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Are These the “Outer Bands” of a Coming Judgment?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-11-14 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/12/2014 7:40:44 AM PST by Salvation

Are These the “Outer Bands” of a Coming Judgment?

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

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Are we in the “Last Days”? Generally it would seem not, though there are sobering indicators that the outer bands of a coming storm are overhead.

The sum total teaching of eschatology would seem to indicate that a number of things must first happen before the end: a comprehensive completion of the going out of the Gospel to all the nations, widespread acceptance by Israel that Christ is in fact the Messiah, the emergence of an antichrist figure who will deceive the nations, a final, intensive and unprecedented unleashing of evil, etc. (For more on this and for biblical references, see what I have written here: Some basics of eschatology.) And while some claim that many of these have already been accomplished, we do well to heed the caution of St. Paul, who says,

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thess 2:1-4).

So, using the Spirit’s caution through St. Paul, we do well not to conclude too quickly that the end is close at hand, though Christ can surely come anyway “on a sudden.”

However, the same text from St. Paul does describe certain things that precede the end—things that are more clearly in place today.

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work … in those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness (2 Thess 2:10-12).

Now we are clearly living in an age when strong delusion has come upon many. Indeed many seem deeply and profoundly confused as to the basic concepts of human sexuality, the existence of God, and the dignity of human life. Strong delusion is required for the human person to justify the killing of innocent children in the womb. Strong delusion is required for a human person to think that homosexual acts are natural, when any look at the design of the body profoundly indicates otherwise.  Strong delusion is required for a human person to think that suicide is to be praised and is even “courageous.” Strong delusion is required for a person to look at a world that is so clearly designed and governed, and ascribe it all to mindless, blind, totally random mutation.

Indeed a strong delusion is upon many today. Elsewhere, St. Paul also says of those deluded in this way (especially in matters of homosexuality),

But they became vain in their thinking and their foolish minds were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools… Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error (Rom 1:21,26-27).

So it is clear today that the initial requirements for the coming of the lawless one are increasingly in place. A strong delusion has come upon many that will usher in a rebellion and cause the lawless one to be widely accepted. For again, as St. Paul said above,  for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first.

And the text speaks of the cause for this delusion. On a human level, the delusion and rebellion result from that fact that, as St. Paul says, they refused to love the truth and so be saved … [they] did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

So, yielding to their passions (pleasures), and preferring unrighteousness, they refused to love the truth. And do not be mistaken that this refusal is rooted merely in ignorance. No, God has written His truth in the heart of every human person; His voice echoes in the conscience of every human person. God has also written His truth in the book of creation. Therefore, St. Paul says elsewhere,

What may be known about God is plain to all, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that such people are without excuse (Rom 1:19-20).

Thus we are not typically dealing with ignorance. Rather, we are dealing with resistance and rejection. The delusion and rebellion of our times is the result of a preference for sinful pleasures and an active resistance to the truth written on the human heart and in creation. Many, many prefer the darkness of delusion to the light of truth.

Where are we now in an eschatological sense?  It is arguable that we are in the midst of the rebellion and that in fact a strong delusion has come upon many, many people. It is this delusion and rebellion that foreshadows what will happen next: and the man of lawlessness will be revealed.

This does not mean that the lawless one or the antichrist will come next year. Some may argue that times of darkness have come and gone before. However, both the rapidity of the rebellion and the steep decline into deepening darkness present a strong argument for the fact that we, through human sinfulness, are laying the groundwork for the coming of the lawless one, whose unreasonable demands will only make “sense” to a people who have abandoned reason and the clarity of the true faith.

And what of the part of the text that says, “God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false”? Texts like this point to God’s permitting of such things due to his respect for our freedom. God is the primary cause of everything, in that He holds all things in existence and “facilitates” all that happens. The Bible and the ancient world were more comfortable in speaking to this reality of God’s primary causality. A text like this does not mean that God wishes or delights in delusion or rebellion. It means only that He does not withdraw existence from those who do what He detests, and as such He indirectly facilitates it. He does this for the sake of a greater good: our freedom, which is necessary for our love and faith.

So here we are in the midst of a time of rebellion and deep delusion, one that may be serious enough to usher in the final stages. Stay sober, my friends. I do not usually predict the end, but when I do, I look to texts like these, which show the outer bands of a coming storm.



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Where are we now in an eschatological sense? It is arguable that we are in the midst of the rebellion and that in fact a strong delusion has come upon many, many people. It is this delusion and rebellion that foreshadows what will happen next: and the man of lawlessness will be revealed.
1 posted on 11/12/2014 7:40:44 AM PST by Salvation
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Msgr. Pope Ping!


2 posted on 11/12/2014 7:41:38 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

People seem to be forgetting one important thing: THE FINAL HARVEST. When the “man of lawlessness” appears, the CHURCH will already be gone.

I believe we are getting very, very close to the rapture of the church .. however, that event will be precluded by another event called, “The Final Harvest”.

It’s an event so spectacular that people who have been sitting at the edges of Christianity can no longer deny that GOD is real and that accepting HIM as their Savior (through Jesus), will mean they too will be saved from the evils coming upon the earth.

If you’re planning a church .. you need to get it ready.

and .. nobody has to agree with me .. this is just what I believe.


3 posted on 11/12/2014 7:54:31 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: Salvation

His cousin is residing in the White House right now. ;)


4 posted on 11/12/2014 8:11:58 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: CyberAnt

You speak of repture. Wasn’t that quote from the Bible referring to the days of Noah?


5 posted on 11/12/2014 8:13:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“It’s almost official, the democrats are the party of the devil”


6 posted on 11/12/2014 8:19:27 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Salvation

Perhaps not for the world, but the US is in it’s final year.


7 posted on 11/12/2014 8:22:21 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation; Gamecock
Where are we now in an eschatological sense? It is arguable that we are in the midst of the rebellion and that in fact a strong delusion has come upon many, many people. It is this delusion and rebellion that foreshadows what will happen next: and the man of lawlessness will be revealed.

Anyone have that "Oh Lord, someone keyed my Lexus" graphic handy?

8 posted on 11/12/2014 8:36:03 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation

Are These the “Outer Bands” of a Coming Judgment?

Probably not anytime soon.


9 posted on 11/12/2014 8:37:11 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Salvation
I sure hope these verses aren't referring to the RCC.
"so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thess 2:1-4)." I mean with the claims of forgiving sins and being the Vicar of Christ and personally holding "the keys of the kingdom" thing. I mean it would be a strong delusion to fool that many Catholics, right?
10 posted on 11/12/2014 8:41:40 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Salvation
I have an interest in Western Civilization. I read a lot about it. I have come to the conclusion that the world will not end anytime soon. Our country on the other hand is very much in peril, but I think we will right the ship before all is lost.

I mean I am sure there were people during the Civil War here and in France that probably thought the end was coming. Not to mention Nazi Germany, the purges by Stalin. The 1960's in this country. So I think we are being pushed by evil and rebellion, I don't think we are there yet.

11 posted on 11/12/2014 8:43:57 AM PST by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Alex Murphy

12 posted on 11/12/2014 8:53:19 AM PST by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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To: Salvation

Where we are now is so evil, it makes me cry sometimes. I’m not afraid of evil - I know the ending of the story. But the pain and suffering of evil - I can feel this pit of darkness in people and in authority figures of society sometimes.


13 posted on 11/12/2014 9:08:05 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ShadowAce

Perhaps not for the world, but the US is in it’s final year.

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If the U.S. economic system fails (and it will...with the ensuing fall of our government as well), the other economies will also fall. I am interested in why you think that the coming year is when this will take place. I happen to agree with you, but wonder why you think this.


14 posted on 11/12/2014 9:08:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Salvation

It takes a certain conviction of one’s self righteousness, to validate their vanity and delusions.

I’m in court right now listening to a friend, who just can’t see past a legal argument and 30 year pattern of anamoral, self serving life, as well a series of decisions which cheat others out of the value of what rightfully belongs to others.

It’s really a bunch of justifications and ridiculous relativisms, which has cost him relationships with friends and loved ones.

Using the law as one’s moral compass to deny or shield oneself from objective responsibility can only result in you living on an island


15 posted on 11/12/2014 9:14:14 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Salvation

I wasn’t quoting from the Bible; I was stating what I believe after spending 3 years in a Bible School.

However, I can see where Noah and the Ark could have been a symbol of what God planned to do to those who believed in Him; they would be gathered together and saved from the destruction of the world.

It does say in the Bible, that Christians are “not appointed unto wrath”. Therefore, there must be a final rescue for the Christians before God’s wrath is poured out upon the earth.


16 posted on 11/12/2014 9:27:10 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: Salvation

Outstanding read; thanks for posting


17 posted on 11/12/2014 10:33:04 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: SumProVita
Isaiah 9:13

We've already been warned twice.

18 posted on 11/12/2014 10:42:28 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

You have given NO explanation for this specific time frame.


19 posted on 11/13/2014 10:06:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita
OK--we seem to be coming at this from two different viewpoints, then

Our first warning was 9/11. That happened on the first day of Shemitah.

Our second warning came after our responses to the first one--also on the first day of Shemitah. That was the 2008 stock market crash. Exactly 7 Hebrew years later.

Sept 2015 is the next 7 year span. That will be our demise.

That pattern follow almost exactly the demise of Israel in Isaiah 9. That includes our response of defiance that was identical to Israel's response. We are following in their footsteps, so to speak. We have less than 1 year left.

20 posted on 11/13/2014 10:46:26 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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