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Who owns the name “Mormon”?
religionnews.com ^ | Apr 24, 2014 | Jana Riess

Posted on 04/25/2014 12:28:23 PM PDT by Gamecock

A fledgling Mormon dating site reports that IRI, the intellectual property rights arm of the LDS Church, is attempting to shutter the planned launch of Mormon Match because of its use of the word “Mormon” and its appropriation of an image of the Salt Lake Temple.

Here’s what the front page of the site-in-progress looks like now:

Mormon MatchFor a good discussion of the issues involved, see Holly Welker’s post in Religion Dispatches. (I don’t think RD’s headline is quite accurate, though; as far as I know, the Church has not filed a lawsuit but applied pressure and commenced an “opposition proceeding.” According to Courthousenews.com, the lawsuit in question was filed by one of the dating site’s co-founders in response to that pressure, which would make the Church’s intellectual property division the defendant, not the plaintiff, in the suit.)

At any rate, the question at issue is this: Who, if anyone, owns the rights to the word “Mormon”?

And secondarily, what would be the consequences if a judge determined that only the LDS Church had the right to use the word “Mormon” for commercial purposes?

For an illustrative snapshot, here are some ways the word “Mormon” intersects with my daily life.

And that’s just a sampling. As you can see from this short list, liberals use the word Mormon — liberally. Conservatives use the word Mormon — also liberally.

Not one of the websites or organizations above is officially affiliated with the LDS Church, which also uses the word “Mormon” at will — the Mormon Newsroom, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, the Mormon Times, etc.

But surely the official LDS Church and its various arms are not the only groups that can lay claim to the moniker. “Mormon” is how we Mormons find each other. It’s probably how you found this blog post.

Many of the independent Mormon websites and periodicals sell products or advertising, making them commercial enterprises. When I go to the Mormon Mommy Blogs site, for example, I wade through ads for scrapbook tools and missionary gifts.

So, yes, someone over there is profiting, at least a little, from the word “Mormon.” But without that word, I might never have discovered the site in the first place. My poor Primary kids would be at the mercy of my own stunted imagination, and then I’d teach horrible lessons, and then I’d have to explain to all the parents why a whole crew of six-year-olds left the Church.

You see where I am going with this argument. Where would the Church draw the line to prohibit individuals and businesses from using the word “Mormon”?

This interference with the Mormon dating site already seems like a heavy-handed and provincial action for a denomination that aspires to be a global religion.

It seems perfectly fair to me for the Church to request, as it has done repeatedly, to be called by the name it chooses for itself: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, thank you very much. There is no such thing as “the Mormon Church,” at least in official usage. Fair enough.

What does not seem fair is to limit the use of the term “Mormon” to only those appropriations the Church formally approves of, which this statement suggests might be the Church’s ultimate goal:

“We believe we are well within our rights to protect both the use of the name of the church and the image of the Salt Lake temple and to make clear that the plaintiff’s business has no connection whatsoever to the church,” attorney Robert Schick told the Houston Chronicle.

By all means, protect the name of the Church. But as the Church has taken great pains to point out again and again, “Mormon” is not the name of the church.
In fact, two websites you would think might raise the hackles of the Church’s legal department — LDSSingles.com and LDSmatch.com — have not been “singled” out even though their names do approximate the official name of the Church.
Such a lack of clarity is enough to drive a Mormon — er, Latter-day Saint — er, Mormon — to drink.


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To: Safrguns
Or "more good."

Did Joseph Smith, Jr. write the article on the etymology of the word 'mormon' attributed to him in the May 15, 1843 issue of Times and Seasons? Is 'mon' Reformed Egyptian for 'good,' as the article says?

Did Joseph Smith, Jr.'s scribe, William Wines Phelps, write the article instead of Smith?

LDS President Gordon B. Hinckley said the 'more good' translation is incorrect, but you'll find it everywhere.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 1:08:33 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Genoa; elcid1970
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (acting through Intellectual Reserve, Inc.) applied for a trademark on "Mormon" in 2002.

If I look up the status of that application at the United States Patent and Trademark Office, it appears the application was abandoned on August 22, 2007.

22 posted on 04/25/2014 1:16:11 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

Not a surprise. Way too generic. Like the Pope trying to TM “Catholic.”


23 posted on 04/25/2014 1:22:01 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Gamecock
Who owns the name “Mormon”?

The same people who own the names; Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Methodist, Anglican, Christian, Jewish, Hindu....

24 posted on 04/25/2014 1:26:51 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Genoa

Only if they are a lesbian throuple!
http://nypost.com/2014/04/23/married-lesbian-threesome-expecting-first-child/


25 posted on 04/25/2014 1:44:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Safrguns

What language is that?


26 posted on 04/25/2014 1:45:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Gamecock

Like copy writing the name of Yashua. Or the name Christian.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 1:48:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Gamecock

This has me wondering if there’s a Machiavellian FReeper out there who can figure a way of provoking the Mormons and the Scientologists to sue each other into oblivion?


28 posted on 04/25/2014 1:48:31 PM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Was that effort anywhere close to when the Mormons started their effort to stop being called Mormons?


29 posted on 04/25/2014 2:15:35 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
I was raised to believe that 'Mormon' was a slur, and it's work for me to use the term as it is embraced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as Latter-Day Saints. As a result, you may notice that I try to refer to members of the COJCOLDS as Latter-Day Saints or LDS. I find myself using the term "Mormon" to refer to fundamentalist offshoots of the COJCOLDS.

I try to refer to the Community of Christ as the Community of Christ, Strangites as Strangites, Bickertonites as Bickertonites, and so on. However, if someone wants to break Hedrickites down to Fettingites, Elijah Messengers, Hancockites, and Halley's Bluffers, I quit.

30 posted on 04/25/2014 3:22:41 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Gamecock
eMormony

More Mormons marriages are arranged via our website, than any other.

We will match your personality and interests with each of your "sister wives" & your future mother-in-laws!

31 posted on 04/25/2014 3:41:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Gamecock

The SL “mormonS” are nothing like what Joseph Smith/Brigham Young started, it is off shoots that remain in the vision especially that group led by Jeffs.
The SL “mormonS” should pick a new name, the others use it.


32 posted on 04/25/2014 3:46:15 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: centurion316; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ansel12
I agree, they made it all up, therefore it’s theirs. It should be treated in the same way as any other work of fiction.

IMO, mormons are welcome to the name....they just are NOT entitled to call themselves "Christian"! There is nothing about the sect that has anything to do with the teachings of and belief in Jesus Christ, regardless of their stealing the name of Jesus and the lie of sticking it into their sect's name!!

33 posted on 04/25/2014 3:47:59 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Blessed Holy Week to all.)
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To: MrEdd

Good point.
I can’t tell you the number of times I listed why I did not like Romney, only to have some one reply “you bigot”, “you hate mormonS”.


34 posted on 04/25/2014 3:48:28 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

“Rand Paul To Campaign for Romney”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/


35 posted on 04/25/2014 4:00:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

And there you have it, Paul can not be trusted.


36 posted on 04/25/2014 4:02:25 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

Just like not likeing Obama make one a racist.


37 posted on 04/25/2014 4:02:53 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Alex Murphy

You need to breathe a little bit brother....you take yourself way to seriously


39 posted on 04/25/2014 4:26:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Gamecock
They could change their name to," Joey Smith Mix'em & Match'em Dating Service"
40 posted on 04/25/2014 6:32:13 PM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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