Posted on 09/10/2011 7:14:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Actress Kristin Chenoweth is a self-identifying Christian who has sparked controversy by speaking out about her support of the gay community in an interview with lesbian and gay publication The Advocate.
The LBGT publication asked the TV and theater star: "What would you ask people who cite Christianity as their justification for passing laws that discriminate against people?"
Chenoweth replied, "I would ask, 'What would Jesus do?' It sounds so cliché and Pollyanna-ish, but I have a feeling if he were on the earth today, he wouldn't be walking around saying, 'You’re going to hell' and 'You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.' I think he'd be accepting and loving."
Chenoweth is best known for her theater and television roles such as Glinda in "Wicked" and April Rhodes on "Glee." The actress is also releasing her fourth studio album Some Lessons Learned on Sept. 13.
Chenoweth is not new to controversy over her conflicting beliefs. In 2005, she was fired from a "Woman in Faith" concert for her support of gay rights.
Analysts for Focus on the Family refer to pro-gay Christians as a part of a larger movement called "Pro-Gay Revisionist Theology." Leaders of this movement claim Christians' prejudice against homosexuals leads them to misread biblical texts about homosexuality.
Christian Research Institute's Joseph P. Gudel says, "I realize that it is not 'politically correct' to speak critically concerning any person or group. Nonetheless, true Christian love does not ignore immorality and the lives ruined by it, but speaks out in the hope of helping those individuals."
Contradictions are not Chenoweth's concern, however. "I don't judge you for your opinions, so please don't judge me for mine," the actress said in response to critics.
"I read my Bible and I pray and all of that – I really do," Chenoweth told The Advocate. "But at the same time, I don't think being gay is a sin. Period."
Analysts for Focus on the Family refer to pro-gay Christians as a part of a larger movement called “Pro-Gay Revisionist Theology.” Leaders of this movement claim Christians’ prejudice against homosexuals leads them to misread biblical texts about homosexuality.
What part of “abomination” do we misinterpret?
Oh and I missed the other line of yours being that your post is intermixed between unsourced quotes and then your own words to me.
It is you who are insultive being that you make assumptions claiming that I am something I am not. Your psot is also not even a response to my post that it claims to be and you never even address my statement but instead you just make up a position and attribute it to me instead.
Your post seems to be more one that is trying to make the case for the leftist policy of ‘Seperation of Church and State’ and supports anti-religious bigotry.
[ Jesus actually talked more about hell when HE was on earth, than He did heaven. He had no problem explaining the sinner’s destiny if they continued in their sinful lifestyle. ]
The entire bible talks very little about Heaven or Hell..
Jesus came to make All religion obsolete... AND did..
Currently all religion is obsolete.. What a nice man...
One cannot be an authentic conservative if one wants to rewrite traditional morality to suit one’s own besetting temptations, be they temptations to gluttony, sodomy, adultery, avarice, . . . Authentic conservatives don’t “move the boundary markers of their fathers.”
On the other hand, not expecting moral perfection from conservatives in order to be considered conservatives, I don’t see that falling into any particular sin, provided one repents and does not try to call evil “good”, prevents one from being an authentic conservative. The groups you decry are trying to “move the boundary markers”, and it is that, not the particular sin they are trying to justify, that makes them not conservative.
Great idea! I did the same thing for Jehovah Witnesses’ The Watchtower when I find them in hospital waiting rooms.
“Focusing on Conservatism, I am of the strong opinion that homosexuality is counter to its core values. I’ll go so far to state that a “Gay Conservative” is a contradiction in terms. I personally see organizations such as GOProud and the Log Cabinites as a fifth column undermining Constitutional Conservatism.”
Indeed. Check #26 of the Goals of Communism, put in the U.S. Congressional Record back in 1963 by an anti-communist Democrat(when such a creature existed)-
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Romans 3:23
“ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
Great post. God bless your mother.
The condemnation of homosexuals or of ANYONE does NOT bring them closer to the Lord. Every single FReeper probably has someone in their family with a disorder....alcohol, eating, neurosis, etc. Telling someone to “go and sin no more” doesn’t help anyone (not you in your witness nor the person you are purporting to change through condemnation...) Loving them, praying for them and being a Godly example does much more good.
Good post. God loves us. ALL of us.
Did you feel that my post was so over the top and against what FR stands for that you had to tag JR?
I was not promoting homosexuality. The article, imo, is an actress’ view of how homosexuals are treated by the Church. I was replying to the article with my opinion that homosexuals should be treated just like anyone with a disorder....not with wagging fingers or declarations of “go and sin no more”, but with love.
If that is disallowed on this website, then I am surprised, and I am also surprised that you felt you had to tattle on me.
Thank you, you said my thoughts much better than I! :)
Great post, but I have to add that I think that this side of Heaven there is very little possibility that even Church discipline will reach the level to what God has called it... in other words, the Body of Christ is fallible. We all have a sinful fallen nature and thank God- literally, that He provided a way through His Son, Jesus for us to become Sons of God. Through the Holy Spirit we can do His will and become more like Him- BUT in the meantime we have this flesh that we must deal with daily. All that to say that although the Church can follow God’s Word as far as discipline it doesn’t always turn out as planned. I was in a Church where a couple got divorced and the husband was allowed to remain on the worship team, even though he treated his wife horribly. I have every confidence that the Pastor and Elders were Godly men trying to do God’s will, but this happened anyway. The Pastors and Elders were NOT God, therefore they were fallible.
So although we have the Bible to guide us, we are all going to go off the path at one time or another. That’s been happening since Adam and Eve. And will continue to happen until Jesus returns.
“Love is wanting others to escape the fiery depths of hell prepared for the devil and his angels. Not sitting by condoning everything others do in the name of love and acceptance. This is another heretical myth being perpetuated by today’s church.”
I think the early Church preached Jesus and salvation.
Not sure how much harvest there would be if the message was “Jesus loves you (if you don’t sin).”
And all religions agree that same sex acts are abominable, sinful, wrong and not to be accepted, celebrated or even tolerated.
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Homosexual behavior is unnatural, unhealthy, and every monotheist religion in the world, and even those that are not such as Buddhism and even Taoism, hold same sex acts in abomination. Not only are such acts disgusting, anyone who is attracted to them has mental problems - ie, is mentally ill. Add to that, the homosexual agenda is wholely anti-freedom, anti-Constitutional principles, and from its inception has been clearly revolutionary; its intent is to destroy societal norms and morality including the natural family.
It's really quite simple, and anyone whining about people condemning others to hell is missing the point. Anyone going to hell or not going to hell is solely based on how each person lives their life -it's between each person and God. But it is also simple that anyone who flagrantly and unrepentantly engages in vile sexual transgressions that are condemned in every single religion does not have a happy future (or present).
I mentioned his name in a post and thus I pinged him per FR etiquette. In my response, you'll also note that I was aiming to get a clarification of the statement from the founder expanding on FR's opposition to all forms of homosexuality. FReeper UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide later contended that my interpretation was too broad and was applicable only to government enforced homosexualism. And that's why, once again, the boss was added to the recipients -- to get a ruling (as it were) to define the extent to which Free Republic stands in opposition to homosexuality. In fact, if I'm wrongly taking a hardline stance, I'll humbly submit to Mr. Robinson's correction (and thus am "tattling" on myself).
I was replying to the article with my opinion that homosexuals should be treated just like anyone with a disorder....not with wagging fingers or declarations of “go and sin no more”, but with love.
I personally take a zero-tolerance stance with regard to homosexuality. Sodomites do not suffer from a disorder. A disorder is something which an individual has no control over, such as muscular dystrophy. Instead, sodomites deliberately and through their own free will disobey the will of God. Sodomites (and they certainly aren't "gay" in my lexicon for they are actually sad and miserable) need to make the decision to correct their wicked ways. Those that do can be redeemed and restored to normalcy through the Infinite Power of God's Healing.
I'll also add that I personally think Conservatism is diametrically opposed to homosexuality in all forms. Therefore, I think that advocates of a "big tent" policy inclusive of sodomites do Conservatism only harm. Fiscal Conservatism and Social Conservatism are harmonious and are inseparable, IMHO.After all, even if the governments of Sodom and Gomorrah were structured with low taxes, I doubt that God would have taken that as a mitigating factor when He Righteously and Justly smote them.
I can tell you take a zero-tolerance policy with homosexuals. I personally think that is sad. They are people.
And we will have to agree to disagree about homosexuals “deliberately and with free will” disobey the will of God. No one knows what causes homosexuality, but I have learned through simple observation that some children have homosexual tendencies at a young age. Maybe they were abused? Maybe there was a chemical imbalance in the womb? At this point, no one knows for sure what the underlying cause is, but the point is that no matter what the cause we are to love the person.
The article that was posted wasn’t about a CONSERVATIVE’s view of homosexuals, it was a Christian’s (the actress) view of homosexuals. So that is what I addressed.
“But it is also simple that anyone who flagrantly and unrepentantly engages in vile sexual transgressions that are condemned in every single religion does not have a happy future (or present). “
Isn’t that true of anyone who flagrantly and unrepentantly walks around with any other disorder? Don’t all religions condemn alcoholism? Overeating? Cheating? Shoplifting? Those people don’t have a happy future (or present), either. The article talks about how Christians should respond to homosexuals. And I am saying that response should be with love.
I do believe our Republic is in trouble because of homosexual marriage, but I don’t believe that we can win the debate on it by calling people sodomites to their face and telling them to go and sin no more.
So Jesus wasn't showing love to the woman caught in adultery when he told her "Go, and sin no more"? You think people engaging in some of the most vile sinful behavior should not be told to "sin no more"? You say God loves everyone, and this is true. Does a parent love a child who's gone wrong? Committed crimes? Of course. Does the parent love the crimes? Of course not. Ever heard of "Tough Love"?
God loves us but He doesn't love our wrong behavior or mentality or hearts polluted with lust, greed, anger or envy. He wants us to change, not stay sitting in our filth.
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