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Sex Symbols Who Speak in Tongues?
Charisma News ^ | 2-4-13 | Michael Brown

Posted on 02/10/2013 4:45:41 PM PST by ReformationFan

I was at the grocery store the other day when I was unexpectedly confronted with an adult-oriented magazine located right next to the vitamin section. I immediately had to look away from the front cover, which featured a scantily clad, seductively posed, sex symbol. Yet it was only a few weeks ago that I read an article about how this same sex symbol loves to speak in tongues and has to restrain herself from outbursts in tongues while attending church services. What?

This is actually a perfect illustration of American charismatic Christianity, where you can say you love Jesus (like the rapper “The Game” claims to do) and still frequent strip clubs (as “The Game” still does), or where you can flow in the gifts of the Spirit and become a made-for-TV preaching sensation, only to announce that God told you that you married the wrong woman, leading to a quick divorce and remarriage.

Yes, this is the “gospel” of the 21st century, “Spirit-filled” church of America, where the cross is bypassed, denial of the flesh is scorned, purity is called legalism, and anything goes if it feels good.

It is the “gospel” of self, in which Jesus dies to make you into a bigger and better you, a “gospel” in which God is here to serve you and help you fulfill your dreams, and where the measure of all things is not how God feels about it but how you feel about it (or how it makes you feel).

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: americanchristianity; bornagain; brown; charismatics; christianity; discernment; meganfox; michaelbrown; pentecostal; sexsymbols; tongues
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I have some theological differences with Dr. Brown but I think he makes some good points here.
1 posted on 02/10/2013 4:45:47 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan; NYer; Morgana

I was flipping through channels and came across some Nun on HBO, so I rolled my eyes and went back to see what was up... she was an ex-actress.... she was talking about how orgasmic it is to worship God, she said it was like having sex with him.

jeesh


2 posted on 02/10/2013 4:48:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ReformationFan

I think that if he doesn’t like to look at chicks, he might be gay.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 4:48:22 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

I can’t wait to see where this thread goes.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 5:04:44 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ReformationFan
Tattoos are a dead giveaway that the person they are attached to is crazy.
5 posted on 02/10/2013 5:06:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: humblegunner
I think that if he doesn’t like to look at chicks, he might be gay.

I've been married to the same wonderful woman for 30 years. Very early on she noticed my eyes did stray to some of the beautiful women walking around in NYC, and was upset. I told her, "Honey, just beacuse I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu!" She chuckled, still doesn't like it but knows I am just admiring God's creations.

6 posted on 02/10/2013 5:07:17 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: ReformationFan

I don’t know why the author singles out the ‘spirit-filled’ churches. Of all the churches I’ve been to (from catholic to charismatic), I’d say that the seeker-friendly’s are more accepting of unchristian behavior, but that’s just my limited observation.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 5:09:47 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

The mainstream churches fell a long time ago, Charasmitic Churches with Christian rock fell right after, and now the fundamentalist churches are falling with people drinking and going to bars and concerts all while claiming to Love Jesus


8 posted on 02/10/2013 5:22:26 PM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Really? I have had tattoos since 1981 when I got my first one as a United States Navy sailor, have been married for 20+ years (completely monogamously), and have 3 sane kids raised and out in the world. Have had our own business for the last 6 years. I build the best damned 1911 you ever laid hands on, do gunstock work that would make you sick with envy. Neither my wife nor I have ever been arrested, committed or threatened with either. We earn our own way in the world, ask nothing from anyone and both have tattoos. Multiple tattoos.
My very sane Father (USN Ret., now deceased) had tatts. Oldest brother (USN Ret.) has tatts. I could go on, but won’t. Don’t need to. I am living proof that you are wrong.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 5:41:57 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: randog
I don’t know why the author singles out the ‘spirit-filled’ churches.

That's his audience. He's writing for Charisma News. I don't doubt examples of this could be found elsewhere.

10 posted on 02/10/2013 5:42:51 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: ReformationFan

I anticipate that FR rabid Catholics will be here any moment, talking about how pure their denomination is, and YOPIOS and all that.

Of course, they have their gay sexual predator priests and non-biblical doctrines.

Let’s just say here that the world is full of sinners, and we all need a Savior. We need to know Jesus, the real Jesus who lives and who is correctly presented in Scripture.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 5:47:47 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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I've been married to the same wonderful woman for 30 years. Very early on she noticed my eyes did stray to some of the beautiful women walking around in NYC, and was upset. I told her, "Honey, just beacuse I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu!" She chuckled, still doesn't like it but knows I am just admiring God's creations.

Darling, you can touch her with any part of your body you are willing to loose...

12 posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:56 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: FatherofFive

Perhaps she can consider her blessings that it’s WOMEN which turn your head.

And that you’re being faithful to her.

There are people who are so attractive that people DO look at them. It doesn’t mean that it’s always lust.


13 posted on 02/10/2013 5:52:47 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m sure to know all the crazy people that keep you safe from the rest of the planet’s human garbage will appreciate your thoughts.

Perhaps you could just spit on them while you’re at it. Like a good lib would. The fact that many freepers are also inked may also be lost on you so what does it say about you hanging out with all these crazies?


14 posted on 02/10/2013 5:54:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ReformationFan; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Unfortunately, as Orr noted years ago, “Many have sadly forgotten that the only evidence of the new birth is the new life,” and the Scriptures make perfectly clear that if we profess to follow Jesus with our lips but do not follow Him with our lives, we do not belong to Him. (I’m not talking about momentary lapses in our walks with the Lord or about serious mistakes that we make, only to reject and renounce them. God’s mercy and forgiveness are great. I’m talking about the consistent, willful pattern of our lives. Are we following Jesus or not?)

It’s time to say goodbye to this watered-down, sin-excusing, so-called gospel that offers everything and calls for nothing. It’s time to get back to the cross and back to the truth. Otherwise, as America collapses in a heap of amoral ruin, the soft preachers of America will be largely to blame.

Excellent article.

One of the issues I have with the charismatic movement is that they are big on signs and there's little outward evidence of what they claim the signs mean, having an *encounter* with God.

For all the experience, tongues, slain in the Spirit stuff, there's not any more evidence of holy living than those who haven't experienced those things.

15 posted on 02/10/2013 6:00:50 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: ReformationFan

Thanks Dr. Brown.... the “church” is really losing it with the things they’ve taught over the recent decades.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 6:04:39 PM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: metmom
One of the issues I have with the charismatic movement is that they are big on signs and there's little outward evidence of what they claim the signs mean, having an *encounter* with God.

And no sign they understand the gravity of what they are claiming.

17 posted on 02/10/2013 6:22:10 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No, your aversion to tattoos is a dead give away that you do not know what you are talking about.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 6:38:02 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: RaceBannon

So are you saying that upbeat and lively music is not Christian?
So would you rather people stripped to loin clothes and dance in the streets?


19 posted on 02/10/2013 6:42:54 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: null and void
Darling, you can touch her with any part of your body you are willing to loose...

this is why I love the FR. So many smart and witty people. That is a line I will steal! Thanks

20 posted on 02/10/2013 6:53:18 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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