Posted on 03/06/2015 9:56:03 AM PST by bad company
I often have to hear how people say about our Church, You know, I dont go to your church and wont go, because its like a train station therewho dont you see there? It would be alright if they were good people, but theyre not! I met one of them. Do you know what sort of man he is? And that girl is not any better. I wont even mention the rest. And they go to services, cross themselves and dont even blush
Why are there so many unfortunate, wretched, broken lives, strange and simply bad people in the Church, while the saints and righteous ones are hardly to be found? This scandalizes and turns away many.
But this is in fact the most remarkable thing, that there are only sick people all around! It means that you have come to the right place. It means that everything you have read in the Gospels and heard about Christ is true.
Who did the Lord take to heaven first? The repentant thief. Publicans, harlots, lepers, and the demonically possessed came to Him from all around. Not the righteous. The sick. All the rest had no time for Him. There were just fine without Him.
Just fine, without God. The Gospel calls this state death. Because the soul without God is a dead soul.
People are always confusing the Heavenly Church with the earthly Church. From this comes the misunderstanding, doubts, and confusion. All the saints and righteous ones are there, in the Kingdom of Heaven. But here on earth, the Church is a hospital for sins, spiritual illnesses and death. In our Church there is only one who is absolutely healthy, pure, perfect, and sinless. He is our Lord and God Jesus Christ. And it is by His power that the Church is delivered, treated, and cured.
Why is it that when we see sick, lame, and coughing people in an ordinary hospital no one gets the desire to point to his temples, turn heel and run? That is why it is a hospital, so that the sick would come and be healed. This is even more true for the Church, where it is not the body being healed, but the eternal soul. That sick people come with terrible wounds and diseases testifies to the power of the doctor they are seeking. Sinners who have resolved to be delivered from their sins and death testify to Christ.
And when I look at people in church, my heart is filled with joy, because the Lord is here, with us, and He is healing. Sometimes people themselves dont know why they go to church. The pain itself, the wounds that wont stop gnawing at their hearts lead them here. Then suddenly, it all goes away. Without understanding the services, in general vaguely understanding what is going on, the person suddenly feels that he is now better. Hethat is he, the hearthis heart, though just recently bleeding it is now peaceful and well. People can lie, books can deceive, but your own heart tells the truth. And this is the most remarkable thing that you can feel in the Church.
They are sometimes bad because God finds you where she is at.
Because we are all fallen creatures, prone to sin.
You will not find perfect people anywhere.
We’re all “bad”. That’s the point.
i hear a lot of people saying they haven’t been to church for ages and can’t go because they are big sinners.
Well the whole church is full of sinners, that’s where you should go to get better!
Because there’s no teaching in the church anymore.
Too many are involved in “social justice”; feeding the poor; protesting, etc.
Instead of STUDYING THE BIBLE .. and learning what it says and how it relates to the individual. Too much group think.
ONe might as well ask why you mainly see fat or
sick people in health food stores.
Who said the Church is a hospital for sinners, not a hotel for saints? Or something like that.
good grief, it was dear Abby, I thought it was a pope who said it.
***It would be alright if they were good people, but theyre not!***
MARK 2:
15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Abigail Van Buren was quoting someone. It may have been George Craig Stewart, Episcopal Bishop of Chicago (1930-1940).
Amen. The only good Christian is a bad Christian (i.e. one who admits they’ve fallen short).
We shouldn’t be surprised to find sinners in church, any more than we should be surprised to find sick people in a hospital.
Church should be a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints.
I think churches mainly run into problems when they let the loonies run things. Things definitely run smoother when the old ladies are running the day to day, and the old boys put their heads together when things go badly awry.
Interesting link
The point about getting right with God is to change and become a new creature.
One thing I do have problems with is the idea that bad things only happen to people who deserve it. Is that a Catholic thing or a Protestant thing?
Christ came to save the sinners. Rejoice that they are even in church.
Also pray for the lost who do not attend church of any kind.
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