i have absolutely no problem judging pedophiles, nor casting the first stone...
Posted on 04/20/2014 12:15:02 PM PDT by stockpirate
I am hearing a lot of people say that the Bible teaches that we are not to judge someone over any issue, they say "God will judge"....
I don't think the Bible teaches it the they are saying and they also say that this is what their preacher teaches....
I'd like to hear from my fellow freepers on this...
Have a blessed Easter...
I don't think the Bible teaches it the they are saying and they also say that this is what their preacher teaches....
I'd like to hear from my fellow freepers on this...
Have a blessed Easter...
The whole lesson is to look at yourself first before you judge.
NO It’s Not!
The Bible calls us to judge whether our leaders are “above reproach”(1 Tim 3).
I think the Bible is referring to “condemning”. Everyone judges. When someone says you are judging someone, they are judging you.
People love taking and twisting Scripture out of context. Usually whatever they are taking out of context is whatever they do or don’t want to happen to them, or to permit or not permit them to do something.
In this case people who don’t want any criticism for what they are doing in their lives say this.
They forget that the verses’ contexts are not that you can never judge something or anyone, but that you do not judge them any different than you would judge yourself - ie not to judge hypocritically, but rather, to judge righteously.
If we could never judge, we could never tell someone they wronged us, they could never apologize, nobody would ever learn correct behavior versus incorrect behavior. Nobody would ever have a chance to grow morally and spiritually as a Christian.
It’s an utter ridiculous statement to make. It gets tiring hearing it thrown about again and again.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Check the log in your own eye before you point out the speck in someone else’s
If a believer sees another believer sinning, it is his Christian duty to lovingly and respectfully confront the person with his sin.
This is not judging, but rather pointing out the truth in hope—and with the ultimate goal—of bringing repentance in the other person and restoration to the fellowship.
We are to speak the truth in love We are to proclaim what God’s Word says about sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, “Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction.
We are to “judge” sin, but always with the goal of presenting the solution for sin and its consequences.
If you read the whole Chapter, you will know I am correct. I studied in church several times.
The bible verses associated with this is often the woman accused of adultery. What most commentators fail to mention is the legal aspects of the witnesses who are required to testify. Two or more witnesses were required for a criminal charge and a witness had to have integrity. Also, the witnesses were required to throw the first stones.
When Jesus asked that those who are without sin to cast first stone, he was proving that the woman could not be found guilty under the law.
alot of references, here are a few:
Luke 6:37
Matthew 7:1
Romans 2:
Mainly the theme is “Judge not, lest thee be judged”
Anytime a liberal uses bible verses they are advancing their agenda. Some of the most abused are “brother’s keeper” and “turn the other cheek.” You will notice they never bring up leviticus.
Galatians 6
1Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted
The verse “thou shalt not judge” is not an ending. It continues on with “lest ye be judged”. It doesn’t say “don’t condemn immoral behavior”. It means “don’t be a hypocrite.”
If you are honest, you can call out liars. If you are loyal to your partner, you can criticize and condemn an adulterer. But don’t cheat on your wife only to criticize a man with a mistress.
The line has also been taken up by many liberal Christians (and liberals in general) to shut down Christians who condemn their activities. They reply to criticism of immorality with “God says don’t judge!” Actually, God and Christians should judge. It doesn’t mean don’t call out murderers, thieves, rapists and liars. It means don’t call them out and punish them harshly for what you yourself do.
The misinterpretation is promoted by the liberal media and political establishment to shut down any condemnation of their evils.
I may be guilty of judging, and that might be one more thing where I need that forgiveness. I surely hate the idea of being judged by those standards I have applied to others from time to time.
Most of the time, when this is heard, it is because it has been pointed out that certain behaviors are wrong.
The person being addressed, then perhaps feeling a bit of conviction due to the wrong (sinful) behavior being addressed, counters with ‘Don’t judge me’. It is meant to shut you up, similar to ‘racist’ ‘bigot’ ‘homophobe’ are used.
Calling out a wrong behavior is NOT judging. I can see and know, based on the Bible and scripture, if a behavior is sin. And it is ok to identify and address it.
Judgement is for God to do. I can NOT judge who will go to Hell. But I can see behaviors and in love say “If you continue down that path, if you do not consider and change your ways, Hell probably awaits”.
But our society has gone far down the road of moral relativism. “ Who are YOU to say what is right for ME?”
Speaking the Truth, Biblically, and in love, is not judging. It is God and His Word that will judge.
Also, weren’t the Philisines who brought the woman to Jesus trying to catch Him being contradictory about what He taught? I was under the impression that this example really has little to do with judgement.
i have absolutely no problem judging pedophiles, nor casting the first stone...
Yes. His response is more amazing when you know the law about witnesses and their requirements.
You’re right, the Bible does not teach us to refrain from judgment of behavior. Scripture actually tells us to make a righteous judgment. Peter called Ananias and Saphira liars; Paul called the Galatians fools.
The Bible lays out a standard for us to live by. We have to be able to judge between right and wrong...how else can we be truthful and accurate about the Bible’s message?
When you hear someone say, “Oh, you can’t judge!”, it usually tends to be someone who is more of a moral relativist instead of someone who stands by the Bible’s firm moral absolutes.
Those folks often try to use Jesus’s words in Matthew 7 to prove their point:
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:3-5)
When you read it, you see that He is telling us HOW to judge, not that we should refrain from judging...”and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” In other words, don’t judge a behavior if you’re doing the same thing yourself.
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