Posted on 03/26/2013 8:02:07 PM PDT by ReformationFan
Let’s get one thing straight.
In this battle over same-sex ‘marriage’ it often sounds like those pushing the dismantling of traditional marriage have the upper hand in terms of love. ‘You are opposed to love!’; ‘How does the love between me and my partner affect you in your marriage?’; ‘Why can’t I be allowed to love whomever I choose?’
These are the tough arguments from ‘love’ facing those who are fighting to protect marriage from radical redefinition.
In truth, however, love is the principle reason to fight same-sex ‘marriage.’
You see, law is a teacher and enshrining same-sex ‘marriage’ in law would lead many people to believe that homosexual sexual relations are equal to those of heterosexual married couples. The difficulty, of course, is that while sexual acts between heterosexual married couples can be totally healthy and positive, the same can never be said of sexual acts between persons of the same sex, whether they happen within a relationship given the name “marriage” or not.
Our bodies were not designed for that behavior, and our anatomy itself gives that testimony. The negative mental and physical health consequences that flow from homosexual sex are many and the medical evidence pointing to them is readily available on LifeSiteNews.
(Excerpt) Read more at lifesitenews.com ...
I like calling it SSAD. I have always said that there is not such thing as homophobia. I am not the one who’s sick.
We shouldn't judge them, unless they are inside the church.
(I Cor 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”)
That is not to be taken as endorsing thier behavior either. We should not condon gay marrage.
What we should be doing is clearly preach God's redemption through His Son Jesus Christ to all.
A great book on the subject is Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert. An English Professor's Journey into Christian Faith
This is a deeply moving book that follows a radical feminist lesbian's journey to the Reformed corner of Christianity, ultimately to marry a Reformed pastor. In this book we can learn much how to deal with all sinners and come to a deeper understanding that it is God who saves.
Gens Hellquist, one of the complainants, was the executive director of the Canadian Rainbow Health Coalition a leading homosexual activist group. He explained at length his concerns about the health status of homosexual men and women in Canada:
"We have one of the poorest health statuses in this country ... Health issues affecting queer Canadians include lower life expectancy than the average Canadian, suicide, higher rates of substance abuse, depression, inadequate access to care and HIV/AIDS.""There are all kinds of health issues that are endemic to our community. We have higher rates of anal cancer in the gay male community, lesbians have higher rates of breast cancer ... the reality is there is (sic) more GLBT people in this country who die of suicide each year than die from AIDS, there are more who die early deaths from substance abuse than die of HIV/AIDS. ...
“Now that we can get married everyone assumes that we don't have any issues any more. A lot of the deaths that occur in our community are hidden, we don't see them. Those of us who are working on the front lines see them and I'm tired of watching my community die."
Homosexuality kills
Dear Friends,
This is the truth in a time that is seeing our Supreme Court discuss same-sex marriage. Those who love the homosexual person are those who are out of love begging them to stop a behavior that their own health and death statistics say is killing them. Those who “hate” the homosexual are those telling them to go ahead with what they’re doing. It is not love to encourage an alcoholic to drink and to get behind a steering wheel and drive. That would be total lack of caring for that person. It is the so-called “open minded” people who are killing the homosexual, and it is the biblical folks who are showing love by trying to get them to change. Which is possible, because see the underlined below:
The Apostle Paul says in 1 Co 6:
Do not be deceived:10 Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers11 nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders12 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers13 will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were.14 But you were washed,15 you were sanctified,16 you were justified17 in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
In the article below especially see the section from a Canadian homosexual.
Faith
Or are outlawed from outreaching to or teaching children homosexuality is wrong, and from converting homosexuals to be straight.
The satanic goal is to all give obeisance to the false ideology that makes a mockery of the Creator who made man and women uniquely compatible and complimentary and only joined them together in marriage.
Daniel was required, "Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands? " (Daniel 3:15)
But we know Him who has the keys of Hell and Heaven
And how can we love God and our neighbor if we do no seek to save that which lost (and a practice that likely will send them to an early grave and an eternal Hell), and live as the elect? May God be merciful to us in our shortcomings.
C.S. Lewis wrote:
“There is no neutral ground in the Universe, every square inch, every split second, is claimed by God and counterclaimed by satan”.
When Roe vs Wade was passed it was because the majority of American people wanted it to be so or it would have never passed..... The very ‘sanctity of life’ was no more, this nation lost fully it's desire... to ‘protect’ our children......thus the homosexual community crashed thru what was once the “gatekeepers” of life......and other perverted individuals will fast be on the heels of what we are seeing now.....there are no “gates”.
This whole fiasco is simply the “results” playing out on stage...God ‘allows’ sin to run it's course once man defies, ignores, and fights against God's clear warnings.
It was an impromptu post, to which others ar welcome to improve or expand.
exactly- not just gay peopel have died from aids, but innocent peopel gettign unknowingly blood transfusions donated by gay people who’s aids went undete4cted have coitnracted the disease- and not to mention gay peopel having multiple multiple partners both straight and gay whos partners also have multiple partners and we’re talkign about a massive psread of the disease through society- Not to mention nurses, caretakers and doctors are all put at risk carign for these folks- Those folks claiming gay people ‘don’t hurt anyoen but themselves’ are either ignorant of the facts, or flat out lying tryign to cover up just how dangerous to EVERYONE the gay movement is-
[[When Roe vs Wade was passed it was because the majority of American people wanted it to be so or it would have never passed]]
When did the peopel have any say in it? It was decided by the supreme court (who legislated fro mthe bench when makign hte ruling)
You are right- sin is abotu to rapidly multiply like never before- This country is plagued with a NY mayor who declares ‘govetrnment has the right to violate your rights’ and hwo has declared hismelf above the cosntitution- we have a supreme court who will NOT protect America from a rogue govenrment any logner claiming ‘it’s not hteir job to protect Americans from ‘bad chocies’ (Despite a majority of hteir cases do just that) we have schools forcign kids be immersed in disgusting filthy sexual discussions and ‘school activites’ deicting the filthy vile sex acts- on and on it goes- and pretty soon anyoen hwo oppsoes such filth and immorality will be comnpeltely villiefied bt the press and possibly imprisoned- (just like htose who were imprisoned in places liek germany, russia, NK, china, cuba etc- It is becoming ilelgal to be moral
That is correct. All the more reason to let them kill themselves. There will be less left to deal with. And added benefit, they do not procreate.
You know the idiom "Let sleeping dogs lie".
good post- that’s what I was tryign to say earleir- I can’t udnerstand how soem can think the best offense is a weak defence- We’ve been tryign hte weak defence strategy and the GOP has suffered tremedously and sin HAS taken hold in this coutnry like never before- and hte old saying that evil can olny prosper IF good peopel do nothing is very apprapoe here
Yes, because now it has become a national issue. It should be a state issue. Let California decide what they want. There will be future elections in CA, and once they learn more about homosexuality, there is nothing stopping them from new court decisions and new propositions.
By forcing the SCOTUS to make a decision, homosexuality could become a nationally approved issue. That is what scares me much more than what the liberal states want to do to themselves.
James 5:20 KJV Let him know , that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Jude 1:23 KJV And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Homosexuality is all around here in Liberal Seattle. My kids were taught early right from wrong, our moral codes and they have turned out just fine. If parents are not doing the job, do not blame anyone else.
Like I said in my other posts, forcing the issue through SCOTUS will make homosexual marriage a nationally approved issue. Let it be a state issue. There will be new politicians and new judges coming on line in future in CA to change things back.
So what is wrong about that? let the homo’s self destruct. There will be less to deal with.
What will you do when the SCOTUS approves homo-marriage and it becomes a nationally approved issue instead of limited to 9 liberal states?
Not to sound defeatist- but let’s not forget though that Daniel lived durign hte age when miracles were common (TRUE miracles I’m talking- such as walkign about unscathed in a furnace) we do not live in such times- The age or TRUE miracles is over (which is why Christ said “I tell you the truth, it is harder for man today to berleive than it was years ago” [in essence is hwat he said]) Miracles WILL happen again at Christ’s return, but till then, we will not be supernaturally protected liek in htose days (however, let’s not forget that God didn’t sueprnaturally save saints who were murdered by the romans either- bottom line- Yes our God is all powerfull and cnaq supercede nature anytiem He likes, however there are no promisses He WILL do so especially now when TRUE miracles are no logner done (supernaturally restoring life at a command, restorign limbs, eyesight etc- these type miracles- TRUE miracles are not happenign today [but will again one day])
Have you looked at women’s vote numbers for Obama in 2012?
I believe he got the majority. I have to conclude many women prefer the abortion right to be left alone.
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