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Scholar Says Mormon Scripture Not an Egyptian Translation
Signature books ^ | 2012 | Signature Books

Posted on 02/10/2012 9:34:37 AM PST by reaganaut

Chicago—In 1835 a traveling curiosity peddler of Egyptian mummies arrived in the small town of Kirtland, Ohio. He caught the attention of Joseph Smith (1805-44), the controversial founder of the Mormon religion. Smith secured a large sum of money from his followers ($2,400, or $60,000 in today’s dollars) to purchase four Egyptian mummies with scrolls of papyri. Smith announced that he could do what no one else could do: translate the ancient hieroglyphics. Smith asserted that the papyri contained the writings of the biblical prophets Abraham and Joseph. He titled his translation of the papyri the “Book of Abraham.” Smith’s translation contained several images from the papyri and in 1851 was published as part of the Mormon scripture called “The Pearl of Great Price.”

Now, for the first time, the surviving papyri have been translated into English in their entirety. In analyzing and translating the ancient texts, Robert K. Ritner, foremost American scholar of Egyptology, has determined that they were prepared for deceased men and women in Thebes during the Greco-Roman period. They have nothing to do with Abraham, Joseph, or a planet called Kolob, as Smith had claimed.

“Except for those willfully blind,” writes Professor Ritner of the University of Chicago’s Oriental Institute, “the case is closed.” In his new book, The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition, he also accuses two scholars of Egyptology at Mormon-owned Brigham Young University of borrowing and distorting his own writings in trying to defend Smith’s interpretations as authentically translated Egyptian. Smith’s translation narrative tells of a young Abraham who is about to become a human sacrifice at the request of his father. It also tells of a human pre-mortal existence and teaches that the Egyptian pharaohs were cursed by God (leading to the Mormon priesthood restrictions on African Americans). It also established the Mormon theology for multiple gods.

The Mormon Church restricts access to the original papyri, which it owns. Ritner gained access to high resolution scans through a third party. He concluded that the papyri are ordinary Egyptian funeral texts, with possibly a few interesting side notes. For example, one of the Smith papyri is the “Document of Breathing Made by Isis” and is the oldest known datable copy (pre-150 BCE). Otherwise, Ritner states, anyone investigating claims of ancient evidence for Smith’s translation should not “waste his time,” although he does admit “that the study of the Mormon period of Egyptomania is interesting by itself.”

Concerning the charges of uncredited borrowing, Ritner draws attention to the “striking resemblance” to his own work in later publications by Michael D. Rhodes, an Associate Research Professor of Egyptology with BYU’s religion faculty. “One can legitimately raise the question of plagiarism,” says Ritner. In some cases, Rhodes “tacitly adopted my reading, but failed to remove his punctuation from an earlier attempt to translate the artifacts.”

A fragment from the original Joseph Smith papyri, now “Facsimile No. 1” in the Mormon scripture, “The Pearl of Great Price.” Because of the incomplete nature of the fragment, a contemporary of Joseph Smith filled in the missing portions. Joseph Smith’s text begins, “The Book of Abraham. Translated from the papyrus, by Joseph Smith.”Ritner is equally critical of the work of Associate Research Professor of Egyptology John Gee, of BYU’s Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship, and the late Hugh Nibley, a BYU religion professor (BYU does not have a department of Egyptology).

For members of the Mormon religion, Smith’s “translation” remains a product of their faith.

The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition by Robert K. Ritner with contributions by Marc Coenen, H. Michael Marquardt, and Christopher Woods is published by the Smith-Pettit Foundation of Salt Lake City, and distributed by Signature Books, also of Salt Lake City. The type was set by the Oriental Institute at the University of Chicago.

About the authors and their essays: Robert K. Ritner, Professor of Egyptology at the Oriental Institute, University of Chicago, has published over 100 books and articles on Egyptian religion, magic, medicine, language, and literature, as well as social and political history. Christopher Woods is an Associate Professor of Sumerology, University of Chicago (“The Practice of Egyptian Religion at ‘Ur of the Chaldees’”), Marc Coenen has an Egyptian Studies PhD., University of Leuven, Belgium (“The Ownership and Dating of Certain Joseph Smith Papyri”), and H. Michael Marquardt, is author of The Revelations of Joseph Smith: Text and Commentary (“Joseph Smith’s Egyptian Papers: A History”).


TOPICS: Apologetics; History; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: inman; lds; mormon; romney; scripture
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This is one of the many things that led me out of Mormonism. The LDS consistently lie about the origins of this and other books of their scripture. Rather than admit Joseph Smith was wrong, they cover up the truth or make excuses.
1 posted on 02/10/2012 9:34:50 AM PST by reaganaut
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I will endeavour to control my shock at this news.

Done.

2 posted on 02/10/2012 9:42:25 AM PST by Oztrich Boy
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“Except for those willfully blind,” writes Professor Ritner of the University of Chicago’s Oriental Institute, “the case is closed.”

That's some speecy meat-a-balls.

3 posted on 02/10/2012 9:43:50 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: reaganaut

Smith found the text in sarcophagi???

I thought he pulled it out of his hat!


4 posted on 02/10/2012 9:48:32 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Relax, it's a joke! Don't get your magic knickers in a bunch!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Willful blindness is something that, sadly, a lot of Mormons are afflicted with.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 9:49:21 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Here is the Democrat response to this news:

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6 posted on 02/10/2012 9:49:43 AM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Smith found the text in sarcophagi???

I thought he pulled it out of his hat!

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He pulled the Book of Mormon out of his hat. The Book of Abraham he claimed was a translation of some actual papyri, facsimiles of the graphics are still in LDS books of scripture today, even though they have been debunked for decades.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 9:51:42 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: newheart

I wouldn’t care if Mitt had a ‘born again’ experience (something completely shunned in Mormonism) and became an Evangelical. I STILL wouldn’t vote for him...ever.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 9:52:45 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Theres more than one way to write fiction...


9 posted on 02/10/2012 9:54:20 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: reaganaut

I think that it is well established that Joseph Smith was a professional fraud, and that the Mormons know this better than anyone. Lying about Smith has made them into constant deceivers.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 9:54:56 AM PST by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: newheart

Actually Barry Dunham is a Mormon...


11 posted on 02/10/2012 9:56:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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Wow ... and Hodar read me the riot act on another thread for an “assault” on Mormons when I said that Mormons are not supposed to use caffeine, while joking that Romney’s election might cause carding at the coffee shop (this was on the thread about people selling beer to Native Americans). He/She won’t have to worry about low blood pressure for a while!


12 posted on 02/10/2012 9:59:17 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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LOL. Interestingly, the prohibition is against all ‘hot drinks’, I know a lot of Mormons who downed Jolt cola or Mt. Dew like it was going to disappear.

When I was LDS it was either all coffee and tea (incl decaf and herbal) or it was all caffeine. I was in the no caffeine camp. I drank 7up and still drank herbal (no caffeine) teas, mostly for medicinal reasons (I grew up holistic).


13 posted on 02/10/2012 10:07:13 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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No matter how hard the Mormon church tries, it will never get beyond the fact that Joseph Smith was running a scam. It’s a business that is stuck to its fortune teller.


14 posted on 02/10/2012 10:09:11 AM PST by pallis
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Dum dum dum dum dum....

15 posted on 02/10/2012 10:14:38 AM PST by GraceG
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To: reaganaut
You would probably find this thread amusing - the fun starts at post 37 ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2844520/posts

16 posted on 02/10/2012 10:16:59 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Actually Barry Dunham is a Mormon..”

I thought it was Steve Dunham?


17 posted on 02/10/2012 10:19:05 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: reaganaut

18 posted on 02/10/2012 10:22:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: reaganaut

meanwhile, it’s perfectly believable that:

1. bushes can burn without being scorched
2. the dead can be reanimated
3. people can walk on water
4. people can be cured of blindness by a touch of a hand
5. eating fish on friday means something
6. big funny hats mean you hold higher ‘rank’ in a religion
7. a book pulled together from numerous authors is ‘the word of God’

etc etc

point is, any religion can be attacked, and usually is, by those in another religion. all belief systems are based on ‘faith’ ... which means, no proof

if a group of people enjoy their religion and aren’t hurting anyone else, then what place do you have to denigrate their beliefs? you’re just a bigot and your type doesn’t belong on FR or in America. the founders would have found your ilk as repulsive as those they left in europe


19 posted on 02/10/2012 10:26:22 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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This is one of the many things that led me out of Mormonism. The LDS consistently lie about the origins of this and other books of their scripture.

It's a shame more Mormons don't investigate as you did. But then most involved in cultish religions seldom do so....and why they remain.

I have read also about the many places they claim and there is zero archaeological evidence that those places ever existed.

20 posted on 02/10/2012 10:27:47 AM PST by caww
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