Posted on 12/12/2010 9:11:08 AM PST by bibletruth
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days AND tree nights
so shall the Son of man be tree days AND three nights in the heart of the earth.
Wednesday: before 18:00 (pm): Christ is crucified on the cross Wednesday morning outside of Jerusalem and was buried before sundown Wednesday evening
Thursday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Thursday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 1st day; morning completes 1st day.
Friday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Friday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 2nd day; morning completes 2nd day.
Saturday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Saturday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 3rd day; morning completes 3rd day.
Sunday: morning: Christ rose from the dead very early in the morning hours
so shall the Son of man be tree days AND three nights in the heart of the earth.
Wednesday: before 18:00 (pm): Christ is crucified on the cross Wednesday morning outside of Jerusalem and was buried before sundown Wednesday evening
Thursday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Thursday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 1st day; morning completes 1st day.
Friday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Friday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 2nd day; morning completes 2nd day.
Saturday: 18:00 (pm) evening through Saturday morning until 17:59 (pm): evening begins 3rd day; morning completes 3rd day.
Sunday: morning: Christ rose from the dead very early in the morning hours, well before 6am, probably between 1am and 4am. So Sunday cannot count as a full "day".
This fully accounts for 3 full 24 hour days/nights. Friday to Sunday only accounts for 1.33 (34 hours) days. It is impossible to get 3 full 24 hour days/nights with the Friday to Sunday tradition. Friday - Sunday makes Jesus out to be a liar! Christ Jesus said - tree days AND three nights in the heart of the earth. Christ is always right ......yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written .....Romans 3:4
Its refreshing and great to see that some saints / believers on FR actually DO carefully read the Scriptures when Jesus Christ our LORD inerrently wrote in Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days AND tree nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be tree days AND three nights in the heart of the earth.
It's always a blessing from God above to see when Scripture is correctly read and understood. If all would so carefully and prayfully read the Scripture first, before men's traditions, and to not trust our fallible presuppositions that "Sabbath" always means "Saturday"; then a blessing from the LORD will be realized as we see truth revealed by the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
“Watch out for that tree !!!!!”
A good friend quit drinking after a few tree nights.
ping
Leni
With God all things are possible. You might even (if you pray for it) get a correct interpretation of Jewish reckoning of days.
To the Jewish reckoning "a day and a night" is any part of a single 24 hour period. it is an idiom to describe one day. If you reckon correctly Jesus could have died at 11:59:59 on Friday and arose again at 00:00:01 on Sunday and it would still be reckoned as "3 days and 3 nights"
http://www.scripturessay.com/article.php?cat=&id=679
Was Jesus in the grave 3 days? What day was he crucified? What day was he raised? There is one thing we can be sure of and that is Jesus was raised on the first day of the week. We may not understand the full extent of what Jesus meant and how it would be interpreted under Jewish reckoning. Some trying to explain the three nights suggest that Jesus was actually crucified on Thursday, but that would mean that he was in the grave four days and three nights.
“Evening and morning, or night and day, is the Hebrew phrase for a natural day, which the Greeks termed nuchthemeron (Greek for a night and day). According to Jewish reckoning three days and three nights included any part of the first day; the whole of the following night; the next day and its night; and any part of the succeeding or third day.” (Adam Clark)
“The period during which He was to lie in the grave is here expressed in round numbers, according to Jewish way of speaking, which was to regard any part of a day, however small, included within a period of days as a full day.” (Jamieson et al)
http://www.letusreason.org/doct10.htm
Jesus referred to the prophet Jonah, just as he was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so would He be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matt. 12:39-40; Luke 11:30. On another occasion, Jesus stated that He would destroy the temple, and He would raise it again in three days - John 2:19. (This is referring to His body, as his body became the living temple/tabernacle on earth).
Matt 27:62-64: “Therefore command that the tomb be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away, and say to the people, 'He has risen from the dead.' So the last deception will be worse than the first.”
Mark 15:42-44: “Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath, Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent council member, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, coming and taking courage, went in to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Pilate marveled that He was already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him if He had been dead for some time.” This means it was Friday afternoon since the Sabbath day begins at sundown.
Luke 23:54-56: “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near. And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.”
Talmud states he died on the eve of the Sabbath, because he practiced sorcery and took them from their God. Mk.14:12 says on the first day of the Unleaven Bread when they sacrificed the Passover.
John 19:31-33: “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. Then the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first and of the other who was crucified with Him. But when they came to Jesus and saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs.”
A high Sabbath was one that landed on a feast day.
The Gospels of Mark, Luke and John all make it clear that Jesus' burial occurred shortly after His death on the day of “preparation” (Friday) before the Sabbath (Saturday), and ends at the sunset of each day. Mark 15:37-47; Luke 23:53-56; John 19:31. In order for Jesus to have been buried just before the Sabbath (Saturday), Jesus' crucifixion could only have occurred on Friday.
The Bible is clear that Jesus was crucified on the Passover, Friday, then buried later that (Friday) afternoon or evening before the Sabbath (Saturday) began, and then rose from the dead the first day of the week (Sunday). How could there be a fulfillment of Jesus' prediction that He would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth? What exactly does this mean? 3- literal 24- hour days or a statement related to a certain time period.
In Old Testament the expression “one day and one night” was an idiom used often by the Jews for a day, even when it was applied to only a part of a day. The Jewish reference to this period as three days and three nights is strictly in accordance with the Jewish mode of reckoning. Evening and morning, or night and day, is the Hebrew phrase for a natural day. It was a maxim among the Jews in computing time, that a part of a day was to be received or computed as the whole.
Please note that I have provided expert testimonies from several professionals. I didn't use all caps and italics.
Clear evidence refuting your claim from real scholars.
Are your Irish?
It is imperative for you to remember that, before the Holy Spirit released the canon of Holy Scripture to the world, through the Catholic Church, that Holy Spirit guided men in Tradition for several centuries with teachings first given to the Apostles. I do truly respect you FRiend, but whole-heartedly disagree with your personal, and fallible interpretation of Scripture. However, I also wish you a Blessed Sunday. And I give you credit for sticking your neck out like that.
Matthew 13:15-16 - “For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them. But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.”
For the BEST telling of the story of Jonah and the whale, you’ve got to see this 7 minute video (through the eyes of a little girl). OUTSTANDING!
http://vimeo.com/16404771
Amen to that. You are probably a honest and sincere person. I respect that. You post on here something which you strongly believe and wish to share with others (spreading the gospel). That is commendable. However your post is riddled with misspellings and Biblical errors. I say this as a friend, please study some more. If someone told you this or you heard this at a church, please consider other sources. There are a lot of misconceptions out there. Remember that Jesus and the disciples were Jews. Find a Christian faith that is like what they believed and taught. A remnant if you will. God bless.
Aye laddy, at least you’re not a Quartodecimanian!
Well, since the Catholic religion had absolutely nothing to do with either determining or putting any stamp of approval on the canon of Scripture, I doubt BT has to worry too much about Holy Mother Church's opinion of his interpretation of Scripture.
I am guessing that you have inside knowledge of this?
Would you care to share with the rest of us where this great 'revelation' of yours came from!?
Funny .. nowhere in scripture have I ever actually heard the Catholic Church spoken of?
Surely an oversight of mine?
BTW: Before using the .. Built upon the Rock argument .. Please Don't.
Yahoo forums
Catholic debate forum, ACTS, BattleACTS, any of those three have a number of Catholics that will be glad to clear up all of your misunderstandings, but a word of Caution, they are not for the intellectually void or faint of heaart.
Now why is it that Scripture is considered an argument? I didn’t bring Matthew into this, although you did. If it’s a sore point with you, prove to me, and I mean this in a reasonable, civil manner, why I shouldn’t believe what my Church teaches, and has for the last two thousand years. This isn’t an invitation to barrage me with quotes taken out of context. It is an honest request. And please, feel free to use freepmail, since we don’t want to hijack bibletruth’s post’s thread. I’m not insisting. I’m saying honest discourse beats the tar out of sarcasm. Bibletruth knows that while I disagree with him about religious Truth, that I respect him and will treat him civilly, even when we don’t see eye to eye. Either way, your call, FRiend. I promise to be respectful, as well. I only ask the same of you.
Well since it all seems to have started here, (MY misunderstandings and all) I think it only fair that the one making such an assanide statement have the opportunity to Clear Things Up For Me .. (You know .. MY misunderstanding of an assanide statement and all)!
After that .. Maybe .. I Will take my Faint of Heart self, on over to Yahoo and have a look-see at these Enlightened Souls of whom you bra .. uh speak!?
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