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The Source of Adam's Rib in the book of Genesis [Science]
Bible, Chemistry Texts | October 21, 2010

Posted on 10/21/2010 3:25:49 AM PDT by topher

From the book of Genesis:

Gen 2:18-24
18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."
19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.
21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man."
24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
(NIV)

The scientific basis for this passage is interesting.

Humans [as well as other life forms] are made from carbon molecules. The field of Organic Chemistry is the study mainly of the Carbon atom as well as other atoms that bind to Carbon [such as Hydrogen, Nitrogen, and Oxygen].

But what is Adam's Rib?

Is there a scientific basis for this?

The answer is that what makes a man a man is testerone. What makes a woman a woman is the family of hormones known as estrogens.

The estrogens have one less carbon rib than testerone has.

The chemical formula of testerone is C19H28O2.

The chemical formula of the estrogens is C18H24O2.

Thus estrogens has one less carbon rib than testerone.

Is this the scientific basis of this passage of Genesis?

Possibly. It makes sense.

Carbon compose the bones of living organisms.

Maybe God showed us how we were made in a way we could understand thousands of years ago.

And now we can understand the scientific explanation of the difference between man and woman -- the missing rib, or Adam's rib.

Was this part of Genesis just a symbolic explanation, or was it an explanation that people could understand both thousands of years ago.

Today the human race has a better understanding of science.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: bible; estrogen; genesis; testerone
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Basically if one removes one carbon rib from testerone, the resulting formula is very close to that of the family of estrogens.

Has science finally explained this part of the Bible? Possibly.

I have a saying:

Science shows us the Infinite Perfection of God just as science shows us the Finite Imperfection of the Human Race.

Clearly, God is perfect, but the mankind is able to strive for perfection to be in God's image. The human race can strive for spiritual perfection, such as the Holy People of the Bible, or for material perfection [and the lust for things of this world].

Perhaps that is one of the choices that God has given us: how we chose to strive to be perfect.

1 posted on 10/21/2010 3:25:56 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

Interesting, I’ve studied the word “rib” down to the root and it basically comes out as “curve” so for me this is merely more confirmation of there being more than meets the eye in Genesis.


2 posted on 10/21/2010 3:36:30 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35
Interesting, I’ve studied the word “rib” down to the root and it basically comes out as “curve” so for me this is merely more confirmation of there being more than meets the eye in Genesis.

Curve to the left? That's closer to the generative apparatus.
3 posted on 10/21/2010 3:39:52 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: topher
You amaze me!

Something to think about.

Keep the posts coming!

Bump!

What I know for sure is, I'll NEVER be as brilliant as God and make no effort to pretend. I accept that I have finite knowledge and He has infinite knowledge. He is beyond amazing!

How ironic it is that the atheist is as arrogant as ever with the questionable finitie knowledge they possess. As their truth “evolves” their haughtiness does too.Never mind that their previous “truth” that “evolved” is often proved to be false.

4 posted on 10/21/2010 3:49:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: topher
It's a pity ... but many people are taught that Genesis is “poetry” and not to be interpreted as anything beyond that. As we know more ... there is less excuse for such arrogant blasphemy. It truly comes down to people not acknowledge God's infinite ability and knowledge.
5 posted on 10/21/2010 3:54:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: topher
Rib bone is used for facial and other reconstructive surgery. When removed carefully from the periosteum, it will grow back.

If you were to clone yourself, the rib bone marrow would be ideal.

6 posted on 10/21/2010 3:54:55 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: topher

Adam’s rib is his DNA or sometimes called “essence”.


7 posted on 10/21/2010 3:57:43 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: topher

The real trick was getting a mirror image, none of Man’s clonings have been able to do that.


8 posted on 10/21/2010 4:00:29 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: topher
This is obviously a primitives attempt to understand aliens genetic manipulation of pre human hominids!
9 posted on 10/21/2010 4:09:43 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: topher

I guess you can make language say anything you want, but since I was a kid, I thought if you took away Adam’s rib and made a woman out of it, Adam would be the one with a missing rib. This says the woman is one rib shy.


10 posted on 10/21/2010 4:16:25 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

Exactly what I picked up on.


11 posted on 10/21/2010 4:25:45 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

As soon as I heard the word clone, I thought of Eve, but knowing God, He would have made her Adam’s exact opposite, not duplicate. :)


12 posted on 10/21/2010 4:28:08 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: topher
The " Holy People " of the bible i.e. Israel could never be perfectly holy, nor can mankind ever be holy since the fall in the eyes of a holy God.
The whole history of the Old Testament bears out the fact that mankind has failed to live up to God's standard of holiness and keeping his law.
Mankind can strive all he or she wants and will never obtain that perfect holiness or perfection of God apart from the work and the blood of Jesus Christ.
It's folly to think that man can achieve some kind of holiness that can win his way to God, for God's perfection and holiness is a gift from God that can only be given upon a new birth in Christ when someone becomes saved ( i.e. Born Again )... it's not of works, it is by grace that you are saved.
Perfect holiness and perfection is in Christ, and by the grace of Christ, for Christ is perfect holiness, for Christ is perfection.
13 posted on 10/21/2010 4:51:15 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: topher

Bookmark.


14 posted on 10/21/2010 4:51:44 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (LIBERALISM: Ideas so good, they HAVE to be mandatory!)
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To: topher
So, potatoes and needles can see because they have eyes?

Shoes can talk because they have tongues?

Tables and chairs can walk because they have legs?

You're playing (poorly) with words

15 posted on 10/21/2010 4:53:34 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: padre35
Just like Adam, the Ark that Noah built had curved ribs as it's main structure, and so to, as Adam had his side opened and closed, so to was the Ark.
Upon further review, Christ also had his side open, his curved ribs in plain view, Adam was the example of God creating a woman, and the other were 2 examples of God's salvation.
16 posted on 10/21/2010 4:58:31 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: topher

Sound’s like God was using cloning techniques.

BTW: Man gave science those terms not, God.


17 posted on 10/21/2010 5:08:12 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: topher

There are many things about what we are told regarding the formation of Adam that strike me as curious. First is the makeup/condition of Adam before the ‘curve’ was removed to make the woman.


18 posted on 10/21/2010 5:22:29 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: muir_redwoods

One has utterly missed the point, “rib” is an English translation of the Hebraic term for “rib”, the Scripture does not say “rib” it says “curve”.

(6760) Tsala to curve

(6763) tsalah lit of the body, figuratively of a door.

Trying to then shoe horn in thing such as potatoes (which did not exist in the area) or “Tongues” of shoes, both mid 16th century, if not slightly earlier words is somewhat head scratching an effort.


19 posted on 10/21/2010 5:24:02 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: topher

Interesting hypothesis. I thought both M/F have both testosterone and estrogen in different amounts, however.

I always thought the “rib” metaphor was referring to DNA in this way: You can make a human female clone of a male by removing the “Y” chromosome (23rd), and replacing it with an “X” (23rd) from another cell. The clone would then have a pair of “X” (23rd), and be female. You cannot do the opposite (make a male from a female), since females lack a “Y” (23rd) chromosome, which is why this interpretation of this metaphor is interesting to me.

Best wishes...


20 posted on 10/21/2010 5:24:41 AM PDT by Mad Federalist
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