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His answer is at the link.

Might be fun to compare your response with his.

Also, as an act of mercy for the illustrious Religion Moderator, I am leaving this thread as open (I figure why make the RM delete a bunch of "absolutely" posts from certain quarters...that's a whole bunch of work).

So, enjoy...

1 posted on 06/21/2013 4:07:10 AM PDT by markomalley
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It can be tempting to conclude that most Catholics in America today are going to go to hell.

It can be tempting to conclude that most everyone other than one's perfect self is going to hell. However, we need to remember that the definition of "temptation" is "an incitement to sin." The proper response to this temptation is not to indulge in some pleasureable Friday-morning mudslinging, but to flee from it.

2 posted on 06/21/2013 4:10:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Does Bill have a job yet?)
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Romans 6:23:

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”


3 posted on 06/21/2013 4:12:12 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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In my fifteen years of being a Catholic I have yet to hear a homily that mentioned the evils of contraception, pornography, cohabitation outside of marriage, etc. It makes it quite difficult for the average Catholic to be aware of these things when they are never discussed by the local deacon, priest or bishop.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 4:20:21 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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Yes!! Everyone goes to communion and there is no way they are in the state of Grace. It’s like a communist breadline. Corinthians 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

I am a sinner and have no wish to judge others, God does that. Yet, observing so called catholics in good standing living a flagrant disregard for the commandments and then blithely partaking in the eucharist is a scandal to all; that circumstance is not the same thing as someone personally judging.

That is why we have confession - to remedy the situation!! Sure, the sins are stubborn; if people would put themselves in a state of grace by using confession, they will have spiritual aid to fight the temptations, not succumb.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 4:34:01 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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I know these two "Catholics" are.


14 posted on 06/21/2013 5:17:42 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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When you look around society today, it doesn’t look good. Even in the Church, people are committing abortion and contraception. They are sleeping together outside of marriage, using porn, and doing a host of other things that can endanger their souls. It can be tempting to conclude that most Catholics in America today are going to go to hell....

While it is true that many of them are committing sins that have grave matter, between poor catechesis in Church, society’s constant assault on Church teaching, and the various factors that diminish the voluntary and free character of a sin, quite a number of them likely do not have all three conditions fulfilled. Also, even when all three conditions are fulfilled and a sin is mortal, that does not mean a person will be damned. It means that they would be damned if they died right now without repenting, but God is patient and gives us time to repent, and many people do before they die.

Apart from the whole "meets all three conditions" thing, that's the answer I was expecting Akin to give.

16 posted on 06/21/2013 5:44:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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It’s more certain that the American bishops have gone / are going to Hell. They are responsible for failing to preach the one true Faith and the morality that goes with it for decades. We sheep are less culpable, at least objectively.


20 posted on 06/21/2013 6:45:39 AM PDT by DumbestOx ("Where is everybody?" - Enrico Fermi, 1950)
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“Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10


25 posted on 06/21/2013 7:28:47 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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They may be going to Heaven, eventually, but they have a long Purgatory ahead. Also, they are paying a price (along with the rest of us) in this world. Their sin is hurting them and their community in various ways and they are suffering problems that people who avoid those sins never have.


29 posted on 06/21/2013 7:46:53 AM PDT by married21
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What Mortal Sin Is

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: “Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.”


To repeat!

Grave Matter

Full Knowledge

Deliberate Consent


31 posted on 06/21/2013 8:02:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Thanks.


32 posted on 06/21/2013 8:08:33 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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This title might read: Are most Catholics Christians in America going to hell? [OPEN THREAD]

How many non-Catholics practice contraception?

Do they know it's a grave matter -- not allowing an egg to be fertilized? And if they know about it -- do they fully consent to contracepting?

Definitely something for all of us who are reading this thread and DO KNOW that this is a mortal sin that can put one into hell.

33 posted on 06/21/2013 8:20:11 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Polytheism is of the Devil.

Is it ever.


34 posted on 06/21/2013 8:25:54 AM PDT by onedoug
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There will be some Catholics in Heaven.
There will be some Presbyterians in Hell.

As far as the number, that’s WAY above my pay grade.

Next question.


36 posted on 06/21/2013 9:06:10 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." —R.C. Sproul)
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Without regard to denomination, there is no believer in Jesus Christ (the meaning of the word being “as used by Jesus Himself”), who is going to hell, and there is no unbeliever who is going to heaven.


38 posted on 06/21/2013 9:16:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Why qualify with a “some”? Why not say outright like our frequent snake charmer dime store theologians posit that ALL go to Hades?!

(Tell you what, if the humourless Harold Campings of FR are going to Heaven, I’ll voluntarily take the ticket to the other place!)


56 posted on 06/21/2013 6:36:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Catholics and other Christians, especially the ‘evangelical’ black ‘Christians’ who voted for Obama in 2008/2012 are destined for hell. Some are already starting to live in the hell that is being orchestrated by the evil usurper in the White Hut. Scorn God, find hell.


58 posted on 06/21/2013 7:03:57 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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As to the query- “Are most Catholics in America going to hell?”- No.


71 posted on 06/22/2013 12:28:23 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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Are most Catholics in America going to hell? [OPEN THREAD]


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


76 posted on 06/22/2013 4:59:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Are most Catholics in America going to hell? [OPEN THREAD]


John 3:18

77 posted on 06/22/2013 4:59:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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