Posted on 03/05/2011 5:29:44 AM PST by WPaCon
Lately, there seems to be a lot of conflict on the religion forum. Much of this has been between Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. To show that we are all united as Christians and to reduce animosity, I hope we can all agree to one of 4 following statements:
1) I am Catholic. I love Orthodox and Protestant Christians. I consider Orthodox Christians and Protestants to definitely be Christian. All Christians need to work together to defeat our common enemies-- specifically Islam, liberal postmodernism, and totalitarian communism.
2) I am Protestant. I love Orthodox and Catholic Christians. I consider Orthodox Christians and Catholics to definitely be Christian. All Christians need to work together to defeat our common enemies-- specifically Islam, liberal postmodernism, and totalitarian communism.
3) I am an Orthodox Christian. I love Catholic and Protestant Christians. I consider Catholics and Protestants to definitely be Christian. All Christians need to work together to defeat our common enemies-- specifically Islam, liberal postmodernism, and totalitarian communism.
4) I am a non-believer. I love Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant Christians. I consider Orthodox Christians, Catholics, and Protestants to definitely be Christian. All Christians need to work together to defeat our common enemies-- specifically Islam, liberal postmodernism, and totalitarian communism.
I feel confident that most freepers agree to at least one of these statements, even if they do not say so.
If you agree with any of these statements, please feel free to say so.
Thanks!
Why is my tagline “Anti-Catholic”? I see it more as pro-Jesus.
FWIW, I could just as well write, “May Protestantism decrease and Christ increase.” Or “May all denominations decrease and Christ increase.”
My point is that our factions and affiliations should take second seat to our adoption into the family of God.
Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
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[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
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[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
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[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
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[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
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[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
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[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
Careful, narses. Quix may lay claim to your graphic.
He does seem to claim infallibility, doesn’t he?
CONGRATS.
Perhaps you could teach Titanites how to do it according to the Rel Forum rules.
NOPE.
NOT BY A TRILLION MILES.
However, BY GOD’S GRACE, there are some things I know for a fact.
And it would be dishonest of me to pretend otherwise.
However, thanks for yet again makint it personal.
That would make Roman Catholics...
"Multiple Trick Ponies"
Because Rome believes in "alter Christus" and a "co-redeemer" and other "mediators."
Ratzinger called all Protestant and Orthodox churches “defective.”
Don’t blame the messenger. Why not try correcting the man who said it.
You’ve had cause enough from the Islamists!
Blessings.
Is that you? Why are you eating what looks to be a rotten egg?
***WPaCon Since Feb 20, 2011***
Welcome to FR!
To answer your question, none of the above.
Christians are called to spread the Gospel. That is the cure for all the bogeymen you listed, not mortal combat.
I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. I immediately ran over and said “Stop! Don’t do it!”
“Why shouldn’t I?” he said. I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”
“Like what?” “Well ... are you religious or atheist?” “Religious.”
“Me too! Are you Christian or Jewish?”
“Christian.” “Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?” “Protestant.”
“Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?” “Baptist.”
“Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?” “Baptist Church of God.”
“Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?” “Reformed Baptist Church of God.”
“Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?” “Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!”
To which I said, “Die, heretic scum!” and pushed him off.
Moslems, Communists, “secularists” and aggressive atheists hate every Christian (except the ones they’ve subverted and co-opted), observant Jews, Hindus, and any non-demoninational or otherwise unchurched/untempled/unsynagogued believers in God equally. Heck, Muslims hate Buddhists and animaists, too; and Communists see them as fodder.
This thread is evidence of the truth of the OP’s comments.
The vile cabal of enemies listed hate Christians equally whether they’re Catholics, Copts, Orthodox or any variety of Protestant (other than the abovementioned co-opted churches). Fighting among others who believe in God, even if they have different - even wrong! (shock!) - beliefs or practices, is the best way to ensure that the enemies of God and freedom will win.
Communists, Moslems, those pushing atheism and mindless hedonism - they’re laughing with glee at fighting like the kind on this thread. They love it!
I would add another common enemy- moral relativism.
The ones who do not like having their hatred and prejudices pointed out will squawk the loudest about open debate. Which really means they have no interest in discussing things rationally and truthfully.
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