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Is Mitt Romney a Christian or not?
Herald News Chicago Suntimes ^ | August 23, 2012 | George Gaspar

Posted on 08/23/2012 8:20:55 PM PDT by delacoert

Edited on 08/23/2012 8:26:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In recent decades the Republican Party has made a person’s religious beliefs an issue for election to political office, despite the First Amendment to the Constitution explicitly forbidding this.

For the Republicans, that requirement is a person must be a Christian. Mitt Romney has chosen staunch Roman Catholic Paul Ryan as his running mate. That should help divert some of the concern about Romney himself being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints — a Mormon.

There has been debate, including in The Herald-News’ OpenLine, about whether or not Mormons are true Christians. Most people don’t know what Mormons believe, so I thought I would publicize some of their basic precepts, all of which can be easily confirmed.

Mormons believe that “God” created multiple worlds with people living on them. Multiple gods exist but each has its own universe. All people existed as pre-mortal spirit children of God and are then physically born on this earth and are subject only to our specific “God.” If you follow God and his law (the precepts of the LDS Church) you can reach the highest level of heaven and become a “God” also.

Our “God” was a mortal on another planet who reached this highest level and became “God.” He had a mortal wife who also became a “Goddess.” He physically had sexual relations with Mary and Jesus became mortal from his spirit life as the eldest son of “God.”

Mormons recognize God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but all three are not one substance but completely different beings forming one “godhead.”

They feel the early Christian Church became corrupted by pagan influences at the Council of Nicea. The Church was finally “restored” through appearances by God, Jesus and some of the apostles to Joseph Smith, beginning in 1820 at age 14. (Smith and his mother and father all believed in “visions, prophecies and folk magic.”) Joseph Smith viewed himself as the “prophet” of God who spoke to the people through him. The LDS still has a “prophet” who can have visions from God and announce new Church beliefs, such as the acceptance of African Americans into the “priesthood” in 1978.

Further beliefs: When people die, the “spirit” is separated from the body and either goes to “spirit heaven” or “spirit prison” waiting for the second coming; Jesus appeared to the people of America after his resurrection; and God, Jesus, and “resurrected beings” have bodies of flesh and bone.

They believe there is no salvation outside the LDS Church, there is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet, and Satan originated the idea that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation.

Mormons believe the entire world must be converted to Mormonism, and they proselytize aggressively.

The final item is their belief in “temple garments,” often referred to as “Mormon underwear.” These are worn day and night, and are required to be worn to enter a temple. They are believed to be a constant reminder of the LDS covenant with God and are a “source of protection from evil.”

These are some of the beliefs of Mitt Romney, the man who would be president; beliefs he does not want to discuss. What do you think?


TOPICS: Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christians; inmans; mormonism; no; romney; romneyandgod
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To: delacoert
Mormons are not Christians.
2 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:16 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: delacoert

Mormons do not recognize Christian Baptism—whether administered to an infant or “believer’s Baptism” later in life.

Orthodox Christians do not recognize Mormon “baptism”.

Case closed.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 8:26:06 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: delacoert
By their fruits you shall know them

Comparing the fruits of the spirit I see from them Mormons compared to the poison fruits being offered by self proclaimed uber "Christians", I suspect the Mormons are going to be more welcome then the sanctimonious Uber "christian" at God's judgment seat

4 posted on 08/23/2012 8:26:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mlizzy

Neither are Muslims, so I will go with Romney.


5 posted on 08/23/2012 8:26:14 PM PDT by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: delacoert
"What do I think?"

I think that what Mitt Romney believes is between him and God, and that if I have a choice between a crypto-Communist/Muslim in the White House that hates America, and a clean living, non-dope smoking, non-drinking, charitable Mormon who doesn't beat his wife, I'm going to vote for that Mormon guy.

And the last time I checked, I don't recall seeing a pack of renegade Mormons hijacking any airliners and flying them into buildings in a terrorist act.
6 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:08 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: delacoert

This moron starts out citing the First Amendment—when the “no religious test” clause is elsewhere.

Moreover, the electorate is at liberty to consider ANYTHING an issue, regardless of what the Constitution says—in precisely the same way that the public is NOT required to presume criminal defendants “innocent until proven guilty.”

Then, he reels off a bunch of Mormon beliefs that have nothing whatsoever to do with any conceivable public policy question.

And he does all this in violation of HIS bogus “understanding” of the Constitution.


7 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:18 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: delacoert

Racist.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:26 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: mlizzy

He is not


9 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:24 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: lightman

The Catholic Church does not accept the Mormon Baptism.


10 posted on 08/23/2012 8:31:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: delacoert

Is Mitt Romney a Christian or not?
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No Romney is NOT a Christian...

Mormons are not Christians...


11 posted on 08/23/2012 8:31:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Not.
O'Bummer? - Even more Not.

I'll go with the less 'Not'

12 posted on 08/23/2012 8:31:50 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: MNJohnnie

“By their fruits you shall know them
Comparing the fruits of the spirit I see from them Mormons compared to the poison fruits being offered by self proclaimed uber “Christians”, I suspect the Mormons are going to be more welcome then the sanctimonious Uber “christian” at God’s judgment seat”


Not likely.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
(Gal 1:8-9)

Mormons deny Jesus Christ’s eternal deity, character and mission. Ergo, they are dead in their sins, just like every other non-believer.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 8:32:26 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: mlizzy

Mormons are not Christians.

I’m voting for Romney.

So there.


14 posted on 08/23/2012 8:32:48 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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>> For the Republicans, that requirement is a person must be a Christian.

GTH, bigot. The Republicans primaries elected a Mormon over two Catholics. And try floating a poll with Binyamin Netanyahu up against the “Christian” Barack Obama if you’re not convinced.

Your divisiveness is no match for our contempt.


15 posted on 08/23/2012 8:33:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: mlizzy
Mormons are members of a cult.

Cults, Movements, World Religions
Sects and Satanic Cults

16 posted on 08/23/2012 8:33:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Patrick1
I'm with you. I don't care what someone's religion is or if they have none.

Moslem does not count as it is a death cult.

17 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:05 PM PDT by Octar
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To: mlizzy

It’s kind of a Zen question. The sound of one hand clapping.

In fact Mormons think they are the ONLY christians.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: mlizzy

Christians believe in the Trinity: God the Father, GOD THE SON, and God the Holy Spirit. They do not believe that Jesus is satans brother or that God the Father and Mary had sex and had Jesus. I know they do not believe that they are gods and will have their own planets if they are good. romney is hoping for a galaxy.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:14 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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