I'm not greatly interested in arguing about whether such are authentic, Biblical, accurate etc. The Lord is able to show those of a true heart toward Him about those issues. He is well able to help folks spit out the bones, though I'm not aware of any "bone" in this article.
The Lord is well able to help folks understand what HE WOULD HAVE THEM DO REGARDING "THEREFORE WHAT" IN THEIR LIVES.
Those who wish to naysay . . . throw rocks, quibble, deny, pretend that such visitations and visions are not true; can't happen; are not for this era; etc. etc. etc. simply do not GET IT. Some seem unwilling or incapable of GETTING IT.
It will likely not be a Salvation issue--FOR THEM--UNLESS they cross some line in scoffing at God; might be potentially saved, rescued by such a vision had they earnestly and fair-mindedly sought God about it . . . or . . . unless in their scoffing and dismissiveness, they failed to take the vision to someone they know who might have been rescued from the fires of hell by it. That MIGHT not be a Salvation issue for the individual failing . . . but they'll still be held accountable in some sense for those they failed to reach out to with such a Vision/Visitation WHEN GOD WOULD HAVE HAD THEM DO SO.
This is not the era, age, dispensation to be slack in terms of rescuing the perishing. NOT AT ALL.
Let the wise be forewarned.
END TIMES, DREAMS, VISIONS, PROPHECY PING LIST PING
RE ANOTHER HEAVENLY VISITATION NARRATIVE.
This one speaks to a Pre-Trib Rapture.
Come to think of it, IIRC, if any do at all, it always seems to be to a Pre-Trib Rapture. Interesting.
In Matthew 5:26 Christ is condemning sin and speaks of liberation only after expiation. “Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.”
See also: 1 Corinthians 3:15: “If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.”
Hope this is helpful.
I got as far as the Alexander part and stopped. If its true, then extremely disturbing.
Whoa. - For later reading.
This is what I meant. This is no longer Christianity in this article but New-age madness. Anyone who believes this is just like the hippies. How can anyone believe in Jesus Christ and believe in this nonsense?
See Quix, if you'd listen to Catholics more often, you'd already know that.
We actually have a prayer......."St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle........"etc.
Freepmail me if you'd like a copy.
I didn't see Mary even mentioned, so I'm not sure why you're haranguing us about "Maryolators".
Later.
Amazing! I wonder if anyone will come up with any legitimate scripture the refutes anything she is saying.
Thanks, Quix! Will print it off for later reading!
For this screed, quix says, “I’m not greatly interested in arguing about whether such are authentic, Biblical, accurate etc.”
But if it is a Catholic thread - watch out!
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
BFL
Remember we have to test the spirits. I have had supernatural occurences in my life. Foremost I have covered the blood of Christ on the supernatural. I have had auditory supernatural speak to me. I have covered it with pray.
We are not just to expect some supernatural experience to be true. We go by what The Holy Spirit shows. Which is to test the spirit. 1John4 Even if the visionary says it in the story. She or Him can lie. Why a human being can still lie. Then still have a chance to repent because we(human beings) are not judged yet until after death. The fallen angels are already judge as Christ says in scripture. This is why they can not confess in the personal pronoun that Christ came in the flesh 1 John4. But remember again a human being can lie until death then he or she is judged.
Thanks for the ping. I know you mean well.
Praise Jesus!!!
Moreover, I do not want 25% Christian nor 95%, but 100%. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN, YOU HAVE TO BE HOLY AS I MYSELF AM HOLY; I came to take you for a journey".
The problem: this statement says in order to get to heaven Christians must be 100% faithful and "Holy as I myself am Holy". This flys in the face of 1 John 1:8-11 (Emphasis added):
If we (i.e., Christians) say that WE have NO SIN, we are DECEIVING OURSELVES AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US.
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that WE HAVE NOT SINNED, WE MAKE HIM A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US.
According to God's Word, believers are already sanctified, perfected and holy in the Lord Jesus Christ, not based upon anything which they have done or could do but based upon all that He has done for us:
By this will we HAVE BEEN SANCTIFIED through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL." (Hebrews 10:10, Emphasis added)
For by ONE offering HE HAS PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED. (Hebrews 10:14, Emphasis added)
Our standing as Christians is not dependent upon our holiness, sinlessness or faithfulness. It is totally dependent upon the finished work of Christ and the believer's position IN HIM. The Lord Jesus Christ has cleansed us:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but YOU WERE WASHED, but YOU WERE SANCTIFIED, but YOU WERE JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
Then the Lord showed me thousands of people who were SUFFERING IN HELL, and He told me: "You see, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE KNEW ME WHEN THEY WERE ON EARTH.
Biblically, there is a massive problem with the above false statement attributed to the Lord Jesus Christ. This statement says some of those suffering in hell KNEW Jesus when they were on earth (i.e., they were Christians) but ended up in hell anyway! This totally contradicts what Jesus Himself has said in John 10:25-30 (Emphasis mine):
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me.
“But you do not believe because you are NOT of MY SHEEP. “MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE AND I KNOW THEM AND THEY FOLLOW ME; AND I GIVE ETERNAL LIFE TO THEM, AND THEY SHALL N E V E R PERISH; and NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
“My Father, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME IS GREATER THAN ALL; AND NO ONE IS ABLE TO SNATCH THEM OUR OF THE FATHER'S HAND who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
“I and the Father are one.” (John 10:27-30)
God does not contradict Himself, neither does His Word contradict itself. Therefore this woman's vision is false!
I asked Him: "ARE THERE CHRISTIANS IN THIS HELL?", He answered: "Yes, do you know why? They believed in Me but they did not walk according to my Word.
The above statement makes salvation dependent upon works not salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone totally apart from works. Therefore it is TOTALLY UNBIBLICAL and contradicts numerous New Testament passages
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. “For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. “He who BELIEVES IN HIM IS NOT JUDGED; he who does not believe has been judged already, BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BELIEVED in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18, Emphasis added)
“He who BELIEVES in the Son HAS ETERNAL LIFE; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” (John 3:36, Emphasis added. Note: Obey is equated with BELIEVING IN THE SON)
Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” Jesus answered and said to them, “THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YOU BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM HE HAS SENT.” (John 6:28-29)
The Lord gave me a robe of fine linen and a crown. I wore the robe and the crown, then the Lord brought me to another place where I saw things like in a mirror. He told me: "There's neither stain nor crease on your robe, isn't it? None will enter through this door nor take place at this table, unless he is clothed like this. Some among my people on earth have dirtied their robes. Others have crumpled robes, and still others have put theirs aside, and have forgotten them. Tell my people that it's time they washed their robes, ironed them and took them back. Christians should ask the Holy Spirit to help them keeping their robes in good state, because the King will soon celebrate the Marriage Supper in His Father's kingdom".
This is a contradictory statement and God does not contradict Himself!: Jesus supposedly gave her a stainless, creaseless robe of fine linen and a crown and then he tells her the only way Christians get in is if they are "clothed like this" (i.e., pure, spotless, flawless) Then Jesus supposedly says that some have dirtied, crumpled or put aside their robes. He then falsely states that believers are to wash, iron and take their robes back. This is ridiculous and totally unscriptural! God Himself cleanses the believer (1 Corinthians 6:9-11), He is the one who washes and cleanses us, not we ourselves. He is the one who gives us robes bright and clean and Revelation 19:7-8 states that these robes are "THE RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS"
“Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.”
It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen IS THE RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. (Revelation 19:7-8)
How can believers take back, wash and iron robes which are ALREADY "bright and clean" because they are "the righteous acts of the saints"? They can't, it is impossible! = The statements which she is attributing to Christ are FALSE.
The Lord answered me: "I will save your mother, but I will take her home immediately otherwise she will fall back into sin and go to hell. For this reason, as soon as she is converted, she will die some time later and come here, in paradise". Ridiculous statement. Our salvation is not based upon works. As we have seen in John 10:27-30 when the Lord Jesus Christ saves us, we are saved, NEVER to "perish". *Note, the word "never" found in John 10:28 is a TRIPLE NEGATIVE in the Greek: it could literally read:"not ever, never perish"
As Christians living in the last days we have a responsibility to "test the spirits to see if they are from God" and we are to "search the scriptures" to see if what we are being told is true. If what we are being told does not match up with God's Word 100% we are not to believe it or to follow those who tell us these things no matter how much we may like what they are saying:
Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on VISIONS he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, and NOT HOLDING FAST TO THE HEAD (i.e., the Lord Jesus Christ), from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God. (Colossians 2:18-19, Emphasis added)
This "vision-message" won't sit well with the Calvinists.
Ref, Jesse DUPlantis all in one video with hattip to BigSkyFreeper, thanks for link, glad to have it all in one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x75AyoztbMM