawing at their hearts lead them here. Then suddenly, it all goes away. Without understanding the services, in general vaguely understanding what is going on, the person suddenly feels that he is now better. Hethat is he, the hearthis heart, though just recently bleeding it is now peaceful and well. People can lie, books can deceive, but your own heart tells the truth. And this is the most remarkable thing that you can feel in the Church.
Plus, the church is often where you find people after they’ve discovered how badly they can mess up their own lives thinking that they didn’t have to listen to God’s Word. I ask myself why churches seem to have more old people than young ones and this is why. As you age, you realize how limited you are and how much you need divine help. The young often have to figure this out the hard way first before they pay attention.
Just like you don’t need to see healthy people in a hospital you don’t need to see sinless people in church.
We are all sinners and not good enough, the last perfect man on this earth got up and got out of here a long time ago!
Just as sick people need to go to the hospital to get well, just as there are lots of other sick people there, sinners need to go to Church. They need to repent and reconcile themselves to God.
“I do have problems with is the idea that bad things only happen to people who deserve it. Is that a Catholic thing or a Protestant thing?”
Sounds like a belief in karma. Hearing that a bad person has come to grief, some observe that `karma’s a b!tch’.
Not unlike Schadenfreude.
Kinda makes the caste system make sense.
That's a people that don't read the bible thing. Having traveled from Evangelical protestant to Eastern Orthodox, I have found it lurking everywhere.
Exactly, and by extension a disbelief in God.
The concept of eternal forgiveness is a powerful tool for hypocrites. If you’re in the market for excuses to monger confession and being “saved” are perfect for you.
Remember Jesus calls sinners.
But you do need the fellowship of other Christian believers as well. That is also said in the Bible. Hebrews.
There are just as many bad people in Church as there are outside of Church.
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
AMEN!
One thing I do have problems with is the idea that bad things only happen to people who deserve it. Is that a Catholic thing or a Protestant thing?
I believe that is an Old Testament thing.
Cause that’s where all my friends are...
Where should they be/
Church is not a rest home for saints. Church is a hospital for sinners.
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