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SERIOUS QUESTION: DO CATHOLICS REALLY BELIEVE THIS ABOUT MARY??
St Charles Barromeo Catholic Church ^ | 03-19-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 03/19/2014 8:19:20 PM PDT by ealgeone

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SECOND EDITION

PART ONE THE PROFESSION OF FAITH SECTION TWO THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

CHAPTER THREE I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT

ARTICLE 9 "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"

Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church

963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; bigots; catholicchurch; catholicmary; hyperdulia; idolatry; mariolatry; mary; pagan
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To: Elsie; metmom

Pearls before swine.

If someone reading this as a lurker is considering entering the Catholic Church, please don’t let what you read here stop you or cause you to feel nervous about that decision.

If you are not already in a RCIA program, all parishes offer this instruction for persons interested in being received into the faith.

If you want more information, presented in a way much better than I can do here and without the distraction of anti Catholics, then go to any good Catholic website and you can find tons of info freely offered!

I am not sure if I am allowed to list them here but they are easily found through googling.

God Bless you in your journey. What you find will be well worth the effort.


781 posted on 03/27/2014 4:23:59 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Elsie

“You make the claim to be a ‘catholic’, but not a Roman one.”

I said I am Catholic - which is catholic - but that I am not “Roman Catholic”.

“I merely wondered how this could be.”

Simple.

“You have refused to explain.”

It needs no explaining.

“And I have a ‘problem’?”

You said it.


782 posted on 03/27/2014 5:03:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Elsie

“Too many apples - not enough oranges.”

We’re only making cider.

“You are linking things that need not be.”

Nope.

“This is true. But the REASONING behind it is NOT mentioned.”

Not mentioned by whom?

“The same GOD said the very rocks would cry out if men did not; so what difference does it make as to what makes me glad?”

The difference is that you said, “and we all all glad that He did.”


783 posted on 03/27/2014 5:07:44 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Jvette
If someone reading this as a lurker is considering entering the Catholic Church, please don’t let what you read here stop you or cause you to feel nervous about that decision.

If you are not already in a RCIA program, all parishes offer this instruction for persons interested in being received into the faith.

If you want more information, presented in a way much better than I can do here and without the distraction of anti Catholics, then go to any good Catholic website and you can find tons of info freely offered!


If someone from the Ukraine is reading this as a lurker, and is considering re-entering the Russia Federation, please don’t let what you read here stop you or cause you to feel nervous about that decision.

If you are not already in a Putin approved re-entry program, all oblasts offer this instruction for persons interested in being received back into the Great Motherland.

If you want more information, presented in a way much better than I can do here and without the distraction of anti-Communists, then go to any good Communist website and you can find tons of info freely offered!

784 posted on 03/27/2014 6:30:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
Pearls before swine.

...give an answer to everyone who asks...

except swine?

785 posted on 03/27/2014 6:31:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
The difference is that you said, “and we all all glad that He did.”

I sure did!

MAybe I wasn't clear enough for some.

Let's try...

“and we all ARE glad that He did"

Better?

786 posted on 03/27/2014 6:33:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I could give an answer, even to swine, but the swine would still want muck.


787 posted on 03/27/2014 8:53:05 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette

That does not nullify what Scripture plainly says to do.


788 posted on 03/28/2014 2:59:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
2 Peter 1:3
His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called.



I wonder if Peter knew at this time that many more things would be coming along that we Christians would be told were 'needed'?

789 posted on 03/28/2014 3:33:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
In some contexts, that is called "up selling". Get them to spend extra on optional equipment, features, and extended warranty.

Or--- sort-of like a car rental outfit insisting one need buy insurance for the rental car (for an extra $15-$20 per day) when one's own vehicle insurance (that car in the shop since some other car crashed into it) covers car rentals already -- no extra charge.

790 posted on 03/28/2014 3:42:22 AM PDT by BlueDragon (You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra)
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To: BlueDragon

bttt


791 posted on 03/28/2014 1:53:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

As one who is not new to the RF or this debate, I well understand that many have given more than sufficient answers from Scriptures regarding this topic and a myriad of others. It has not been enough thus far for some here; of whom I am well aware.

Not everyone questions from a sincere desire to know and understand or is disposed to acknowledge the validity of such claims. Even when given Scripture it is dismissed.

Funny, considering the accusation that Catholics do not know and cannot debate from Scripture. It is a lose, lose situation for us and I choose not to play the game with an opponent. I would happily discuss these things with a friend.

I stand ready to give an answer for my beliefs to those who stand ready to listen with an open heart.


792 posted on 03/28/2014 8:21:51 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
As one who is not new to the RF or this debate, I well understand that many have given more than sufficient answers from Scriptures regarding this topic and a myriad of others.

As one involved this 'debate', I'd say that THOUSANDS of words quoted from church fathers are quite 'sufficient' for Certain Catholics; but they don't impress a knowledgeable Protestant at all.

And a Lurker?

Who knows what they come away with, by seeing all of the contortions that are tossed about, by those wishing to JUSTIFY a practice that is not found simply in Scripture, but spun from fragments and tidbits of verse and men's opinions.

793 posted on 03/29/2014 12:46:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
Not everyone questions from a sincere desire to know and understand or is disposed to acknowledge the validity of such claims. Even when given Scripture it is dismissed.

Dismissed?

I'd say proven inaccurate.

794 posted on 03/29/2014 12:47:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
Not everyone questions from a sincere desire to know and understand ...

Sincere?

I'm afraid Scripture does NOT allow that luxury of picking your audience.

795 posted on 03/29/2014 12:48:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jvette
I would happily discuss these things with a friend.

Oh?

I'm afraid Scripture does NOT allow that luxury of picking your audience.

796 posted on 03/29/2014 12:49:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone; Admin Moderator

This thread is meant to cause controversy and hate amongst Christian believers and also an avenue for atheists, Catholic haters and others to mock the beliefs of others. I can only warn others to avoid commentary... you WILL BE MOCKED and your comments deleted if considered inappropriate.


797 posted on 03/29/2014 1:03:54 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: antceecee
This thread is meant to cause controversy...

You have a precisely honed grasp of the obvious; commenting on the initial posting and getting #798 as your reply number.

798 posted on 03/29/2014 2:24:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: antceecee
I can only warn others to avoid commentary...

You are not only 797 replies too late; but you failed to follow your own advice.

799 posted on 03/29/2014 2:28:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: antceecee

Here is the OFFICIAL teaching of the Roman Catholic Church:

http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm#


800 posted on 03/29/2014 2:34:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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