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To: markomalley

Yes!! Everyone goes to communion and there is no way they are in the state of Grace. It’s like a communist breadline. Corinthians 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

I am a sinner and have no wish to judge others, God does that. Yet, observing so called catholics in good standing living a flagrant disregard for the commandments and then blithely partaking in the eucharist is a scandal to all; that circumstance is not the same thing as someone personally judging.

That is why we have confession - to remedy the situation!! Sure, the sins are stubborn; if people would put themselves in a state of grace by using confession, they will have spiritual aid to fight the temptations, not succumb.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 4:34:01 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01
I am a sinner and have no wish to judge others, God does that. Yet, observing so called catholics in good standing living a flagrant disregard for the commandments and then blithely partaking in the Eucharist is a scandal to all; that circumstance is not the same thing as someone personally judging.

Outstanding post. A thoughtful distinction made between judging and discerning.

11 posted on 06/21/2013 4:47:47 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: stonehouse01
I am a sinner and have no wish to judge others, God does that.


Judge NOT???
 
Sigh............
 

 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.  (John 7:24).

81 posted on 06/22/2013 5:07:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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