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Tiny church finds original King James Bible
CNN ^ | 3-28-11 | Richard Allen Greene

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:52:28 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

A little English village church has just made a remarkable discovery.

The ornate old Bible that had been sitting in plain view on a table near the last row of pews for longer than anyone could remember is an original King James Bible - one of perhaps 200 surviving 400-year-old original editions of arguably the most important book ever printed in English.

In fact, the Bible at St. Laurence Church in Hilmarton, England, was sitting right under a hand-lettered sign saying it was an original.

The sign said it had been found in "the parish chest" in 1857, that the cover had been added, and that it was the second of the two impressions published in 1611 - the year of first publication.

But no one knew whether to believe it, parish council member Geoff Procter said. As the anniversary of publication in 1611 approached, they decided it was worth investigating.

"We had no way of knowing whether it really was a 1611 Bible so we had to get it verified somehow," he said.

He and two other church members took it to a specialist, the Rev. David Smith at the Museum of the Book in London.

Smith knew immediately what he was looking at, Procter said.

"We put it on his table and he opened it and immediately he said, 'Yes, this is a 1611 Bible,'" Procter remembered.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: firstedition; godsgravesglyphs; kingjamesbible; kingjamesversion; kjv; original
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All

Praise God Almighty...and thanks to King James for this wonderfull translation made by the KJV Bible translators...who, in fact, were all experts in the Greek and Hebrew, etc, and most importantly, were experts in the target languages in which the King James Bible was translated into seven KJV Bible languages. Knowing the target language IS PARAMOUNT for succeeding in an accurate translation. I love the KJV Bible and own two 18th century KJV Bibles which I purchased for a steal at $50 each. If you want to verify the accuracy of the KJV Bible, acquire Crabbs synonyms and you will learn the nuances of the accurate choice of word synonyms utilized by the translators. Secondly, Greek words were simply NOT homogenized into a single word meaning, ie, translated word used exactly wherever the same Greek word occurs. This modern approach completely disregards the context. Context is PARAMOUNT for an accurate translation. Of which, sadly, modern scholarship disdains.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 5:57:58 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: the_Watchman
How many people out there speak King James English today?

I cud smite thee mightily for thine words.

22 posted on 03/28/2011 6:10:50 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm madder than a Charlie Sheen hatter about ObamaCare.)
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To: bibletruth

I agree with you. My Grandfather attended Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville in the early 1900’s.

He could translate both Greek and Latin tho not Aramaic.

I never discussed it at length, but remember him telling Daddy that the King James version was an extremely accurate translation. He went on at some length about how much effort they put into it, sort of what you were saying.

I personally like “The Living Bible” which is a paraphrase but very readable and I think it does get the meaning right.


23 posted on 03/28/2011 6:17:07 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Roses are red,

Violets are blue,

Read this Bible,

If you can't read Greek or Hebrew.

(bad rhyme on the first page)

24 posted on 03/28/2011 6:19:03 PM PDT by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (If Mohammed were alive today, he wouldnÂ’t be allowed to live within 1000 yards of a school.)
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To: yarddog
I personally like “The Living Bible” which is a paraphrase but very readable and I think it does get the meaning right.

Please, don't do that. You are reading what someone tells you what they think it means, not what it says. It's fine for beginners but once it's time for the training wheels to come off, step up to the New King James Version. Very readable. Good notations for those that need them, but it's the real deal.

25 posted on 03/28/2011 6:21:19 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm madder than a Charlie Sheen hatter about ObamaCare.)
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To: SkyPilot
The King James translation is not one ever used in the Catholic Church. Interestingly enough, while modern editions of the King James translations don't include the Deuterocanicals, the original 1611 edition included them plus three additional books previously included in the Catholic Bible as Apocrypha, but now excluded.
26 posted on 03/28/2011 6:24:54 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: stars & stripes forever
We need to go back to the original texts...

Right like the 11th century Hebrew?

27 posted on 03/28/2011 6:42:00 PM PDT by Rippin
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To: yarddog

“I personally like “The Living Bible” which is a paraphrase but very readable and I think it does get the meaning right.”

I gave my older sister a “Living Bible” thinking it might be easier for her. She said it was finally a Bible that she could read and understand. Between that Bible, and two women having a Bible study with her in prison once a week for a year, she became a Christian.

Several years later when she died of her alcholism it was amazing to see her attitude of how God was watching over her, and that it would be okay. Especially since most of her life had been spent wallowing in guilt and fear, and how could God love her with all the bad things she had done, etc.

Hard to read the Psalms in anything but the King James though!


28 posted on 03/28/2011 6:42:11 PM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: KoRn

lol....Gotta love Rick.


29 posted on 03/28/2011 6:45:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: 21twelve

The King James version is so majestic that I think that old joke about that being the version Jesus wrote might just have a hint of truth.

It can be a bit difficult to read at times but that language is basically like reading Shakespeare.


30 posted on 03/28/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have used the King James Version for many years and believe it to be the true version of the Christian Bible. “Revelation 22:19,” And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” I am not putting down other versions of the Bible just suggesting one might consider what has been changed in the book for easy reading and understanding.


31 posted on 03/28/2011 6:50:40 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: JamesA

I agree completely with your post. If it’s wrong, who cares how easy it is to read? 2 Timothy 2:15 is a good example. It’s truth is profound in a KJV. When it’s changed for convenience, the truth becomes water-downed and to little or no effect. God opens the eyes of believers to understand His Word. It really isn’t that difficult and what a blessing a KJV is to all who open the pages and begin to study His word of truth, rightly divided.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 6:58:20 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That’s awesome! And it’s funny that the sign SAID it was an original, but folks just assumed that the person who wrote it was exaggerating. ;o)


33 posted on 03/28/2011 7:07:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: yarddog
It can be a bit difficult to read at times but that language is basically like reading Shakespeare.

Maybe that's why I like it so well. I'm Catholic, but every Christmas, I listen to "A Festival of Lessons and Carols" from King's College Chapel. The readings are from the King James, and I've gotten to where, when I listen to the Scripture readings at Mass during Advent, and Christmas, I can hear the wording from the King James, instead of that of the New American. It is just beautiful language.

34 posted on 03/28/2011 7:15:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I prefer the KJV. Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 03/28/2011 7:31:02 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: yarddog
Ping...and thanks.

One additional reason why I like the KJV Bible is because when I read Proverbs I can match several scriptures in Proverbs which clearly match scripture events which our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, was performing in the Gospels.

Furthermore, the KJV Bible makes for an excellent study of the book of Proverbs. The book of Proverbs is actually an outline of some of the events during the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ. I am writing blogs and articles on Proverbs: for which its greater purpose was to teach a Jewish man how to grow and mature as a son; Christ Jesus actually utilized Proverbs in this way, in His flesh only, to grow into a mature son, so that Christ could fulfill that Jewish son-ship program. Outside of Soloman, son of David, Jesus Christ was the only Jewish man, via Proverbs, to attain unto a mature son as a man of understanding, unto wise counsel, to understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. [Proverbs 1:5-6]

Proverbs 1:2-6, is the outline of the mature son program, and it serves as a outline of the entire book of Proverbs. The balance of the book of Proverbs follows this outline.

36 posted on 03/28/2011 7:51:53 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: SkyPilot

Of course Catholics believe in the Bible, but we use a different translation. We have more books in our Bible, for one thing.

When I first became a Catholic, we were not encouraged to read the King James version because it was “Protestant”. However, I already had read it for years because I had been raised as a Protestant, although many Protestants had already switched from the KJV to the “Revised Standard” version. At that time, the approved “Catholic” Bible for English readers was the Douay translation, pronounced Doo-way. I still have a copy. When my kids were in religion classes they used the “New Jeruslalem” translation. Now, a lot of Catholics use the New American Bible. But, never fear. A new Catholic translation is coming out soon.

I used to attend Bible classes with about 3 versions of the Bible laid open on my lap, following along and comparing the language. I can’t say that I find one version better than another. They all have their beauty and truth. Furthermore, the more I read, the less I know.

Although the KJV had already passed out of favor — even with Protestants — by the time I reached young adulthood in the late ‘50s, the passages that we all know by heart all seem to come from the KJV. I have at least 4 different translations on my bookshelf, and I appreciate them all.

Does that answer your question? And yes, Catholics are Christians.


37 posted on 03/28/2011 7:55:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: KoRn

I just burst out LOL on that pic but Chumley would have given him $250.00. ;)


38 posted on 03/28/2011 8:35:07 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So, they had a sign above the bible sating that it was an original, but they didn’t really belive it? Huh?


39 posted on 03/28/2011 8:39:55 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: KoRn

Those “Pawn Star” guys really cheap (cheat?) everybody, don’t they? Then they probably turn around and sell it for a lot more.


40 posted on 03/28/2011 8:50:34 PM PDT by decisis
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