Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romneys Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins and be right with our Creator, she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I cant say that I disagree, she said. However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a god in his next life and receive his own planet.
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes, she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
Its like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney, Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
It was horrific, she told WND. There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven, she said. He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our Gods spirit children from our god mother and god father.
So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies bodies that are here on the earth, Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. [This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth, Erickson explained.
They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that Hes going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which thats where they believe the Garden of Eden is, she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the White Horse Prophesy.
From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world, they stated. The so-called White Horse Prophecy of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This prophecy predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies, she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney, she stated. And I have been through the same temple ceremonies to follow the church first before anything else.
To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too, Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Ericksons writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Ericksons article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all, she wrote. I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, Of two evils, choose neither.
NT; your prayer WORKED!
For I am now wiser and did the hard work for those who would have let you remain smugly superior:
A false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy, fallacy of false choice, black-and/or-white thinking, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses) is a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option. The options may be a position that is between the two extremes (such as when there are shades of grey) or may be a completely different alternative.
Now I know what the choice between voting for Romney or not; is.
Interesting.
So; does one have to be arrogant to post FACTS about MORMONism, or is it a byproduct of that apparently scorned endevour on FR?
The evidence then appears to indicate that not enough cared.
HMmmm...
Wow!
You are boiling hot with this apparent ability to mindread even the DEVIL!
Saluda!!
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.
Surely, after all the time you've spent on FR; you STILL think there is some kind of test?
Thank you for informing others about some of the baggage that Barak is carrying around.
Aw...
...and how about voting for a fella who thinks JS was a TRUE prophet of GOD?
That's good; but an awful lot of the "YOU'D better VOTE for Romney or ELSE!" bunch seems to think that O can suck their souls right oudda der body.
That's good. DU folks just LOVE folks with feelings!
Specific and documented instances only please.
It's a good thing you put that 50 limit in place; or else I'd have to post this...
Ezra Taft Benson
Ezra Taft Benson (August 4, 1899 May 30, 1994) was the thirteenth president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1985 until his death and was United States Secretary of Agriculture for both terms of the presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower.
In 1953, Benson was appointed U.S. Secretary of Agriculture by President Eisenhower. Benson accepted this position with the permission of Church President David O. McKay and therefore served simultaneously in the United States Cabinet and in the LDS Church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
Uh... Resty??
If we conservatives hadn't split our primary votes among Bachmann, Gingrich, Perry, and Santorum, Romney wouldn't have been the nominee. I know it's easier to blame Romney, the GOP-e, etc., instead of admitting we were stupid for not uniting behind *one* candidate to stop Romney, but we did this to ourselves.
Ha!
Any fool (well - not McCain again) could have done it!
But, since Mitt divided and conquered his way thru the primaries; you'd best HOPE that he can get the job done.
Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.
....... The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below. The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further. The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary. Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify. In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building. As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames. What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs. There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed. And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence. |
To be honest I feel safer with Romney than I do with nuts who would rather stay home and let Obama win than vote for Romney.
I never feel safe around kooks.
That's the kind of logic that says, "If you have a flat tire, it's because you planned it that way"
(And I'm sure there's a word for that kind of thinking ... ((Honey, we saved $100 ... it was marked down from 300 to 200))
The primary's and the race is all supposed to bring that favorite out, and as best as a diverse field and electorate can do ... they did it.
There's legitimate reasons why Newt could not get the nomination, but I think he would be a good president.
But then, Santorum (who too had 'problems' ) could also have made a good President ...
And every one in the race ... but we ended up with Romney
I don't buy the "we did it to ourselves" argument.
You PLANNED and WANTED that flat tire, DINT chu !
I didn't say we PLANNED to let Romney skate in by dividing our votes among four different candidates. To the contrary. We saw Romney win state after state with a minority of the vote. And instead of wising up, and getting behind one candidate, we remained divided amongst ourselves.
Returning to your analogy, if you see you have a nail in your tire, and you do nothing to address it, don't be surprised when you get that flat.
We got Romney, he's a good man, and we may be able to make a good president out of him.
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