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Eat me last!
Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”
“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.
“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”
“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”
“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”
Yours and your correspondent's happened to be the first "making it personal" I read tonight, so my warning was posted to you, him and all.
I've been pulling others as I see them and also posts containing potty language.
Or more like Cyrus the Persian and Stalin the Russian. God has used leaders of other religions to do His good bidding, but Obama we know is an anti Christ, or even possibly the anti Christ, without a doubt.
We do know that for years Mormons have lived in our Country, many as good civil citizens, and have not done us as a Country noticeable harm. Not mentioning, of course, the souls of many that they have cemented into a false religion and hell's eternal fire.
For all we know Romney may turn out to be the anti Christ, with his god complex, but we haven't at this time any other indication of this. Romney is basically an unknown as far as how great of damage or for that matter good The LORD may use him to do. Obama, on the other hand, we know is nearly pure, undiluted evil. Give him any more rope and he is exceedingly likely to hang us.
At THIS point, any altruistic vote would just be a vote for zero.
There is no proof....
Logic and reason.
Theological differences do not have any foreseeable adverst impact on Romney’s political performance, in my opinion. As long as he doesn’t impose Mormonism, which he can’t constitutionally do anyways, I don’t see a downside from Romney as a Mormon president. I just don’t see it. I do see an actual danger based on an actual record from our current president. And frankly, I would far prefer a devout Mormon with strong family values to a nominal Christian who believes essentially in communism like the current President. You all are simply helping someone whose policies truly are diabolical from a political perspective, Barack Hussein Obama, mm mm mm! Enjoy four more years with the great O if you guys get your way...
Did you read the 1st Amendment??
Please!
Eat me last!
Neither!
I'm 'hoping' that the long awaited asteriod will show up about 13 minutes and 27 seconds into the next presidential debate.
Haven't I told you a million times not to exaggerate?
I'm positive that the jury would like to see some EVIDENCE; to process with logic and reason.
You SURE??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
Do you UNDERSTAND the 1st Amendment??
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
"Political performance?"
Monica Lewinsky showed us Bill Clinton's side of "political performance"...meaning that no matter how much Clinton was some kind of "political master," he had a seamy character which comes into play beyond what somebody does with cigars.
With Romney's character, it's not "sexual intrigue" I am talking about...
It is, first of all, the sheer hubris -- the sheer arrogance -- of believing you are a "god in embryo." Pride cometh before the fall!
I mean, what if Richard Nixon had announced he was a "Quaker god in embryo" prior to taking the White House? How do you think the nation would have reacted? Would they have voted him in? Would they have ignored it? Would they have -- as you have recommended -- carefully compartmentalized "religion" from "politics."
The other character dimension this indicates is a tremendous lack of discernment. Hugh Hewitt, the talk show host who's been pro-Romney going back to 2007, mentioned back then how highly intelligent Romney is. I've believed Hugh's assessment about Romney all this time.
I think Romney is quite intelligent; but intelligence is NOT the same thing as discernment. Discernment is both a character trait and is tied to guidance and illumination of the Holy Spirit...an obvious thing missing when somebody thinks they are "god." Romney is -- simply put -- gullible to deception. He is very vulnerable!
I mean, here, we have a nation that has a 75% Christian practice and/or background rate (or higher), and Romney's Mormon beliefs "informs" him that they are all "apostates." If he can't even get it straight what U.S. Christians spiritually identify themselves as, how is he going to potentially embarrass us foreign policy wise with Muslims or other world religions?
OK, I don't know if you hold a Christian worldview or not, but if you don't, allow me to explain an Evangelical one on this matter.
Evangelicals get their spiritual moniker because we focus heavily on Evangelism...
...evangelism literally being the Good News of the ONLY Son of God who existed prior to the creation of this world (having been created by God the Son and God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.....
...And this Son of God was incarnated as Yeshua and lived the perfect life and died on our behalf in order to reconcile us to the Father. His resurrection topped off that triumph over Satan, death ... hence this is GREAT News!!!
Evangelicals believe in heaven and hell. Jesus said "wide is the road that leads to destruction" and "narrow is the way that leads to life." You know what? That tells me that possibly MORE -- as in MANY more -- people are heading for hell than heaven.
Hence, like the apostle Paul's urgency over his fellow Jews, we don't want people winding up in hell (Romans 9:1-3).
Now, Unam Sanctam, you used the word "impose" --as if that was the only spiritual danger involved. Well...Evangelicals are QUITE concerned over the other "pose" -- as in expose -- that the Mormon false teachings and the Mormon Church will be getting with a Mormon White House. Romney wouldn't even have to do anything. The Mormon Public relations campaign...hundreds of $mllions worth -- would kick into high gear to take advantage of this "Mormon moment."
The bottom line is: More people into the Mormon church thru this false P.R. campaign = more people potentially hell-bound. The apostle Paul -- as he was leaving the church at Ephesus -- said he spent three years NIGHT and DAY warning them about how false shepherds ... "wolves" was the term he used -- would come in and devour the sheep. (See Acts 20)
Paul spent three years warning them night and day about that...to show you how much of a priority that was.
In contrast, the religious elite and the lazier shepherds of churches on board tend to highly neglect such concerns.
And somehow...people who either claim some high level of religiosity...or more of a shallow connection...seem to think they can 100% ignore the words of the Bible...like Paul's warning, for example...and that somehow all things will be "hunky-dory" spiritually as well as politically...
ALL: Please note that 36% of the voting-age citizens in 2008 "stayed home" and didn't vote...thereby "let[ting] Obama win"...they either didn't register to vote...or didn't turn out.
And per census.gov, this % was similar to the 2004 turnout...and was even higher %-wise than 2000 and 1996...
Source citation: In the 2008 presidential election, 64 percent of voting-age citizens voted, an estimate not statistically different from the percent that turned out in 2004, but higher than the presidential elections of 2000 and 1996 (Table 1).
Source: VOTING AND REGISTRATION OF THE VOTING-AGE CITIZEN POPULATION: Turnout for the November 2008 Election
Not a whole lot!
Certainly, we don't want to ever encourage people not registering to vote, or staying home to vote [I encourage third-party voting if you can't find somebody you like in the major categories]...so while we don't have to compliment the stay-at-home crowd, disparaging an entire 36% of the voting-age populace as "kooks" -- as Venturer has done in his post -- shows an elitist demeanor...
ALL: Please encourage people to turn out to vote...don't pull a "Venturer" and dismiss 36% of the voting-age populace -- 99.99% of whom he doesn't even know to make any kind of accurate assessment -- as "kooks."
Yeah. Ok. You're hoping we're all wiped out.
Trying to use the 37% against me like the Democrats used the 47% against Romney just shows you belong at the DU.
The 37% who do not vote in any year are damned fools , and those who would allow Obama to win over Romney even bigger fools.
You go ahead and vote for anybody you like it’s beginning to look like we won’t need you anyway.
Surely, after all the time you’ve spent on FR; you STILL think there is some kind of test?
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LOL. I’m surprised that you are sarcasm challenged.
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