Posted on 10/07/2010 7:04:54 AM PDT by Catholic Examiner
Greed over need. What would Jesus do?
Sorry you couldnn’t think of an intelligent reply so had to move onto condescending. Hopefully it will work out better for you in the future.
This isn't so much directed at you but at a country that has lost its mind.
I don't know what anyone else is demanding but I thought this was the United States of America. The America I grew up in provided for certain basic functions of government and police and fire protection were always seen as fundamental. I am stunned that in the 21st century we apparently have local governments that are incapable of organizing basic services, and fire protection is a basic service that is for the good of the entire community.
This is why we can't have nice things anymore, this is why the rest of the world (even as it collapses... or so we are told) is laughing at us. We Americans get the worst return for our taxes in the civilized world. It isn't so much about this one guy who may or may not be a crank, it's about the society the rest of us want to live in and I don't want my country, state, county or city to check my neighbors' records before basic services are provided.
Whose crazy idea was it that fire protection, FIRE PROTECTION! should be an optional subscription service and that local governments should or could be organized in that manner? Europeans pay insane amounts of taxes and get ridiculous amounts of government service, a lot of it complete junk. We also pay stupidly high taxes and in return we still get nickel and dimed over the most basic government services.
This is the USA for crying out loud, we should be able to outdo the rest of the world in our sleep in terms of quality and efficiency. But no, we've "advanced" to the point where the motto of our nation in public and private relations is "Screw You". Where did Reagan's Shining City on Hill go? How can we be a beacon to the world when what the rest of the world is going to get out of this story is that America can't figure out how to provide fundamental government services without checking to see if people are paid up first?
I KNEW IT!!! I was only guessing about that because I saw the metal rail foundations on tv yesterday.
No it’s not entirely different. No they don’t have a duty to intervene even if not in their jurisdiction. Cops can’t pull over people in other states that are speeding by them? They can’t pull their gun and interfere with a robbery in an official form they do it as a citizen.
They are prohibited? LOLOLOLOL! Keep reaching you are wrong. Oh by the way yes firefighters do take an oath so your weak attempt at saying cops have a duty and firefighters don’t just depends on how important they think their word is. Apparently in this case not very important.
Where is your decency?
I don’t disagree with your post I just find it sad how low the human species has fallen or is it just our basic conscience and decency has fallen so far.
The owner was wrong but the guys who sat there and watched were just lowest of the low. No logical defense can even be attempted which is obvious by these threads.
No I am stuck on how decent people would act. Has nothing to do with feelings, personal responsibility, fule of law or constractual oblications(which you don’t seem to know anyway) legal liabilities(which you also don’t know about).
Yes it’s the same thing you can try to say it’s not but so far you haven’t come up with a good reason why it’s not. You have just tried to invent things to say why. Reality doesn’t work like this.
I wonder where your decency is but then I just know what kind of people you defend and see it’s moot.
Someone in the family should have, and likely could have, prevented the fire from even reaching the Trailer.
That issue concerns me more than that he hadn’t paid the bill.
His grandson started the fire, in some barrels, that probably had waste oil or some other junk that was flammable. Could have been trash barrels. They probably don’t have trash pick up in that rural area either.
More info:
Mr. Cranick says that if fireman had just sprayed a little water on the house, the pets wouldn’t have died.
Had Mr. Cranick sprayed a little water on the burning trash barrels, his house would not have caught fire.
Even rural double wide trailers have an outside water faucet. I guess he might not have had a hose. But I am sure they had a bucket, somewhere. Maybe in the house, with the pets.
That's how science works.
Science works by inventing things to say? No actually science is discovery and verification.
The community recently voted down a property tax increase to pay for fire service. Should they be forced to pass a tax increase?
Science works by inventing things to say WHY. They call them THEORIES.
I’ve been wondering what would happen if the town itself had a fire that was too big for their dept. to handle.
Would it be reasonable for them to want/expect help from some other township? Or would the guys in the next town kick back, have a brew and some nachos, and watch it burn on the local news channel?
My initial feelings would be to say “Hell no, let the place burn!!” after the way they handled the house fire.
But then I come back to my senses and realize hey, it’s an out-of-control type situation, we all have to do what it takes to put it out.
My 2 cents, anyways...
Apparently some people aren't up to self government. Cops, courts, roads and firemen; a government that can't/won't provide basic services needs to be removed. Are there really entire counties in the United States that do not have fire protection on purpose?
A spot waiver would likely be deemed “under duress”, making it legally moot.
So now breaking the speed limit is the same as rape? LOLOL. Who's reaching now?
theories are not reality. Look it up.
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LOL, really is this how desperate you are? You tried to say cops have to do something so I gave examples and showed they don’t and this is your response? Desperation really is not a good way to try to argue if you don’t know then just don’t post.
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